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PostPosted: July 30, 2007 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sounds about right. Dumped for the crazy snake-guy. Poor fella.
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PostPosted: July 30, 2007 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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haha! she'd be breastfeeding venom!!! Laughing

They were talking about Bella not Nagini Shocked . *is creeped*
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PostPosted: July 30, 2007 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, JKR answered this question...
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Bella only married Rodolphus for pure-blood status purposes. Her true love was Voldemort, but he did not love her.


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PostPosted: July 31, 2007 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

she likes him,
he doesn't like her.
end of story.
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PostPosted: July 31, 2007 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think she is kind of very sorta obsessed with voldemort she might even have a secret crush on him
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PostPosted: August 1, 2007 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well allow me to say that Voldemort even though he is gross, is still a man and would have needs of a man.

That being said. Voldemort is also a charmer: He charmed, The Gray Lady, H. Smith woman with the cup and young Ginny.

And from JK's interview it was said that he murdered a Tramp to make one his Horcruxes, what use would he have for a Tramp? Hmmm.. Her words not mine. So now that we have established that he capable of the most basic of human activites lets examine what he says about Snape.

When Harry tells him Snape loved his mother Voldy says: He desired her, that's all. Okay Voldemort doesn't understand love but he understands desire. What do you think he thought Snape wanted to do with Lily. HMmm. AS from that sentance I got the feeling that they take the spoils. He had some idea that he could let Snape have Lily. Eh? So the idea of matromony means nothing to him.

Now enter Bella, who is in love with Voldy and not her husband. As I have shown before Voldemort has regular male needs so... who better than a pure blood seductress. I'm sure he was quite happy to think that he could get a woman form such an important family. Raldolphus means nothing, he is Voldy's servant and Voldy could dispose of him whenever he sees fit.

Be very certain that I am not saying that Voldy loved Bella. No, the whole point is that he cannot love. But like he liked Snape for his usefulness, he liked Bella for his usefullness.

And she just happens to be usefull in more that one way.
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PostPosted: August 1, 2007 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well allow me to say that Voldemort even though he is gross, is still a man and would have needs of a man.

That being said. Voldemort is also a charmer: He charmed, The Gray Lady, H. Smith woman with the cup and young Ginny.

And from JK's interview it was said that he murdered a Tramp to make one his Horcruxes, what use would he have for a Tramp? Hmmm.. Her words not mine. So now that we have established that he capable of the most basic of human activites lets examine what he says about Snape.

When Harry tells him Snape loved his mother Voldy says: He desired her, that's all. Okay Voldemort doesn't understand love but he understands desire. What do you think he thought Snape wanted to do with Lily. HMmm. AS from that sentance I got the feeling that they take the spoils. He had some idea that he could let Snape have Lily. Eh? So the idea of matromony means nothing to him.

Now enter Bella, who is in love with Voldy and not her husband. As I have shown before Voldemort has regular male needs so... who better than a pure blood seductress. I'm sure he was quite happy to think that he could get a woman form such an important family. Raldolphus means nothing, he is Voldy's servant and Voldy could dispose of him whenever he sees fit.

Be very certain that I am not saying that Voldy loved Bella. No, the whole point is that he cannot love. But like he liked Snape for his usefulness, he liked Bella for his usefullness.

And she just happens to be usefull in more that one way.


Are you saying they had sex? Ew!!!!! Snake-boy and Crazy-lady!!! EW! Sick

Well, as he made himself into Horcruxes and fell deeper and deeper into the dark arts he began to loose some of his humaness and took on a more snake-like form.
I wonder how less human and more snakelike he became... that's all I'm saying.
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PostPosted: August 1, 2007 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As gross as it sounds I have to say yes...

Why was he calling her Bella. He didn't Snape - Sev, Of Narcissa- Cissy.

It is heavily implied
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PostPosted: August 1, 2007 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lotsa people call her Bella...it's just that it became such a great nickname that Voldy used it for her too!
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PostPosted: August 1, 2007 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh come on guys, you can't ignore the evidence. He is not capable of love but he is still Male... even male snakes have those instincts.
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PostPosted: August 1, 2007 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think they do, actually. I don't know much about snakes, though. Do snakes have those urges?


Besides, not all men are interested in just sex... right guys? Right? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: August 1, 2007 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well yes, obviously they mate or else there would be no snakes in the world.
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PostPosted: August 1, 2007 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well yes, obviously they mate or else there would be no snakes in the world.


