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why didn't voldy cast a protection charm on the diadem?

Posts: 17147 · Posted: August 9, 2007 7:17 pm Post subject:

because he was in a hurry? I think he stashed it there after his interview with DD and it would have looked weird if he'd stayed too long.
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And he thought he was the only person who knew about the Room of Requirement. I assume he thought no one else would ever find it. I D I O T

Posts: 27196 · Posted: August 12, 2007 9:27 pm Post subject:

JKR said he was arrogant. To him, the RoR itself was the protection. You needed to know where the room was and how to get in. He thought that would be enough. But look at it this way... he put all that protection around the locket Horcrux and it was gotten to twice. So it really doesn't matter, does it?
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he was not arrongent he just did not expect others would find it
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Posts: 27196 · Posted: August 12, 2007 10:35 pm Post subject:

Well, JKR actually used the word "arrogant" to describe him.
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The protections on the horcrux's was definitly uneven, this is just one of the places that you have to make an excuse for yourself (like voldemort was arrogant and figured the RoR would be enough to protect it) or just face the reality that it had to be this way to fit in with the story, with dumbldore gone there is no way they could expect to make it past another line of defenses like the one in the lake had.

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maybe it did have protection on it like the others but was destroyed by the fiendfyre one of the things that can destroy a horcrux as hermione sed it has to be put beyond magical repair
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Posts: 521 · Posted: August 22, 2007 3:19 pm Post subject:

well voldy was arrogant. he believed nobody would ever be able to destory him. he thought all the times harry defeated him was by accident, when really most of it was by pure skill and bravery on harry's side.
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He was overly confident in the protection he believed the RoR would provide.
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Posts: 549 · Joined: Aug 22, 2007 Posts: 549

If he thought he was the only one who knew the RoR thats just plain dumb , tonnes of people stashed their stuff their . But yes probably he thought it was enough , than again who would have figured he'd keep one in hogwarts where dd was to destroy it. As for defences i was kinda let down in the locket and the cup aswell . THe cup was easy even though the multiplication spell on the other things . (i liked it when hermione killed it) and the locket just made you grumpy Smile

(and when you opened it , it made you even more grumpy)
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I believe that the diadem did not have a protection charm for two reasons.

1. Voldemort wanted a horcrux in Hogwarts, but was in a hurry. It would not be wise to keep DD waiting too long. If he somehow got the teaching position he would had time to further hide it.

2. Also, casting a protection charm around one object in that whole room could easily have the opposite effect. Remeber when DD went to the cave that night he knew it was the right spot because he felt the ancient, dark magic. If DD somehow figured out the diadem was in Hogwarts or in the RoR the protection charm would draw suspicion to whatever item it was hiding. By not casting such a charm, which could be surpassed, it kept the diadem hidden and it looked just another useless piece of junk.

Of all the horcurxes I think this one was one of the best. In terms or difficulty to find/destroy here is my list.

1. The Cave: The protection for the cave was absolutely ridiculous. Plus, one would have to really dig around Riddle's past. By far the best protected one.

2. Nagini: DD says that it is very, very rare for a person to make a horcurx out of an animal, and it took the shrewd and calculating mind of DD to realize this horcrux. Also, the snake is rather strong itself and the only reason it was not in its powerful bubble charm was that Voldemort thought HP was dead. It would have been very tough to get to.

3. Diadem: Again, some person would have to know all about Voldemort's desire for horcruxes, where to look in Hogwarts, and what to look for. No one had ever known the Diadem had been found.

Now it gets easier to find them.

4. The Cup: It was placed in the vault of Bellatrix so it was rather well guarded. Also, if you remember in the vision we saw no one knew that the old woman had the Cup. One of the hardest things was to discover what objects were the horcuxes. However, since Bellatrix is a known fellon her vault may have been opened under investigation, and the dark magic upon the cup may have been discovered.

5. Ring: One would have to dig deep into Voldemort's past to find the old shack and no one was keen to do that. However, everyone knew his name was Riddle and might have been able to trace his ancestors. Unlike the cave, which was a random spot from his childhood, the shack was the home of this mother and more obvious.

6. Harry: Once DD began investigating VOldemort's past and realized that his theory of horcurxes was viable, it seems he quickly realized that Harry's connection to Voldemort was due to the fusion of a piece of his soul. As we find out DD had known this and was preparing Harry all this time.

7. The Diary: It was left to the Malfoy's and was not explained so who knows what Lucious would have done with it. Maybe because it was the first one destroyed I am predisposed to thinking it was the weakest.

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If you think about it, the RoR of requirements becomes whatever the person wants it to become and Voldy wanted it to be a place for him to hide the diadem. So he pobably wouldnt of questioned the other stuff in there and just assumed that it was there to help hide the diadem, not that other people had used it as a hiing place.

Also it isnt really that unlikely that Voldy would have gone there last as it was huen in Hogwarts and for Harry to even get ito the castle he would have to get past loads of Deah Eaters, and this would have been imossible, had it not been for Alberforth and the scret passageway which Voldy obviously didnt know about.

IF Harry had managed to get into the castle, he would have to find the place where the diadem was hidden (Voldy thought he alone knew where the RoR was)

After finding the Diadem Harry woud then have to destroy it which would of been dificult if Crabbe/ Goyle (sorry forgot which one) hadnt usd the special type of fire.

So i think it wasnt actaully that badly protected
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Posts: 17948 · Posted: April 7, 2008 9:57 am Post subject:

ok, that could be it, but do u remember if anyone in book 7 said something like that?

also, how come he didnt know how dangerous it was if all his death eaters entered hogwarts through that room in book 6? Confused

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mmm could be, but its still weird Confused

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I think that Voldemort knew all of these things. I just think that he underestimated the intelligence of others. Honestly, what are the odds that a person would guess not only that the diadem was a horcrux but also that it was hidden in a room that was not only rarely found but found on accident for the majority of those rare occassions by students who usually couldn't figure out out how to get back into the room.
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