im part of this other hp forums. the mods there posted a thread on the invisibility cloak and the mirror of erised. my answers are in caps
In this chapter, Harry receives the infamous Invisibility Cloak accompanied by this note:
Your father left this in my possession before he died. It is time it was returned to you. Use it well.
A Very Merry Christmas to you.
JKR already drew attention to this, saying that it is crucial to know why the Cloak was in Dumbledore's possession, considering he didn't need it. He said it himself later on in the chapter:
"I don't need a cloak to become invisible," said Dumbledore gently
SO DD CAN BECOME INVISIBLE WHEN HE WANTS TO? THAT’S THE MOST I CAN GLEAN FROM IT. I DUNNO IF THAT’S GONNA BE CONSEQUENTIAL THOUGH. BUT I THINK THE MORE PRESSING QUESTION IS WHY DD KNEW THAT HARRY WAS VISITING THE MIRROR. HARRY ASKED HIM “HOW DID YOU KNOW – “. DD ANSWERED HIM WITH “I DON’T NEED A CLOAK TO BECOME INVISIBLE. WELL I DUNNO WHAT HARRY WAS GONNA ASK, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME AS THOUGH DD’S ANSWER DID NOT ANSWER HARRY’S QUESTION. HOW DID HE KNW RON SAW HIMSELF AS HEAD BOY? HOW DID HE KNOW HARRY WAS THERE? THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE WANT ANSWERED. PERHAPS DD WAS INSIDE THE MIRROR (SOUNDS STUPID), THAT’S WHY HE WAS INVISIBLE TO HARRY, I DUNNO.
AS TO WHY IT WAS IN DD’S POSSESSION, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT. I FOUND THIS IN WIKIPEDIA: JKR SAID THAT SNAPE WAS NOT UNDER THE CLOAK IN GODRIC’S HOLLOW THE NIGHT THE POTTERS WERE MURDERED. SO WHY DOES DD HAVE IT? PERHAPS HE WENT TO GODRIC’S HOLLOW AND FOUND THE CLOAK AND GOT IT.
BUT THAT’S STUPID. WHY WOULD HE LEAVE HARRY THERE FOR HAGRID TO GET? HE MIGHT AS WELL HAVE GOTTEN THE SCREAMING BABY WITH THE SCAR ON HIS HEAD. SO I HIGHLY DOUBT THAT DD WENT TO GODRIC’S HOLLOW. AND BESIDES, OF ALL THINGS TO GET, WHY THE CLOAK? AND FURTHERMORE, HE SAID THAT JAMES LEFT IT IN HIS POSSESSION. SO HE DID NOT GET IT. IT WAS GIVEN TO HIM. SO THE QUESTION IS, WHY DID JAMES LEAVE IT TO HIM?
Any theories?
This is also the chapter where Harry first sees the Mirror of Erised. On the second night he sneaks out to look at the Mirror, he brings Ron along. And on the third night, Harry runs into Dumbledore, who has been observing him for three nights now. Really fantastic, that Dumbledore. How does he know Harry is going to the room with the Mirror? I know he doesn't need it, but wouldn't it be funny to see Dumbledore poring over a Marauders' Map?
The Mirror will be moved to a new home tomorrow, Harry, and I ask you not to go looking for it again. If you ever do run across it, you will now be prepared.
Why does it sound like Dumbledore almost is preparing Harry to use the Mirror?
So where is that Mirror now? Will we see it again?
wow... this is gonna be so useless if no one posts here...
hey, ive got a bit of something about what dumbledore saw in the mirror of erised.
socks sort of symbolize freedom. and true enough, what was once a smelly old sock turned out to be dobby's ticket to freedom.
so might dumbledore be wanting to see himself free, free from all the weighty responsibilities? after all, he is a very simple man who is content with lemon drops. _________________
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wow... this is gonna be so useless if no one posts here...
hey, ive got a bit of something about what dumbledore saw in the mirror of erised.
socks sort of symbolize freedom. and true enough, what was once a smelly old sock turned out to be dobby's ticket to freedom.
so might dumbledore be wanting to see himself free, free from all the weighty responsibilities? after all, he is a very simple man who is content with lemon drops.
i like that... it is a nice idea.... good work _________________ and so, The Fellowship of the Phoenix set off on their journey into the heart of Voldemordor
to destroy the One Horcrux ...
'YOU SHALL NOT PASS' - Dumbledore the White
'my precious' - Kreacher
Maybe I'm stupid but this bugs me. When Harry receives the cloak the letter with it is anonymous. So I'm trying to remember when Dumbledore said the cloak came from him. _________________ Name: Arwen Black
House: Gryffindor
Patronus: Snowy Owl
Wand: Phoenix Feather, Redwood 8 3/4 inch
Blood: Pure
dumbledore said so in the chapter "the man with two faces", in the part when he visits harry in the hospital wing. _________________
I love my handsome Erik
im part of this other hp forums. the mods there posted a thread on the invisibility cloak and the mirror of erised. my answers are in caps
In this chapter, Harry receives the infamous Invisibility Cloak accompanied by this note:
Your father left this in my possession before he died. It is time it was returned to you. Use it well.
