Do you think Snape loved Lily Evans? What do you think of Creamteas essay?
SNAPE>LILY>JAMES: EVIDENCE FROM JKR IN HER MUGGLENET INTERVIEW:
We have JKR’s words on the matter from her Mugglenet interview:
ES: Was James the only one who had romantic feelings for Lily?
JKR: No. [Pause.] She was like Ginny, she was a popular girl.
MA: Snape?
JKR: That is a theory that's been put to me repeatedly.
ES: What about Lupin?
JKR: I can answer either one.
ES: How about both? One at a time.
JKR: I can't answer, can I, really?
ES: Can you give us any clue, without misleading us [Emerson misspoke; he meant “without giving too much away”] --?
JKR: I've never, to my knowledge, lied when posed a question about the books. To my knowledge. You can imagine, I've now been asked hundreds of questions; it's perfectly possible at some point I misspoke or I gave a misleading answer unintentionally, or I may have answered truthfully at the time and then changed my mind in a subsequent book. That makes me cagey about answering some questions in too much detail because I have to have some leeway to get there and do it my way, but never on a major plot point.
Lupin was very fond of Lily, we'll put it like that, but I wouldn't want anyone to run around thinking that he competed with James for her. She was a popular girl, and that is relevant. But I think you've seen that already. She was a bit of a catch."
First off, JKR admits point blank that there was at least one other person who had romantic feelings for Lily. It is immediately put to her that Snape had feelings for Lily - and she evades answering that, which is suspicious in itself. Then she gets hit with 'Lupin' as a suggestion and says she can't answer. She says she can't answer either for Snape or for Lupin. Why can't she? Because having REFUSED to answer for Snape because she was covering something up (which, IMO, is in effect what she did) she then can't turn around and blithely answer on Lupin (in which case I think the answer would be 'no') because it makes it glaringly obvious that she had been hiding something on Snape.
Then we have a long bit about the nature of her answers. Her final paragraph though - having had a slight pause to consider and re-direct the conversation (which presumably is why it is set out as a separate para on Mugglenet) bangs on about Lupin, but note that she does not in any way mention Snape. What I think she is doing here is steering the conversation onto Lupin/Lily and well away from Snape/Lily because on she is on safe ground with Lupin/Lily: there was no Lupin/Lily. The very fact that she is willing to talk about Lupin/Lily is what indicates that there was no Lupin/Lily, when in contrast she is not willing to discuss Snape/Lily as there, I believe, she has something to hide.
I think Snape loved Lily, realised he had put her in the firing line on Voldemort by blabbing on the Prophesy, switches sides in an effort to save her, but it is all for nothing: she dies anyway. Worse still, she dies because despite all Snape’s efforts, despite that fact that he’s risking a hideous death every day if LV catches him out, Lily dies because of (to Snape’s mind) Sirius Black and James Potter. Sirius blew the secret keeping because he chose to tell Wormtail (there is no evidence that Snape ever knew Wormy was a spy, so he couldn’t warn DD on him), hence Snape blames Sirius for Lily’s death. To an extent he also blames James too. To Snape’s mind, James was at Godric’s Hollow and failed to stop her being killed; never mind whether that’s a reasonable attitude (it isn’t), it is Snape’s attitude. From Snape’s perspective, Snape sees himself as the better wizard in comparison to James (in HBP James used Snape’s own spells against him, Snape was the better spell-man), Snape will always believe that had he been at Godric’s Hollow as Lily’s husband, and not James, then he could have put up a better fight/been smart enough to get them all out. Once again, nevermind whether Snape is reasonable to think that – we’re not talking about reason, we’re talking about love – that is Snape’s attitude.
That is why Snape has an implacable hatred against Sirius – not so much for their schoolboy days, but because he sees that Sirius killed Lily (seeing his supposed deliberate betrayal as worse than James’ mere failure). That was why he was so keen to kill Sirius/bring him back to Azkaban in PoA, in his mind he was avenging Lily.
Snape loved Lily, he never loved anyone else, and she’s dead. And part of him knows that part of it was really his fault and he has to live with that every day. He also knows that when she died, if she recalled him at all it was as someone who hated her, and now he can never have the chance to apologise and tell her how he truly felt. _________________ Education is the passport to the future, for tomorrow belongs to those who prepare for it today.
I agree with you and i think it is sort of the obvious reason. I don't know why people don't see it.
When i read that interview before I did think that she avoided answering the Snape/Lily question. She also made sre it never came up but no ever letting Snape talk about Lily and Harry not trying to find out more about alily. SHe always had Harry focused on his father. _________________ Remember, Remember, the 5th of November
It would be nice if Snape *was* in love with her wouldn't it?
