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Harry's Scar....A Possible Horcrux?
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Sonita888
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PostPosted: January 7, 2006 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, may be you guys misunderstood what I meant. I am not saying that he will kill himself, but I do believe that he will die...
I understood nothing about all those things you said about the story... Very Happy
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PostPosted: January 7, 2006 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, but you did say when he was close to death he would let go, since his family is dead. I think Harry will fight to live until the very end and he will not die willingly (if he is to die).

What I tried to prove through the other story is that people who have gone through much more than Harry have had the opportunity to die (during fights) but chose to live instead.
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PostPosted: January 7, 2006 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, that part I got it. What was basic chinese was "I did a pretty crap job summarizing it but the main story is more than 60 episodes, 4 OVAS, and couple of Manga chapters. "
Yeah, well I guess we will have to wait for the last book, but I believe he will die like that, or soemthing like that...
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PostPosted: January 7, 2006 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sonita888 wrote:
Yes, that part I got it. What was basic chinese was "I did a pretty crap job summarizing it but the main story is more than 60 episodes, 4 OVAS, and couple of Manga chapters. "
Yeah, well I guess we will have to wait for the last book, but I believe he will die like that, or soemthing like that...


Ok, what I meant was

The main story is about 66, 30 minute episodes and Manga is like a Japanese comic book.

I don’t think it’s impossible for Harry to die but him dying willingly without putting up a fight seems very unlikely.
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PostPosted: January 7, 2006 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the guy was kind of depressed when the last book ended...
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PostPosted: January 7, 2006 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sonita888 wrote:
the guy was kind of depressed when the last book ended...


He’ll move on. It’s like a guys first wife dies but he’ll eventually move on. He’s just a kid, he’s got a whole life to get over it.
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PostPosted: January 8, 2006 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I very much doubt if Harry dies without putting up a fight. He wants Voldemort dead more than anything;his parents, Cedric, Sirius and Dumbledore are all dead because of Voldemort. He has been filled with a need for vengeance. And he isn't going to let go of his life that easily. Someone will be waiting for him:Ginny. They may have broken off the realtionship, but she will only want him and nobody else. Harry himself tells Dumbledore that he won't go down easily. In abattle he's going to take down as many of the enemy as he can.
I watch Samurai X and I perfectly understand Kenshin's philosophy.
Harry'll be alright once Voldemort is gone.
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PostPosted: January 8, 2006 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Siddhu wrote:
I very much doubt if Harry dies without putting up a fight. He wants Voldemort dead more than anything;his parents, Cedric, Sirius and Dumbledore are all dead because of Voldemort. He has been filled with a need for vengeance. And he isn't going to let go of his life that easily. Someone will be waiting for him:Ginny. They may have broken off the realtionship, but she will only want him and nobody else. Harry himself tells Dumbledore that he won't go down easily. In abattle he's going to take down as many of the enemy as he can.
I watch Samurai X and I perfectly understand Kenshin's philosophy.
Harry'll be alright once Voldemort is gone.


Yeah, I’m pretty sure he isn’t going to allow V to be the cause of his death.
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PostPosted: January 26, 2006 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of them has to die (according to the prophecy) Harry won't die because If he does then Voldie will rule the world and well that's not a good ending is it? If they both died well I would understand that (but that's not what the prophecy says). Who knows?
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PostPosted: February 20, 2006 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harry’s scare might be a horcrux but I’m not 100% sure and also I don’t think Harry will just give up on life and let Voldermort kill him.

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By the way pockets I’ve started watching Samurai X but the Japanese version like you said and it’s really cool. Kenshin is such a cool inspirational Hero I didn’t read your post about him because I don’t want to spoil the story.
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PostPosted: March 31, 2006 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont think Harry is a horcrux at all, because wasn't in the 4th and 5th book that voldemort wanted to kill harry and was going to but He escaped. so why would voldemort want to kill something that has his soul in it? it just doesnt make sence to me.
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PostPosted: April 2, 2006 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But it is Harry's scar that might be a horcrux, not Harry himself. But you are correct. It wouldnt make sense for Voldie to kill someone who had a part of his soul with him. I am a little sceptical with the whole idea of the scar being a horcrux. It makes sense because of the fact that Harry and Voldemort are connected somehow. And Harry's scar hurts whenever something important happens with V. But what you stated above also proves this theory a little off.
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PostPosted: June 14, 2006 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow its been a really long time since I've posted here. Anyways if Harry's scar is a horcrux would Voldemort be able to come out some way or would this be a moment that Voldemort not being able to possess Harry. By the way it would be good from a twist view if Harry's scar was a horcrux but I'm seriously doubting it is.

