because he disarmed dd, and since snape killing dumbledore did not mean he defeated him (since it was planned), malfoy was the one who truley defeated dd _________________ but perhaps those who are best suited to power are those who have never sought it. Those who have leadership thrust upon them ... and take the mantle because they must, to find to their own surprise that they wear it well
Yes, If you read the part where Harry talks to Ollivander, he mentions that Draco's wand is now Harry's due to the fact he disarmed him.
As Draco had disarmed Dumbledore before Snape killing him, Snape actually hadn't done much difference to the Elder Wand. Draco was the wand's master.
Then, as Harry disarmed Draco from his Blackthorn wand, he was the newest master of the Elder Wand, although he didn't realise until slightly later in the book. _________________ Theres Nothing More Honorable Than Sharing LILY Potters Birthday Hehe. <3
Yes, If you read the part where Harry talks to Ollivander, he mentions that Draco's wand is now Harry's due to the fact he disarmed him.
As Draco had disarmed Dumbledore before Snape killing him, Snape actually hadn't done much difference to the Elder Wand. Draco was the wand's master.
Then, as Harry disarmed Draco from his Blackthorn wand, he was the newest master of the Elder Wand, although he didn't realise until slightly later in the book.
How does that make Harry the owner of the Elder wand, though? Wouldn't that make him the owner of Draco's Blackthorn wand?
Yes, If you read the part where Harry talks to Ollivander, he mentions that Draco's wand is now Harry's due to the fact he disarmed him.
As Draco had disarmed Dumbledore before Snape killing him, Snape actually hadn't done much difference to the Elder Wand. Draco was the wand's master.
Then, as Harry disarmed Draco from his Blackthorn wand, he was the newest master of the Elder Wand, although he didn't realise until slightly later in the book.
The flaw in this newfound wand choosing a new master business is thus:
How can you practice dueling without your wand going to someone else?
After re-reading the ending more slowly (it's so exciting the first time) Harry says "The new master removed the wand from Dumbledore against his will..." causing the Elder wand to give allegiance to Draco. When practicing Expelliarmus a wizard forcefully removes the wand from another wizard. It's Harry's specialty too, right? Why are other wands not Harry's? It doesn't exactly add up like I would like it to. JK Rowling puts some mystery into this about how no one really knows how it works. Then, Harry decides he knows enough to be confident that he's the real master of the Elder wand. It's clever but not thoroughly logical. (Not that children's book have to be perfectly logical. However, I was disappointed in the ending).
Yes, If you read the part where Harry talks to Ollivander, he mentions that Draco's wand is now Harry's due to the fact he disarmed him.
As Draco had disarmed Dumbledore before Snape killing him, Snape actually hadn't done much difference to the Elder Wand. Draco was the wand's master.
Then, as Harry disarmed Draco from his Blackthorn wand, he was the newest master of the Elder Wand, although he didn't realise until slightly later in the book.
The flaw in this newfound wand choosing a new master business is thus:
How can you practice dueling without your wand going to someone else?
After re-reading the ending more slowly (it's so exciting the first time) Harry says "The new master removed the wand from Dumbledore against his will..." causing the Elder wand to give allegiance to Draco. When practicing Expelliarmus a wizard forcefully removes the wand from another wizard. It's Harry's specialty too, right? Why are other wands not Harry's? It doesn't exactly add up like I would like it to. JK Rowling puts some mystery into this about how no one really knows how it works. Then, Harry decides he knows enough to be confident that he's the real master of the Elder wand. It's clever but not thoroughly logical. (Not that children's book have to be perfectly logical. However, I was disappointed in the ending).
I believe the rule states that the original wand owner must be disarmed during battle. (Duels and expelliarmus aren’t battle). However, I still think that only entitles Harry to Draco’s Blackthorn wand.
Expelliarmus can be battle, but the wand I think would know the difference between when it was being used for a real life situation or a practice type of situation. The wands have what seems a bit of a mind of their own, and I think they know what is going on through their owners mind. So thus if they are just being used for practice, they would know. If it was a life threatening or battle/duel situation they would also know.
at the end is what i don't get, harry owns the wand and we are led to believe he is returning it to dumbledore's grave... but within the book we are taught no matter what wand you are carrying the elder wand will be yours if they are disarmed. so we have to believe that harry, being the auror that he is... will never be disarmed in his whole career?
i think, since this "war" was not hushed, anyone who knows harry would know where to find the wand and all they have to do is suceed at throwing a second year charm at him
a bit rediculious
oh and furthermore... if they kill harry and take his cloak on the way to DD's grave they may stub their toe on the 3rd hallow and be invincible.
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I expect Potter will be reunited with dear Sirius before I am reunited with Lucius
But who actually knows about the elder wand?
So few believed in the Deathly Hallows.
And even if they knew about the elder wand how would they work out who had it?
Only Death Eaters and the Order may really know.. Maybe? _________________
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It's clever but not thoroughly logical. (Not that children's book have to be perfectly logical. However, I was disappointed in the ending).