We'd see him differently then.
That he was the one bullied by James Potter, the one who lost the girl of his dreams to James Potter.
Hopefully then all his years of heartache would make sense, and we'd see more of the pain he went through, that made him bitter, resentful and the beginning of this "grudge" against James/Harry. _________________ Education is the passport to the future, for tomorrow belongs to those who prepare for it today.
I believe Snape had a "thing" for her. Nothing more. Everyone had a thing for her. He can't be in love with someone he doesn't even know. He was never social and never got to know her so ho could you point Snape at love when clearly hes never gotten around to it. He never has shown a "real" care to anyone or anything. The only person i can assume hes ever had true feelings for was his mother. My evidence on this points to the title to Harry potter and the "HALF BLOOD PRINCE" _________________ Join Reality Of It All!!!
Yea but then wouldn't snape treat Harry better? Because he loved lily and james saved his life. Plus why would he tell Lv about the prophecy he heard Twearney say? He would have know it was harry or nevile _________________ Harry Vs Voldemort Who will win?
Yea but then wouldn't snape treat Harry better? Because he loved lily and james saved his life. Plus why would he tell Lv about the prophecy he heard Twearney say? He would have know it was harry or nevile
Well if he had a relationsship with Lily he would see Harry as a symbol of how it failed. Besides Harry looks like James. The first time Harry sees Snape, Snape looks into Harry's eyes. The second time he ask him a buch of question that Harry think is to taunt him. Maybe it was to see if he had a natural potion instinct like Lily. We know he doesn't have it, so Snape sees Harry as James' child. He still tries to save Harry because he is also Lily's child.
Are we sure that James saved his life. there is no telling what would have happened if he went into the shack. Harry and Hermione came across Lupin a a wolf and they survived. Snape doesn't even think anything of this. In POS he says that he didn't want Harry to walk around thinking his father was some sort of a hero.
It could be that Snape had no idea that Lily and James had a child at all. He was a death Eater, i doubt he kept in touch. They maybe kept Harry a secret because they thought people would try to harm him to get to them. Peter Pettigrew could have told Voldermort about them having a baby. _________________ Remember, Remember, the 5th of November
I think Snape felt a lot of attraction to Lily Evans.
Feeling attracted to someone, and having the courage to do something about it are 2 different things.
James went for it, and won the girl.
Snape had the secret, gut level attraction, and didn't know how to handle his feelings. He resents James for his confidence. Dumbledore tells us that James saved Snape. Imagine the guy that you hate, takes the girl you're obsessed with, and worse you owe him your life. _________________ Education is the passport to the future, for tomorrow belongs to those who prepare for it today.
That would explain why the potter's were mad at lupin. Him loving Lily and all
errr, do you mean Snape or Lupin? !! _________________ Education is the passport to the future, for tomorrow belongs to those who prepare for it today.
I'm sorry, but I can assure that Snape wasn't in love with Lily because he only liked that girl, I can't remember if she was Hufflepuff or Ravenclaw, but I believe she was a Hufflepuff, a very shy girl, that Florence.
About that nice theory of myself in love with Prongs' girlfriend, I can't say anything Feel free to imagine as much as you can.
However unlikly this maybe, it might be true, maybe lily loved snape??? Why else would she stick up to him. She was informing him on James and other's in the order. Then when LV turned up on there doorstep, she thought he was only going to kill james. But when he turned to Harry, she gave up her life to save him. Unlikely, but maybe, just maybe.
well they had a lot in common they were both gud at potions and severus snape can be rearanged into
Spoiler:
persues evans . . . her name is lily evans get my drift
_________________ and so, The Fellowship of the Phoenix set off on their journey into the heart of Voldemordor
to destroy the One Horcrux ...
'YOU SHALL NOT PASS' - Dumbledore the White
'my precious' - Kreacher
yah, i believe he did. why else would he be so sorry that he led lily and james to their deaths that he would leave his position as death eater and face the wrath of lord voldemort? snape hated james so much that it would be okay if the guy died. he isnt sorry that james died. he still insults his memory. he may be sorry that lily died, but not enough to make him leave his death eater position and, as ive said, face the wrath of Lord Voldemort. no, the only reason is because he loved lily potter. he, together with remus. man! lily must be really popular, eh? well, she's sorta like ginny weasley, jk rowling said. and i think she looks quite like ginny. maybe if harry and ginny got married it would look like lily and james getting married again. haha... _________________
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