A Very Merry Christmas to you.
JKR already drew attention to this, saying that it is crucial to know why the Cloak was in Dumbledore's possession, considering he didn't need it. He said it himself later on in the chapter:
"I don't need a cloak to become invisible," said Dumbledore gently
SO DD CAN BECOME INVISIBLE WHEN HE WANTS TO? THAT’S THE MOST I CAN GLEAN FROM IT. I DUNNO IF THAT’S GONNA BE CONSEQUENTIAL THOUGH. BUT I THINK THE MORE PRESSING QUESTION IS WHY DD KNEW THAT HARRY WAS VISITING THE MIRROR. HARRY ASKED HIM “HOW DID YOU KNOW – “. DD ANSWERED HIM WITH “I DON’T NEED A CLOAK TO BECOME INVISIBLE. WELL I DUNNO WHAT HARRY WAS GONNA ASK, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME AS THOUGH DD’S ANSWER DID NOT ANSWER HARRY’S QUESTION. HOW DID HE KNW RON SAW HIMSELF AS HEAD BOY? HOW DID HE KNOW HARRY WAS THERE? THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE WANT ANSWERED. PERHAPS DD WAS INSIDE THE MIRROR (SOUNDS STUPID), THAT’S WHY HE WAS INVISIBLE TO HARRY, I DUNNO.
AS TO WHY IT WAS IN DD’S POSSESSION, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT. I FOUND THIS IN WIKIPEDIA: JKR SAID THAT SNAPE WAS NOT UNDER THE CLOAK IN GODRIC’S HOLLOW THE NIGHT THE POTTERS WERE MURDERED. SO WHY DOES DD HAVE IT? PERHAPS HE WENT TO GODRIC’S HOLLOW AND FOUND THE CLOAK AND GOT IT.
BUT THAT’S STUPID. WHY WOULD HE LEAVE HARRY THERE FOR HAGRID TO GET? HE MIGHT AS WELL HAVE GOTTEN THE SCREAMING BABY WITH THE SCAR ON HIS HEAD. SO I HIGHLY DOUBT THAT DD WENT TO GODRIC’S HOLLOW. AND BESIDES, OF ALL THINGS TO GET, WHY THE CLOAK?
Any theories?
This is also the chapter where Harry first sees the Mirror of Erised. On the second night he sneaks out to look at the Mirror, he brings Ron along. And on the third night, Harry runs into Dumbledore, who has been observing him for three nights now. Really fantastic, that Dumbledore. How does he know Harry is going to the room with the Mirror? I know he doesn't need it, but wouldn't it be funny to see Dumbledore poring over a Marauders' Map?
The Mirror will be moved to a new home tomorrow, Harry, and I ask you not to go looking for it again. If you ever do run across it, you will now be prepared.
Why does it sound like Dumbledore almost is preparing Harry to use the Mirror?
So where is that Mirror now? Will we see it again?
yes, i think it meant that he can become invisable whenever he wants to.
he would've known that ron could see himself becoming head boy because ron was talking about it when he was looking at himself (he said "i'm head boy.. i'm quidditch captain, too!" that's how harry figured out, so i think thats how dumbledore figured out. i might be wrong, though. he is the most powerful wizard, so, he could find his ways.
the cloak was in dumbledore's possession because james gave it to him before he died. maybe he found no use for it anymore, so he gave it to dumbledore.
dumbledore said he trusts hagrid with his life, so i'm sure that dumbledore made hagrid get harry because he trusted him. why dumbledore didn't get him, i'm not sure.
i already answered why james would give dumbledore the cloak, because he found no use for it and gave it to someone he could trust, who was dumbledore.
dumbledore is the most powerful wizard known to modern time, i'm sure he can figure out where harry is and come and watch him while he's invisable.
for harry being prepared, i think he meant that it would be where quirrel/voldemort was, and dumbledore knew that harry would try to stop quirrel (but at the beginning, harry thought he'd be stopping snape), and he meant that he was prepared to fight voldemort in that battle they had at the end.
the mirror.. hm, that's a hard question to answer. it wasn't broken or anything, so i'm sure it could be reused.. but, that's debateable. nah, i don't think we'll see it in the future, unless there's a twist in the last book.
i hope that answers your questions, and i hope most of them are answered correctly. _________________ www.theboywholivedd.piczo.com
name: mona
house: gryffindor
wand: 11" cedar, phoenix feather
wow... this is gonna be so useless if no one posts here...
hey, ive got a bit of something about what dumbledore saw in the mirror of erised.
socks sort of symbolize freedom. and true enough, what was once a smelly old sock turned out to be dobby's ticket to freedom.
so might dumbledore be wanting to see himself free, free from all the weighty responsibilities? after all, he is a very simple man who is content with lemon drops.
that is so clever!
i never thought of that.
that's a really interesting theory.
you're probably right! _________________ www.theboywholivedd.piczo.com
name: mona
house: gryffindor
wand: 11" cedar, phoenix feather
I think in book 7 that dumbledore did not see socks in the mirror that he was covering up for what he really saw.....i got the impression somewhere in the book that dumbledore may have seen his family in there much the same as harry did. Nice theory about the socks tho i never made that connection.
