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Posts: 657 · Posted: January 14, 2007 4:03 pm Post subject: Horcrux theories

If you want to talk about wiether or not Harry is a horcrux, take your oppinion HERE. This thread is for other horcrux theories.

First, let's look at the existing horcruxes:

1: Riddle's Diary (distroyed)
The first horcrux. This gives us a hint as to how Harry will know when he finds a horcrux. He felt that the diary was somehow important. Don't know if he'll get the feeling again.

2: Marlovo's ring (distroyed)
The second horcrux. Dumbledore took care of this one.

3: Slytherin's locket (missing)
Most everyone thinks R.A.B. is Reglius Black. Either Kreatcher or Muddigus took it, I'd think. What do you think is more likely?

4: Hufflepuff's cup
We don't know where it is, but I'll assume it's in Albania. If my memory serves, that's where Wormtail went to look for Voldemort. How did he know Voldemort was there? He was in Ron's pocket when Quirrel told them that he went to Albania to fight off evil, and when Harry explained that Voldemort possessed him.

5: Nagini
She's with Voldemort in his lair. What's his lair? The Deathly Hallows, of course. Where is it? That's the real question.

6: something of Gryffindor's or Ravenclaw's
It can't be the Sorting Hat. I don't think it's the sword (it was in the hat, after all). I think it might be a looking glass of Ravenclaw's. And what if Voldemort couldn't find anything of Ravenclaw's? How about the Goblet of Fire? Could that be a horcrux?
As for where it is. Dumstrag is a likely location. They practice the Dark Arts, so that might be where Voldemort learned how to make horcruxes.

7?: ???
Voldemort knew Harry distroyed the diary. Could he have made a new horcrux to replace the lost one?
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Did you notice that we learn of the Horcruxes in every book?

Book 1:
What: Voldemort himself
Where: Everywhere (Harry is introduced to the wizarding world)

Book 2:
What: The diary
Where: The chamber of secrets

Book 3:
What: The cup or Grif/Rav
Where: ?

Book 4:
What: Nagini
Where: Next to voldemort/Voldy's mansion

Book 5:
What: The locket (It's was on a shelf when they were cleaning)
Where: ?

Book 6:
What: Marvolo's ring
Where: Gaunts house

Book 7:
What: The cup or Grif/Rav
Where: ?

Also:

Voldemort: Is an heir of Slytherin
The diary: Showed how Vlody is the heir
The locket: Was Slytherin's
The ring: Was Marvolo's who was an heir of Slytherin
The snake: was the symbol of Slytherin
And the cup was Hufflepuff's
I think the 7th item is from Ravenclaw because Voldy'll shut out Griffindor..
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Posts: 253 · Posted: January 14, 2007 9:17 pm Post subject:

forlong when you said where Voldemort learned about horcruxes...it wasnt at durmstrang. it was at hogwarts and professor slughorn told him.
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I wonder, if there is a way for Voldy to go and find one of his horcruxes, take out his soul from it and put it back in his body?

Posts: 253 · Posted: January 15, 2007 1:07 am Post subject:

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I don't think you can either, just making sure, though.

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im not sure about the hourcruxes. all of the ideas seem good but I think J/k gave us those ideas to throw us off track of the real hourcruxes.

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Posts: 326 · Posted: January 18, 2007 2:26 pm Post subject:

The Locket- Alberfort Dumbledore has it (DD's brother). In HBP they said Fletcher was showing the barman who works in Hogs Head something. I believe it was the locket. We know it was in the house as in OP they found a heavy locket they could not open. It also fits perfectly with RAB being Regulas Black. It is also known that the barman in Hog's Head is DD brother.

The Cup- Who knows who has that. It is probably at Godric's Hollow. Just like he left the ring in old Gaunt house.

Something of Ravenclaw- I think he took something of Gryffindor.

Something of Gryffindor- I think he wanted the sword, that's why he came back to teach. But we know he didn't get that.

HBP also said that he became obsessed with his history and began looking into Magical Families. Supposed while doing this he came across the Gryffindor line. He finds out that the heir is James Potter but couldn't be bothered with it. Then he hears about the prophecy. It can be either James son or Frank Lonbottom son. The likely candidate would be the one who is the decendant of Gryffindor. So he wants harry dead. Then he comes up with a brilliant idea. Make harry a Horcrux. He likes to kill important people before he makes a Horcrux so he killed the oldest Gryffindor decendant, James then he tells lilly that she doesn't have to die but she keeps protecting Harry so he kills her. Then He makes Harry the Horcrux. That's his object from Gryffindor. And it helps him out because there is no way harry could destroy him with out killing himself.