But with each other? Don't they just lay eggs? There is no intercourse in that.
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PostPosted: August 1, 2007 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GinnyX wrote:
toonmili wrote:
Well yes, obviously they mate or else there would be no snakes in the world.


But with each other? Don't they just lay eggs? There is no intercourse in that.

You gotta have intercourse to have eggs (unless you're a few lizards, a flower pot snake or a whole bunch of bugs). In order to have eggs develop (which takes about two months) intercourse has to happen. It's kind of like us. They can't suddenly have babies...there's a time for mating and a time for having the young.

BTW, not all snakes lay eggs. About 30 % of snake species give birth to fully developed live young...good examples are adders, ALL rattlesnakes, anacondas, other boas, a few relatives of cobras. Eggs or live young happen depending on the enviornment. *is a snake nerd*

Back on topic, wouldn't it be funny for Voldy to be caught having a fuzzy moment with someone (like Nagini). Voldy's reaction? "OBLIVIATE!!!" Laughing . http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/17352452/ <----Kinda like this
And that is why Dumbledor says that Voldemort does not love...because he got his memory wiped of him being all lovey on someone rofl!


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PostPosted: August 1, 2007 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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toonmili wrote:
Well yes, obviously they mate or else there would be no snakes in the world.


But with each other? Don't they just lay eggs? There is no intercourse in that.

You gotta have intercourse to have eggs (unless you're a few lizards, a flower pot snake or a whole bunch of bugs). In order to have eggs develop (which takes about two months) intercourse has to happen. It's kind of like us. They can't suddenly have babies...there's a time for mating and a time for having the young.

BTW, not all snakes lay eggs. About 30 % of snake species give birth to fully developed live young...good examples are adders, ALL rattlesnakes, anacondas, other boas, a few relatives of cobras. Eggs or live young happen depending on the enviornment. *is a snake nerd*

Back on topic, wouldn't it be funny for Voldy to be caught having a fuzzy moment with someone (like Nagini). Voldy's reaction? "OBLIVIATE!!!" Laughing . http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/17352452/ <----Kinda like this
And that is why Dumbledor says that Voldemort does not love...because he got his memory wiped of him being all lovey on someone rofl!



First of all, that picture was great! lmao


Second, what I mean is, most reptiles don't have sex like we do. Er... I mean humans. Not us, specifically. Usually the female comes over and lays the egg, then the boy-snake comes over and fertilizes it. Then he goes and drinks beer with his buddies while wifey sits at home with the egg under her bum until it hateches. Now, I don't know about all snakes, because... well, I think they're icky. But if someone else knows then feel free to fill me in.

But until then, I maintain that boy snakes don't have the same urges as human boys. It's a reptile vs. mammal thing. Again, I could be wrong, but I just assumed that animals that laid eggs didn't have sex.
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PostPosted: August 1, 2007 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, they DO mate like we do. Like I said, most snakes are born live and fully developed. Male snakes DO have errrr..."guy parts" (errr...two actually Shocked ). Fertilization happens inside the female's body, like in mammals. Eggs or babies form inside the womb after fertilization. Now, Fertilization OUTSIDE the body...that's A LOT fish and amphibians. Not all, but a lot. ALL REPTILES have internal fertilization...by...sex....Oh, and, snakes mostly lay A LOT of eggs...a full grown giant python can lay up to 100 (probobly 8 when she was young). There was a Death Adder reported to have given birth to 151 young! I feel REALLY sorry for her Laughing . And, in a lot of snakes, males and females normally come together in the mating season and that's it! They polygamous. A few King cobras are an exception, since some have mated for life.

Then, boy snakes do have urges. They have interesting ways to get the female to make babies with him. Crawling on her back, rubbing her, (rubs her spurs with his if he's a python or boa), tickling her, until she 'let's him in'. But only the biggest and strongest ones in an area mate with the females, since males fight to determine mating rights and dominance.

ALSO, mostly pythons and King Cobras gaurd their eggs by wrapping around them (K. Cobras even make NESTS like birds do!). They are the only ones that do it. Others abandon their eggs after they are laid (before you ask, I'd like to say the eggs are hidden in a warm place). Snakes also abandon their young after they are born or hatched. There is no care; they are independant from the start and are ready to make at about...2 to 5 years old. BUT, the K. Cobra might care for their young for 2 weeks! *snakenerd snakenerd snakenerd*

Can we get back on topic and start a topic about this someplace else? I don't want to get too snakenerdy on a HP topic Rolling Eyes .