I think in book 7 that dumbledore did not see socks in the mirror that he was covering up for what he really saw.....i got the impression somewhere in the book that dumbledore may have seen his family in there much the same as harry did. Nice theory about the socks tho i never made that connection.
Spoiler:
yes dumbledore most liekly saw at least ariana alive because he felt guilty. and dd got the cloak because he was examing it because it was one of the hollows and he was curious after all those years!
"I don't need a cloak to become invisible," said Dumbledore gently
SO DD CAN BECOME INVISIBLE WHEN HE WANTS TO? THAT’S THE MOST I CAN GLEAN FROM IT. I DUNNO IF THAT’S GONNA BE CONSEQUENTIAL THOUGH. BUT I THINK THE MORE PRESSING QUESTION IS WHY DD KNEW THAT HARRY WAS VISITING THE MIRROR. HARRY ASKED HIM “HOW DID YOU KNOW – “. DD ANSWERED HIM WITH “I DON’T NEED A CLOAK TO BECOME INVISIBLE. WELL I DUNNO WHAT HARRY WAS GONNA ASK, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME AS THOUGH DD’S ANSWER DID NOT ANSWER HARRY’S QUESTION. HOW DID HE KNW RON SAW HIMSELF AS HEAD BOY? HOW DID HE KNOW HARRY WAS THERE? THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE WANT ANSWERED. PERHAPS DD WAS INSIDE THE MIRROR (SOUNDS STUPID), THAT’S WHY HE WAS INVISIBLE TO HARRY, I DUNNO.
AS TO WHY IT WAS IN DD’S POSSESSION, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT. I FOUND THIS IN WIKIPEDIA: JKR SAID THAT SNAPE WAS NOT UNDER THE CLOAK IN GODRIC’S HOLLOW THE NIGHT THE POTTERS WERE MURDERED. SO WHY DOES DD HAVE IT? PERHAPS HE WENT TO GODRIC’S HOLLOW AND FOUND THE CLOAK AND GOT IT.
BUT THAT’S STUPID. WHY WOULD HE LEAVE HARRY THERE FOR HAGRID TO GET? HE MIGHT AS WELL HAVE GOTTEN THE SCREAMING BABY WITH THE SCAR ON HIS HEAD. SO I HIGHLY DOUBT THAT DD WENT TO GODRIC’S HOLLOW. AND BESIDES, OF ALL THINGS TO GET, WHY THE CLOAK? AND FURTHERMORE, HE SAID THAT JAMES LEFT IT IN HIS POSSESSION. SO HE DID NOT GET IT. IT WAS GIVEN TO HIM. SO THE QUESTION IS, WHY DID JAMES LEAVE IT TO HIM?
"I don't need a cloak to become invisible," said Dumbledore gently
SO DD CAN BECOME INVISIBLE WHEN HE WANTS TO? THAT’S THE MOST I CAN GLEAN FROM IT. I DUNNO IF THAT’S GONNA BE CONSEQUENTIAL THOUGH. BUT I THINK THE MORE PRESSING QUESTION IS WHY DD KNEW THAT HARRY WAS VISITING THE MIRROR. HARRY ASKED HIM “HOW DID YOU KNOW – “. DD ANSWERED HIM WITH “I DON’T NEED A CLOAK TO BECOME INVISIBLE. WELL I DUNNO WHAT HARRY WAS GONNA ASK, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME AS THOUGH DD’S ANSWER DID NOT ANSWER HARRY’S QUESTION. HOW DID HE KNW RON SAW HIMSELF AS HEAD BOY? HOW DID HE KNOW HARRY WAS THERE? THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE WANT ANSWERED. PERHAPS DD WAS INSIDE THE MIRROR (SOUNDS STUPID), THAT’S WHY HE WAS INVISIBLE TO HARRY, I DUNNO.
AS TO WHY IT WAS IN DD’S POSSESSION, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT. I FOUND THIS IN WIKIPEDIA: JKR SAID THAT SNAPE WAS NOT UNDER THE CLOAK IN GODRIC’S HOLLOW THE NIGHT THE POTTERS WERE MURDERED. SO WHY DOES DD HAVE IT? PERHAPS HE WENT TO GODRIC’S HOLLOW AND FOUND THE CLOAK AND GOT IT.
BUT THAT’S STUPID. WHY WOULD HE LEAVE HARRY THERE FOR HAGRID TO GET? HE MIGHT AS WELL HAVE GOTTEN THE SCREAMING BABY WITH THE SCAR ON HIS HEAD. SO I HIGHLY DOUBT THAT DD WENT TO GODRIC’S HOLLOW. AND BESIDES, OF ALL THINGS TO GET, WHY THE CLOAK? AND FURTHERMORE, HE SAID THAT JAMES LEFT IT IN HIS POSSESSION. SO HE DID NOT GET IT. IT WAS GIVEN TO HIM. SO THE QUESTION IS, WHY DID JAMES LEAVE IT TO HIM?
Because he has the Elder wand.
what? i dont get it, please explain. _________________
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