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yanksrockyes07
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 Posted: July 14, 2007 11:38 pm Post subject: Why did Voldemort choose Harry? |
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Im not sure if i get this.. Voldemore chose Harry because Harry had the best chance of killing him? He was most dangerous to him? If he was, why would voldemort choose him??? What exactly is the prohecy?
Im trying to go over everything b4 the final book
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| jus reread 5th and 6th, it'll make you feel good |
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| Dumbledore says that Voldemort felt a connection with Harry, because they are both half-bloods, not like with pure-blood Neville. |
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| Posted: July 24, 2007 5:16 pm Post subject: Re: Why did Voldemort choose Harry? |
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| yanksrockyes07 wrote: |
Im not sure if i get this.. Voldemore chose Harry because Harry had the best chance of killing him? He was most dangerous to him? If he was, why would voldemort choose him??? What exactly is the prohecy?
Im trying to go over everything b4 the final book
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movies are no good left out alot i mean a lot |
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Azza
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I keep forgetting that Harry is also a half blood as both of his parents are Wizards it just confuses me.
But it was either Potter or Longbottom and Potter must have been percieved by Voldermort as being the most threat. Therefore he must have had the idea that if he was to kill the baby Potter while he was still an infant it should be an easy task since the baby wasn't old enough to defend himself.
But what I don't get is....
That if both Potter and Longbottom were in consideration of being the wizard in the prophecy to destroy Voldermort, why didn't he just go and kill them both? Or maybe it was just his bad luck that he went straight for Potter first.
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Reread the series it will tell you why he goes after Harry.
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Adebola
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| You should read page 841 and 842 in harry potter and the order of the phoenix. |
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| yeah. i kind of didn't understand why Voldy went after Harry. i read somewhere that Voldemort had ask his parents to become Death Eaters, but they refuse. (what i read, i really don't believe it) But, I think it would have to be due to the fact that Harry and Voldemort had more of a connection then if he choose Neville. Both parents were in the Order, Neville's parents were Aurors. I think Harry's were too. I just didn't understand much till the end of the 5th book on! |
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GinnyX
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| muggleborn09 wrote: |
| yeah. i kind of didn't understand why Voldy went after Harry. i read somewhere that Voldemort had ask his parents to become Death Eaters, but they refuse. (what i read, i really don't believe it) But, I think it would have to be due to the fact that Harry and Voldemort had more of a connection then if he choose Neville. Both parents were in the Order, Neville's parents were Aurors. I think Harry's were too. I just didn't understand much till the end of the 5th book on! |
Harry's parents were not Aurors, they were full time members of the Order.
Here, from JKR's official site...
Section: F.A.Q.
What is the significance of Neville being the other boy to whom the prophecy might have referred?
Finally, I am answering the poll question! I am sorry it has taken so long, but let me start by saying how glad I am that this was the question that received the most votes, because this was the one that I most wanted to answer. Some of you might not like what I am going to say – but I'll address that issue at the end of my response!
To recap: Neville was born on the 30th of July, the day before Harry, so he too was born 'as the seventh month dies'. His parents, who were both famous Aurors, had 'thrice defied' Voldemort, just as Lily and James had. Voldemort was therefore presented with the choice of two baby boys to whom the prophecy might apply. However, he did not entirely realise what the implications of attacking them might be, because he had not heard the entire prophecy. As Dumbledore says:
'He [the eavesdropper] only heard the beginning, the part foretelling the birth of a boy in July to parents who had thrice defied Voldemort. Consequently, he could not warn his master that to attack you would be to risk transferring power to you.'
In effect, the prophecy gave Voldemort the choice of two candidates for his possible nemesis. In choosing which boy to murder, he was also (without realising it) choosing which boy to anoint as the Chosen One – to give him tools no other wizard possessed – the scar and the ability it conferred, a magical window into Voldemort's mind.
So what would have happened if Voldemort had decided that the pure-blood, not the half-blood, was the bigger threat? What would have happened if he had attacked Neville instead? Harry wonders this during the course of 'Half-Blood Prince' and concludes, rightly, that the answer hinges on whether or not one of Neville's parents would have been able, or prepared, to die for their son in the way that Lily died for Harry. If they hadn't, Neville would have been killed outright. Had Frank or Alice thrown themselves in front of Neville, however, the killing curse would have rebounded just as it did in Harry's case, and Neville would have been the one who survived with the lightning scar. What would this have meant? Would a Neville bearing the lightning scar have been as successful at evading Voldemort as Harry has been? Would Neville have had the qualities that have enabled Harry to remain strong and sane throughout all of his many ordeals? Although Dumbledore does not say as much, he does not believe so: he believes Voldemort did indeed choose the boy most likely to be able to topple him, for Harry's survival has not depended wholly or even mainly upon his scar.
