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Which Death Impacted You the Most?
Hedwig
6%
 6%  [ 24 ]
Mad Eye
2%
 2%  [ 8 ]
Wormtail
0%
 0%  [ 1 ]
Snape
18%
 18%  [ 73 ]
Fred
27%
 27%  [ 108 ]
Dobby
31%
 31%  [ 124 ]
Lupin
9%
 9%  [ 36 ]
Tonks
4%
 4%  [ 17 ]
Collin Creevy
0%
 0%  [ 3 ]
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amberluvsron
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PostPosted: July 22, 2007 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ronfreak wrote:
Fred. What's one twin without another.

After the memories i felt bad about snape.

Same here. Poor George. They were so very close.
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PostPosted: July 22, 2007 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hedwig's death was unexpected. I was hoping that she would reappear somehow alive later on in the story. From the start I had a feeling something bad had happened to her or was going to happen to her, because of the way she was acting. I don't see why Rowling killed Hedwig off.
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PostPosted: July 22, 2007 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hedwig seems to be the least understood death, but I think it was very necessary for two reasons. One, that Harry simply could not have taken Hedwig on his journey with him, she would have been a nuisance and wouldn't have been in the book even if she hadn't died. But I believe the main reason that JK killed her off was to prove what someone said before, they anyone could die, that there was going to be a lot of blood shed, and that no one was safe, even Harry's closest friends.

Fred was the saddest death I think, he was the only one I cried for. The Weasley twins have always been my favourite characters and the idea of George without Fred was almost as sad as the fact that Fred died altogether. I think Fred's death was much more unnecessary than Hedwigs.

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PostPosted: July 22, 2007 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stariel wrote:
I expected Lupin to die, but the added death of tonks was heart wrenching. I have to say that Snape's death killed me after I found out what he had done for Harry.


I breezed through the book pretty quickly, so iam a little confused by your comment on *what snape did for harry*. What exactly did he do? I mean i know he got close to voldie and all that but he wasnt doing it to help harry. he was doing it for his love of lily. I still think snape is a git and a coward.
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PostPosted: July 22, 2007 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Death wrote:
stariel wrote:
I expected Lupin to die, but the added death of tonks was heart wrenching. I have to say that Snape's death killed me after I found out what he had done for Harry.


I breezed through the book pretty quickly, so iam a little confused by your comment on *what snape did for harry*. What exactly did he do? I mean i know he got close to voldie and all that but he wasnt doing it to help harry. he was doing it for his love of lily. I still think snape is a git and a coward.

He devoted his whole life to protecting Harry because he loved Lily so much and didn't want her to die in vain. He sent his patronus to guide Harry to the Sword of Gryffindor which helped him destroy the Horcrux's as well.
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PostPosted: July 22, 2007 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dobby hit me the hardest, because I loved his character so much. When he was introduced in Book 2, I fell in love with him then! All he wanted to do was protect Harry Potter...he even went against his master, Malfoy, to try and protect Harry. I was very sad that he died. But I was glad that at least it was a heroic death.

Hedwig's death upset me too, mostly because there really didn't seem to be a reason for it. Why did she have to kill Hedwig? There was no point to it. That upset me.
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PostPosted: July 22, 2007 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But there was a point to Hedwigs death!


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Hedwig seems to be the least understood death, but I think it was very necessary for two reasons. One, that Harry simply could not have taken Hedwig on his journey with him, she would have been a nuisance and wouldn't have been in the book even if she hadn't died. But I believe the main reason that JK killed her off was to prove what someone said before, they anyone could die, that there was going to be a lot of blood shed, and that no one was safe, even Harry's closest friends.
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PostPosted: July 22, 2007 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Death wrote:
stariel wrote:
I expected Lupin to die, but the added death of tonks was heart wrenching. I have to say that Snape's death killed me after I found out what he had done for Harry.


I breezed through the book pretty quickly, so iam a little confused by your comment on *what snape did for harry*. What exactly did he do? I mean i know he got close to voldie and all that but he wasnt doing it to help harry. he was doing it for his love of lily. I still think snape is a git and a coward.