And as for Harry being a direct decendent of Godric Gryfindor I seriously doubt this how many decendents can Godric have now he lived over a thousand years ago tats alot of grandkids.
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PostPosted: June 14, 2006 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you even paied any attetion in number one HARRY'S SCAR WILL NEVER GO AWAY Dumbledore already said that alot of times. Geeze pay attetion will you. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: June 15, 2006 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome back, hengest! It's been a really long time! Good to have you back posting!
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PostPosted: June 16, 2006 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that it wouldn't be a happy ending if Harry died, but I guess the books have gotten more action and stuff in them, right? So, I guess it would be a possibility. Sad So sad!
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PostPosted: June 16, 2006 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As many times that I have seen books have a happy ending. Unfornately not all books do. Though I will hope that Harry Potter is.
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PostPosted: July 13, 2006 12:09 am    Post subject: how harrys scar became a horcrux Reply with quote

t_moz wrote:
the only problem with the "harry as a horcrux" theory is that u have to perform a very complex spell/powerful bit of dark magic when creating a horcrux so i doubt he made harry a horcrux as why wud he try to destroy a part of himself??? unless theres some special way harry became a horcrux and voldemort didnt realise as that wud kinda explain why it hurt him when he attacked him as it would take more than avada kedavra to destroy a horcrux...altho we have no total proof that the green lights harry "remembers" were from the avada kedavra spell...they could have been from making harry or an object a horcrux possibly and this would have been painful as splitting your soul cant be the easiest of things or least painful but that doesnt explain y it destroyed voldemorts body i spose...

just a few thoughts


sorry if this have been posted already

we don't know much about what happened that night whe harry was a baby. we know that LV fought and killed James, then went on to kill Lily, andher sacreifice gave Harry a "power". Then LV went on to cast a spell on harry which rebound onto himself, putting him in a lifeless form.
We also dont know much about horcruxes, other than you need to commit a murder then say an incantation. How do they work?

When Voldemort tried to kill Harry, who was protected by the magic put on him by his mother, voldy accidentally concealed part of his sou in harry, making it a Horcrux, but not anything like a traditional Horcrux

What is going to happen is harry will destroy the 6 horcruxes, then when he destroys the part remaining in voldy, voldy will not die b/c he has part of his soul in harry. harry will have to make the ultimate sacrifice so ron can kill voldy, much like when ron sacrificed himself in the 1st book in the chess match when he died bt harry was open for te checkmate
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PostPosted: July 13, 2006 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure about that. The spell Voldemort cast was the Avada Kedavra and he went there to kill the boy who would defeat him. Harry remembers a flash of green light - the only memory of that fateful night he has. And Lily did not give Harry a power. She gave him magical protection. She sacrificed herself to save Harry. So as long as he remains with her blood relatives(that would be Aunt Petunia) Voldemort cannot touch him - a fact he himself acknowledges(read book 4). But that protection only lasts till Harry turns seventeen. And perhaps you are forgetting what Dumbledore said about concealing a Horcrux in a living thing,like Nagini. Harry would have been aware of it. He also may have exhibited Vooldemort-like qualities. Apart form being a Parselmouth, he hasn't. He has never been seduced by the Dark Arts, which he despises. And one more thing. Remember what happened when Voldemort tried to possess Harry in book 6 at the Ministry? Harry thought of Sirius - he felt love - and Voldemort was forced to leave Harry's body. As Dumbledore said, Voldemort cannot possess Harry without feeling pain as Harry has vast quantities of the power Voldemort hates and does not understand, the power referred to in the Prophecy - Love. Voldemort soul can never remain intact in someone so pure-hearted and full of love.
Voldemort used the Avada Kedavra. An incantation to create a Horcrux would not have stripped him of his body. He admits it himself, that he tried to kill Harry. Not turn him into a Horcrux. Why keep a potential enemy alive? Voldemort had no idea about what was going to happen. This was routine, according to him. Unfortunately for him, he miscalculated. Dumbleodre would have found out that Harry was a Horcrux. Voldemort would not be so bent on killing Harry if he was a Horcrux. Sorry to contradict your theory on your first post, but it's easier to understand this way.
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PostPosted: July 14, 2006 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i agree with you that the curse V uses it the Avada Kedavra curse, and when i said lily gave harry a power i meant protection. you said that to make somethign a horcrux you need to say an incacntaion, which is true. but in the words of snape, the usual rules do not seem to apply to harry. im not saying harry is a traditional horcrux, but i do believe voldemort concealed the part of his soul in harry that he had inside him on that night, which was why he was reduced to a lfeless form. You also said that DD says that if you make a living thing a horcrux, the thing would know it. Harry has always known that he has an unusual connection to V. That is why they can share feelings and visions. The fact that harry is a "horcrux" (for lack of a better word) has nothing to do with harry being seduced by the dark arts or the fact that V can or cannot posess him. The love harry feels is a choice he makes, much as the hate V feels is a choice he makes.
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PostPosted: July 14, 2006 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