So where does this leave Neville, the boy who was so nearly King? Well, it does not give him either hidden powers or a mysterious destiny. He remains a 'normal' wizarding boy, albeit one with a past, in its way, as tragic as Harry's. As you saw in 'Order of the Phoenix,' however, Neville is not without his own latent strengths. It remains to be seen how he will feel if he ever finds out how close he came to being the Chosen One.
Some of you, who have been convinced that the prophecy marked Neville, in some mystical fashion, for a fate intertwined with Harry's, may find this answer rather dull. Yet I was making what I felt was a significant point about Harry and Voldemort, and about prophecies themselves, in showing Neville as the also-ran. If neither boy was 'pre-ordained' before Voldemort's attack to become his possible vanquisher, then the prophecy (like the one the witches make to Macbeth, if anyone has read the play of the same name) becomes the catalyst for a situation that would never have occurred if it had not been made. Harry is propelled into a terrifying position he might never have sought, while Neville remains the tantalising 'might-have-been'. Destiny is a name often given in retrospect to choices that had dramatic consequences.
Of course, none of this should be taken to mean that Neville does not have a significant part to play in the last two novels, or the fight against Voldemort. As for the prophecy itself, it remains ambiguous, not only to readers, but to my characters. Prophecies (think of Nostradamus!) are usually open to many different interpretations. That is both their strength and their weakness.
http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/en/faq_view.cfm?id=84
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lol! nice long response. i couldnt remember off the top of my head if they were Aurors or not. i've read each book 3x each, but that was over a year ago.
ty for reminding me! 
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| Posted: July 3, 2008 9:36 pm Post subject: Re: Why did Voldemort choose Harry? |
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| yanksrockyes07 wrote: |
Im not sure if i get this.. Voldemore chose Harry because Harry had the best chance of killing him? He was most dangerous to him? If he was, why would voldemort choose him??? What exactly is the prohecy?
Im trying to go over everything b4 the final book
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nah, we know that voldermort choose harry not neville because that was snape opinion. we know that snape the one who has heard about the boy who will killed voldermort. so that, snape choose lily and james just because they are enemies. |
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Periculum
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| can you imagine "Neville Longbottom and the Sorceror's Stone"? |
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| can you imagine "Neville Longbottom and the Sorceror's Stone"? |
Haha! I want to see that. Fanfic!
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Periculum
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| can you imagine "Neville Longbottom and the Sorceror's Stone"? |
Haha! I want to see that. Fanfic! |
that would be sweet. I've never written one before so i should try that. |
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Hey, be my guest man. It'll definitely be interesting the way I imagine it. Haha.
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| Hey, be my guest man. It'll definitely be interesting the way I imagine it. Haha. |
im welcome to ideas. lol. |
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Well, I'm not entirely sure how big you want to make this. And depending on that, you'll have to start somewhere. I'm horrible at writing though. I just like the idea of bumbling, forgetful Neville with all this mighty responsibility on his shoulders. While he presented himself as quite the adult in the last book, I believe it'll be quit humorous, seeing as this is "The sorcerer's stone".
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| Artemis wrote: |
| Well, I'm not entirely sure how big you want to make this. And depending on that, you'll have to start somewhere. I'm horrible at writing though. I just like the idea of bumbling, forgetful Neville with all this mighty responsibility on his shoulders. While he presented himself as quite the adult in the last book, I believe it'll be quit humorous, seeing as this is "The sorcerer's stone". |
did you grow up with "sorcerors" or "philosophers"? |
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Sorcerer's stone. I actually never knew that there was a difference in naming.
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Please stay on topic.
Really quickly, though... in the UK it's called Philosopher's Stone.
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| Sorcerer's stone. I actually never knew that there was a difference in naming. |
as i understand, its exactly the same, but they replaced "sorcerer's" with "philosopher's". |
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| Sorcerer's stone. I actually never knew that there was a difference in naming. |
as i understand, its exactly the same, but they replaced "sorcerer's" with "philosopher's". |
Other way around. They replaced Philosopher with Sorcerer becaues they thought the American kids wouldn't want to read a book with the word philosopher in it.
Please check out eithe rof these links for more on that...
http://www.potterforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=7581
http://www.potterforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=3759
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Either way, couldn't the very same thing have happened had he chosen Neville? Small chance...but still...
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| Other way around. They replaced Philosopher with Sorcerer becaues they thought the American kids wouldn't want to read a book with the word philosopher in it. |
Are you serious? That's absolutely ridiculous! Omg! Well I don't like that at all...even though I'm not American..
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Voldemort chose Harry over Neville because he thought Harry was the most similar to himself: a half-blood.
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