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PostPosted: June 29, 2007 9:44 am    Post subject: HP Reply with quote

has anyone else noticed that as the series goes on the writting changes - eg the beginning of Philosopher starts as any children's book would etc
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PostPosted: June 29, 2007 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think it's because the books become more and more dark and violent as the series went on...JK may have intended for the entire series to be for the younger generations but instead it has grown into an older age group


i got lucky...when the books came out i was generally the same age as harry/ron/hermione so i have been able to grow up with them...so now when i get older instead of them being just books i read...i can tell my kids i grew up with the books
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PostPosted: June 29, 2007 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes i realized that. books 1 and 2 are quite kiddie. book 3 gets less kiddie, but still fine. books 4, 5, and 6 are so not kiddie anymore, with the endings resulting in deaths.
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PostPosted: June 30, 2007 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, because the children target audience in books 1 and 2 were growing up, so her biggest fan base would outgrow the books, so she decided to adapt the books towards her biggest fan base.
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PostPosted: June 30, 2007 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^That makes the most sense in my opinion.
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PostPosted: July 1, 2007 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no i dont think so. i think it has to do with the fact that harry is growing up, so she had to make him more matured and less kiddie... i mean, ive never seen a 16 year old who had no crushes...
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PostPosted: July 1, 2007 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet you could easily find one though...
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PostPosted: July 1, 2007 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it is a combination of many factors but I'd also like to add in that Jo's writing skill has probably "changed" or even "improved" over the years. Saying improved is an opinion obviously, so that's why I say it changed.

I've been writing for a couple years now and my skills have gotten better in my opinion and they have definitely changed and your ideas change.

As an aspiring author, I know how quickly your ideas can change once you start writing and how they alter once you are in the middle of your story.
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PostPosted: July 1, 2007 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It could also be that the 'base readers' are growing up as well.......
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PostPosted: July 1, 2007 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RiddleisOurKing wrote:
I think it is a combination of many factors but I'd also like to add in that Jo's writing skill has probably "changed" or even "improved" over the years. Saying improved is an opinion obviously, so that's why I say it changed.

I've been writing for a couple years now and my skills have gotten better in my opinion and they have definitely changed and your ideas change.

As an aspiring author, I know how quickly your ideas can change once you start writing and how they alter once you are in the middle of your story.


I know exactly what you mean.
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PostPosted: July 2, 2007 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HRH2013 wrote:
RiddleisOurKing wrote:
I think it is a combination of many factors but I'd also like to add in that Jo's writing skill has probably "changed" or even "improved" over the years. Saying improved is an opinion obviously, so that's why I say it changed.

I've been writing for a couple years now and my skills have gotten better in my opinion and they have definitely changed and your ideas change.

As an aspiring author, I know how quickly your ideas can change once you start writing and how they alter once you are in the middle of your story.


I know exactly what you mean.


Same here, but I think it's a mix of both ideas...the characters/readers have grown up and JKR's writing style most likely has shifted over the years.
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PostPosted: July 10, 2007 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HRH2013 wrote:
I bet you could easily find one though...


Yeah like me. I'm 18 and I still haven't had a crush yet ( well I am sort of generally a misanthrope so I don't really think it counts). Very Happy
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PostPosted: July 10, 2007 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RomeoyJulieta wrote:
It could also be that the 'base readers' are growing up as well.......


that is what i think too.
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PostPosted: August 10, 2009 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^Milky Way^^ wrote:
RomeoyJulieta wrote:
It could also be that the 'base readers' are growing up as well.......


that is what i think too.
Me too
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PostPosted: February 7, 2010 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I realized this. I think it's because they get more violent and darknatured as the series progresses.
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PostPosted: February 8, 2010 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

me and boyfriend had a conversation about that. He was re reading the books from the beginning whilst I was re reading the sixth book before the film was released and we couldn't believe how much the writing style changed.

underyourcurse - i totally agree, the plot changes in the series could not have applied to a series of books for just children.

I think that as interest in Harry Potter grew from just children to adults aswell JKR realised that she had a new readership to cater for aswell.

Also the characters in the book start their first year as eleven year olds so the writing style is very simple, to create the world of an eleven year old Harry Potter but as the characters grow older and become more advanced knowledge wise so does the writing style and themes of the book.
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PostPosted: February 8, 2010 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are two reasons for the progressing:
1: you can't find a "kid's book" about a 16 year old without it being unrealistic

2: J.K.R. originally thought of book 6 when she started writing, but needed to adapt it for her children, to the "introduction" turned out to be books 1-5, gradually becoming darker and more mature
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PostPosted: February 9, 2010 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think It's meant to convey that the stories are getting more and more darker, and that Voldemort is getting closer and closer to taking over. The first two books are really just adventures at Hogwarts with a happy ending, book three goes a bit darker with a murder story, Goblet Of Fire features the return of Voldemort and it's when the stories ultimately become more sophisticated. OOTP is about preparing to battle Voldemort and it's also very dark at how Harry begins to doubt himself, Half Blood Prince is the final setup, and has a tension throughout the book. Deathly Hallows brings everything together and ends the darkness so now we're just back to adventures at Hogwarts.
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PostPosted: September 2, 2010 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yah ! Thats very true . Its target i9n the 1st and second are kids of that ages .
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