also

DD did not tell harry he was a horcrux because either he didnt know (much like the time when V was actually living in his school on the back of the head of one of his emplyees) or, more likely, he chose not to tel harry because, being as noble as harry is, did not want harry to destroy himself knowing there would be one less piece of V if he did.
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PostPosted: July 16, 2006 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, if Harry really is a horsecrux, of however it is spelled, he needs to commit suicide in order to kill Voldie. But if Harry dies, who will kill Voldie?? (becasue the hourcuxes avoid Voldie from dying, but in order to avoid it, he has to be killed first. That is why he was sort of a ghost when the spell bounced on him...)
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PostPosted: July 16, 2006 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sonita888 wrote:
Well, if Harry really is a horsecrux, of however it is spelled, he needs to commit suicide in order to kill Voldie. But if Harry dies, who will kill Voldie?? (becasue the hourcuxes avoid Voldie from dying, but in order to avoid it, he has to be killed first. That is why he was sort of a ghost when the spell bounced on him...)


A good point. I was thinking about this. But P4df00t said that Harry kills Voldie first, then kills himself. But then again, as he said, we don't how Horcruxes work, so how do we know if comitting suicide will destroy the Horcrux? You have to destroy the object the Horcrux is in. The Avada Kedavra doesn't destroy your body. It only takes your life away. The soul might still be in Harry's body. Now if that's the case, Voldemort might have decided to kill Harry, then use the body as a Horcrux(another trophy, like the other Horcruxes). Harry might have to stab himself(like how he destroyed the soul in Riddle's diary) but what if he stabs the wrong place? (The soul could be anywhere).And what if there;s no knife anywhere? On the other hand what if more complex spellwork is required, since Harry is not a traditional Horcrux? Like how DD got rid of Slytherin's ring. Harry is not capable of something so advanced.
Let's look at another scenario. All Harry has to do would be to use the Avada Kedavra on himself to destroy the soul. If that's the case,
then why did Voldemort try to kill Harry? Obviously he had to say the incantation first(after killing Lily) then kill the baby-he can't have made a Horcrux after the curse backfired. But if the Avada Kedavra destroys a living Horcrux, why bother making one in the first place? It makes no sense at all to keep a known and potentially dangerous enemy alive

Finally, we don't what J.K.R's going to do. She keeps making twists in the story and is being tight-lipped about details of the 7th book. So we really don't know for sure and cannot predict anything. This is only speculation.
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PostPosted: July 17, 2006 3:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Harry's Scar....A Possible Horcrux? Reply with quote

Hermione wrote:
I was reading some theories that are around in the net, and I found one that kinda made sense ( many of them do, but that doesnt mean they are real) JK once said that the Harry's scar was really important (not because of its shape) it just is important. What if is a part of Voldermort's soul got trapped in the scar thus explaning why it always hurt when Voldie was around.

So the Horcruxes are:
1.Tom Riddles Diary (Gone)
2.Locket ( Assumed Gone)
3.Ring (Gone)
4.Hufflepuff Goblet
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6.
7

Those are some pretty good albums you've got there, especially Abbey Road!


I think im missing one.... Anyways JK has said that the last word would be Scar...so its meant to play an important role I guess. What if Harry Himself is a Horcrux and he has to die in order for Voldie to die....

Please share your thoughts:)

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