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PostPosted: August 1, 2007 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure that Voldy has a male reproductive organ of some sort, what Bella does with it is her business.

I know it seems gross but this is Voldy we are talking about. It's not like they having long candle lit dinners but I think there are some ANVIL size clues that there is something going on there.

And again I ask. What use would Voldy have a tramp (Jk's word not mine)? If not to...

So he can do it.

So if Bella clearly is all over him and he has the tools... Why not.


he doesn't have to be in love with her. I don't imagine that he was in love with that H.Smith woman but he managed to chram her all the same.

I don't Bella notice that Voldypoo has a face for radio.
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PostPosted: August 1, 2007 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Male snakes DO have errrr..."guy parts" (errr...two actually


Whoa Shocked hmmm.... I wonder.... nah, nevermind.


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Crawling on her back, rubbing her


I just got a horrific image of Voldy and Bella... *vomits a little*


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I don't want to get too snakenerdy


Too late!!!

Awww *hugs*

Thanks for this, it was really informative... especially about the umm... two male parts... Embarassed lol

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I was just discussing that elsewhere! We were wondering what, if any, reason Tom Riddle had for using the tramp as one of the deaths.
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PostPosted: August 1, 2007 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

She wasn't a wizard... so if he did anything with her he would want to erase the memory of her. But Bella is pureblood and wealthy and from a famous family. he will keep her around.
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I don't think Bellatrix would be capable of love either though. Her actions and things she says show Psychopathic tendencies. So therefore I feel she only "loved" or was attracted to the power and fear Voldemort had. A Psychopath or even just Sociopath would find that attractive. It would be what she would want for herself and because there was no way she was going to be able to overpower Voldy she decided to try and latch on to him in order to share in his power and fear.

That's my opinion of her anyway.
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PostPosted: August 2, 2007 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't think Bellatrix would be capable of love either though. Her actions and things she says show Psychopathic tendencies. So therefore I feel she only "loved" or was attracted to the power and fear Voldemort had. A Psychopath or even just Sociopath would find that attractive. It would be what she would want for herself and because there was no way she was going to be able to overpower Voldy she decided to try and latch on to him in order to share in his power and fear.

That's my opinion of her anyway.


I don't like to use JK's statements as canon but JK said that she only married Raldolfus because that was what was expected of her but she is really in love with Voldy... I know it is sick. We are throwing up.
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Damologist wrote:
I don't think Bellatrix would be capable of love either though. Her actions and things she says show Psychopathic tendencies. So therefore I feel she only "loved" or was attracted to the power and fear Voldemort had. A Psychopath or even just Sociopath would find that attractive. It would be what she would want for herself and because there was no way she was going to be able to overpower Voldy she decided to try and latch on to him in order to share in his power and fear.

That's my opinion of her anyway.


I don't like to use JK's statements as canon but JK said that she only married Raldolfus because that was what was expected of her but she is really in love with Voldy... I know it is sick. We are throwing up.


Oh ok. I haven't read that statement. That is pretty wrong. Imagine the kids they could of had. Snake-Babies... Nagani could of been the Godmother... lol
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PostPosted: August 2, 2007 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOAH! Nagini as a godmother!? THAT'S scary Shocked !

I had an interesting idea yesterday that could go into my story.
Tom Riddle just found out he was a wizard...(he was speaking in parselmouth with Nagini). He met a new girl at the orphanage, a witch, Kira, whose parents were killed by some kind of calamaty. They become close friends (OI! Lookatthat!) and they both become Slytherins at Hogwarts.

However, during the summer of their third year, one of the (extreamly drunk) caretakers gets REALLY mad at Kira and beats her to death...resulting in Tom using 'avada kedavra' for the first time. He didn't care about getting in trouble with the ministry because his near-girlfriend had just died.

Not wanting any symphathy, he erased the memory of his relationship with Kira from the teachers, the people at the orphanage, and his cronies. Only Nagini remembered (He's gotta talk with someone about it). Other things made him fall apart but Kira's death made him crack. Poor Tom Sad . As LV, he occasionally talks with Nagini about her, but hides the thought of her from everyone else. He won't let Bellatrix go all mushy on him (mushy XD) because Kira was not all mushy on him ( Laughing ) and he was still torn by her loss (that's a long time to be upset Shocked ).

Just my ideas of why he's necrophobic, what would happen if he did love, and the first time he used avada kedavra.

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