How can you call Snape a coward? He spent his whole life living in danger to protect Harry! Even Dumbldore told Snape: I realize how much danger you live in every day trying to pretend to be on Voldemort's side, but really following my orders. I am re-reading all the books now, and I just got done with the first two...and I am looking at things a bit differently now that I know how it all ends...and it was pretty clear back at the start how much Snape was doing to protect Harry. The spell to protect him in book 1 when quirrell was trying to bring him down during the game. In book two, Snape even stepped in to defend Harry and tell the rest of the staff that perhaps Potter was just in the wrong place at the wrong time when Filtche's cat was petrified. Snape was doing things all along to protect Harry. Risking his life, every day! KNowing that at any moment Voldemort might realize that he was really on Dumbedore's side.

I find Snape to be perhaps one of the most heroic characters in the entire series. He was definitely not a coward, he was brave. He was a Dumbledore-man through and through!

Perhaps it was his love for Lily made him act this way...but it still does not change the fact that he was very brave and courageous all these years to stand by Dumbledore and protect Harry.
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PostPosted: July 22, 2007 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snape was NOT a coward. What he did for Harry is amazing.
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PostPosted: July 22, 2007 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kateasl wrote:
But there was a point to Hedwigs death!


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Hedwig seems to be the least understood death, but I think it was very necessary for two reasons. One, that Harry simply could not have taken Hedwig on his journey with him, she would have been a nuisance and wouldn't have been in the book even if she hadn't died. But I believe the main reason that JK killed her off was to prove what someone said before, they anyone could die, that there was going to be a lot of blood shed, and that no one was safe, even Harry's closest friends.


So just because Harry couldn't take Hedwig with him he had to die? That doesn't make sense to me. They didn't kill off everyone else's animals...and they didn't appear in this book either! And yes, "anyone" can die, but usually there is a point to their deaths. Like Dobby...or even like Snape, or Dumbledore, or Sirius. But to me, Hedwig's death had no real impact on the storyline. If Harry couldn't take Hedwig with him on his journey, why not just leave him at Hogwart's or wherever the other animals were left behind? I just found it to be a rather cruel and useless death.
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PostPosted: July 22, 2007 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dobby...becasue well I saw all the death spoilers spammed here, and as soon as Hedwig died I knew they were true. so the rest were sort of cushioned by taht. but somehow I had forgotten that Dobby was on that list. I thought I knew that he would be ok for sure, and then he wasn't. It felt like it physicaly punched me in the stomach. and then the whole funeral thing..."here lies Dobby, a free elf" Crying
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PostPosted: July 23, 2007 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cried for Hedwig, the only shocking unexpected death imo. I also cried when Hermione said what she'd done to her parents..
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PostPosted: July 23, 2007 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

salem2005 wrote:
kateasl wrote:
But there was a point to Hedwigs death!


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Hedwig seems to be the least understood death, but I think it was very necessary for two reasons. One, that Harry simply could not have taken Hedwig on his journey with him, she would have been a nuisance and wouldn't have been in the book even if she hadn't died. But I believe the main reason that JK killed her off was to prove what someone said before, they anyone could die, that there was going to be a lot of blood shed, and that no one was safe, even Harry's closest friends.


So just because Harry couldn't take Hedwig with him he had to die? That doesn't make sense to me. They didn't kill off everyone else's animals...and they didn't appear in this book either! And yes, "anyone" can die, but usually there is a point to their deaths. Like Dobby...or even like Snape, or Dumbledore, or Sirius. But to me, Hedwig's death had no real impact on the storyline. If Harry couldn't take Hedwig with him on his journey, why not just leave him at Hogwart's or wherever the other animals were left behind? I just found it to be a rather cruel and useless death.



As I said, the main reason Hedwig died was to indicate that the book was to be full of untimely, unexpected deaths. The fact that they couldn't take Harry on their journey was a smaller, less significant reason. Hedwig was used to send a message to the readers. Her death was aimed to shock. No one is safe, a lot of people are going to die, Harry's going to lose a lot of people/things he cares about... be prepared.
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PostPosted: July 23, 2007 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why isn't Scrimgeour an option?
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PostPosted: July 23, 2007 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was quit socked and very sad when Lupin and Tonks died!
I really wanted them to live after having Teddy!!
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PostPosted: July 23, 2007 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

salem2005 wrote:
kateasl wrote:
But there was a point to Hedwigs death!