Why i think Harry is the Heir of Gryffindor- In SS- Red and Gold sparks came out of his wand. Those are the colours of Gryffindor.

In COS- The hat was only saying slytherine because Voldy soul was in him. But it aslo gave him the sword. And DD said only a true Gryffindor could have pulled that out of the hat.

We have seen desendants of two of the houses i believe in the last one we will see the the last two.

I know this sounds farfetched but it is possible.

The Snake- Will be killed before he kills Voldy.

and when you count the Voldy and the ring that makes it seven. SO it fits perfectly. Unless the snake is not a Horcrux and there is actaully something of Ravenclaw out there.

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I agree, Nagini will be killed right before Voldy.

Posts: 657 · Posted: January 18, 2007 5:18 pm Post subject:

Sorry, toonmili. Rowling said that Harry wasn't Gryffindor's heir, so that throws your theory into the wind. I'd say it sounds a bit reasonable. But the one and only flaw: Voldemort is to much of a coward to put a piece of his soul at risk. The diary was risky enough for Voldy's taste.
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Posts: 326 · Posted: January 19, 2007 10:09 am Post subject:

I am crushed that Harry isn't the heir. It would have been so perefect. If he isn't the heir then who is??? But I'm not sure i agree with you on Voldermort being to cowardice to make Harry a Horcrux. HE always believed that Death was the worst thing and he knows that no one will dear kill Harry and he doens't believe that Harry will ever kill himself so why not.

... I'm really still upset about Harry hot being the heir of Gryffindor. I had that theory since book two, then after i read book three and DD said that was second real prediction Tralawney made I came with a wonder ful theory on what the first one was. I knew it was about Harry and Voldermort so book five really wasn't a surprise to me. But i thought it would have had more to do with the hier of Gryffindor vs. the Heir of Slytherine. It would have been so good. Now the dream is over. Crying or Very sad

Posts: 657 · Posted: January 19, 2007 5:14 pm Post subject:

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That is my guess, as well.

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^^^ I completey agree, it doesn't make sense.

Posts: 2522 · Posted: January 21, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject:

It's completely logical.

Posts: 326 · Posted: January 22, 2007 11:36 am Post subject:

I also remember Voldermort offering Harry to join him on at least one occasion. He must have thoguht that his mind was quite decided. Besides as far as we know he don't know what would become of the soul is the body dies, maybe he can recapture it. I know the concept is flawed in many ways but you should also remember that we don't have all the information on how Horcruxs are made or destroyed. But i generally still believe that Harry is a Horcrux. Untill i have solid evidence, Like JK coming out and saying otherwise I believe this theory.
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I believe that Harry has part of Voldy's soul inside him. I do not believe that Voldy meant to put it into Harry, it just happened. Now, that doesn't mean that Harry is an actual horcrux.

Posts: 2522 · Posted: January 22, 2007 5:23 pm Post subject:

^I'm with the other guy. Sorry.

Posts: 657 · Posted: January 22, 2007 5:33 pm Post subject:

Okay. I didn't expect the Harry/horcrux thoery to come up. I'll have to point out two more flaws in it that are MAJOR!

1: How would Harry not notice part of Voldemort's soul in his body? Sure, it seems for a while that it's true in "OotP"; but, judging by events in "HBP", it's impossible. Also Ginny told Harry that SHE knows what it's like to have Voldemort inside you, and he didn't. Voldemort would have taken full advantage of it by now. Who better to kill the only one Voldemort feared than his greatest enemy?

2: How would DUMBLEDORE not notice!!? I would understand him not telling Harry strait to his face that he's a horcrux, but he would have at least given Harry hints at the truth (like he did with the other horcruxes). After the way Harry reacted to Dumbledore not telling him about the prophesy, he would not hide such important information from him.
And, before you say it, there's no way I'm believing that Dumbledore doesn't know about a horcrux (except maybe a 7th). I believe Dumbledore has already looked into the possiblity that Harry, the Sorting Hat, and Gryffindor's Sword are horcruxes. Why? Because he's NOT AN IDIOT! Why are you pretending like he his.

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Well put! I agree!

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I think Dumbledore also split his soul in 2. Then he had snape kill him to fool Voldemort into thinking he is dead. Albus's Horcrux is his phoenix.
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