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Hedwig seems to be the least understood death, but I think it was very necessary for two reasons. One, that Harry simply could not have taken Hedwig on his journey with him, she would have been a nuisance and wouldn't have been in the book even if she hadn't died. But I believe the main reason that JK killed her off was to prove what someone said before, they anyone could die, that there was going to be a lot of blood shed, and that no one was safe, even Harry's closest friends.


So just because Harry couldn't take Hedwig with him he had to die? That doesn't make sense to me. They didn't kill off everyone else's animals...and they didn't appear in this book either! And yes, "anyone" can die, but usually there is a point to their deaths. Like Dobby...or even like Snape, or Dumbledore, or Sirius. But to me, Hedwig's death had no real impact on the storyline. If Harry couldn't take Hedwig with him on his journey, why not just leave him at Hogwart's or wherever the other animals were left behind? I just found it to be a rather cruel and useless death.


The point of killing Hedwig off (if there needs to be one) is to shock you from the start, to let you know deaths can occur even though it maybe "pointless" to you, to let you dread that another "pointless" death may occur on any next page. Isn't this enough?
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PostPosted: July 23, 2007 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Death wrote:
stariel wrote:
I expected Lupin to die, but the added death of tonks was heart wrenching. I have to say that Snape's death killed me after I found out what he had done for Harry.


I breezed through the book pretty quickly, so iam a little confused by your comment on *what snape did for harry*. What exactly did he do? I mean i know he got close to voldie and all that but he wasnt doing it to help harry. he was doing it for his love of lily. I still think snape is a git and a coward.

Being brave and doing something only out of love to someone are not mutually exclusive things. The former is a nature of an act; the latter motivation. Whatever motivation that drove him to do what he did could not undermine the danger of it, and thus his bravery. It's exactly out of the love to Lily that Snape decided to do something so brave: risking his life, killing the only person who knew his good nature...
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PostPosted: July 23, 2007 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fred affected me the most, simply because I was not impacted by any other death at all, I was waiting on them.

But, I really had an emotional attachment to Fred and George in this book. Simply because even in times of grave danger and peril, they still, still, retained the will to be defiant.

When George got his ear cut off, he came to making a joke of it. Fred naturally countered that. The Radio station, and at the end when they volunteered for the hardest job. The arrogance, sense of humour, and simple defiance over everything around them really touched me. I think we could all take a page from there book.
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PostPosted: July 23, 2007 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spoiler:

Fred definately Fred


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PostPosted: July 23, 2007 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dobby's death was the only one that brought tears to my eyes, and so I'd say his death impacted me the most. And it was beautifully written too. *tear*

I was suprised by Tonks, but not by Lupin's death. I had a feeling the marauders were cursed like that when Sirius died. When I read that Wormtail had killed himself, I thought "That's it, Lupin's as good as gone now." And it was so bluntly written, I couldn't really feel anything for them even though thay are two of my favourite characters. Although Lupin's behaviour was a tad out of place for my liking.

Now, Snape's didn't have that much impact on me at the time of reading, but now, I think it may be more devastating than Dobby's. I had an inkling he'd die but I am so gutted that he did. *sobs* And in such a brutal way too :'(
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PostPosted: July 23, 2007 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

probably fred, because i was already pretty emotional about percy's return and then his desire to not leave fred's side afterward. then later in the great hall, with all the weasleys crowded around his body.

dobby was second though, probably due to the circumstances surrounding his death.

i kind of feel like lupin should have been the saddest, but his death didn't seem to be given enough of an explanation for it to hit as hard.

edit- oh i completely forgot about snape! lol. i had predicted that dumbledore's murder had been pre-planned, so during that part of the book i guess i was feeling sort of vindicated. and at the same time, this whole new plot twist was brought to the story, and it was essentially the sort of thing i had been craving from this final book. something i had never thought of that tied so much together.
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PostPosted: July 23, 2007 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I managed to avoid any and all spoilers due to the fact that I was on holiday without the internet, so I had no idea that Lupin was terribly threatened, though I had an inkling that, when Wormtail died, all of the Marauders would end u