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weasleytwins
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PostPosted: July 15, 2006 4:23 pm    Post subject: ron = dumbledore? Reply with quote

http://www.knight2king.net/Knight2King/weasleyisourking.html

i dont agree with it, but its very interesting.
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PostPosted: July 15, 2006 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://community.livejournal.com/unplottables/15727.html

the other side of the arguement^^^
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PostPosted: July 15, 2006 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting...
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Lily Filarwitz
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PostPosted: July 15, 2006 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Care to explain a bit more...?
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PostPosted: July 16, 2006 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are many similarities in both characters, and although the other srguments don't bring many facts up (it is more like a wish) I am not sure enough to be able to say that it is true that Ron and Dumbledore are the same... I don't think JKR would do something like that...
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PostPosted: July 17, 2006 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well.... it is an interesting theory, but like sonita said, I don't think that JKR would do something like that. She just.... I mean, isn't there enough to wrap up in the seventh book already without adding Ron turning into Dumbledore? The way it's going, I think it's already going to be as thck as Hermione's idea of "light reading."
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PostPosted: July 17, 2006 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally just think it sounds silly. I don't mean that to put down the people who came up with it because they did their research and everything, but it just doesn't sound in the least likely to me.
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PostPosted: July 17, 2006 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's sometimes good to have some "off the wall" Therioes sometimes it leads to other cool ideas.
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PostPosted: July 18, 2006 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree Phoenix...it's certainly fun, if nothing else!
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PostPosted: July 20, 2006 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, sure, thay are fun... I guess.. but then, everything has a limit...
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PostPosted: July 20, 2006 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very true...if it just started getting to the point where everything was an absolutely ridiculous theory, I think that would suck all of the fun right out of it. We need balance between the ridiculous and the entirely possible.
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PostPosted: July 21, 2006 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

littlehangleton wrote:
Very true...if it just started getting to the point where everything was an absolutely ridiculous theory, I think that would suck all of the fun right out of it. We need balance between the ridiculous and the entirely possible.
exactly
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PostPosted: July 22, 2006 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has already been debunked by Rowling but it’s an interesting theory nonetheless.
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PostPosted: July 22, 2006 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is an interesting theory, but I don't think Albus Dumbledore could be Ron because Ron would want everyone to know that it's him, wouldn't he? And even if he didn't want everyone to know that it's him using time travel to become the wise Albus Dumbledore in the future, he would still at least tell Harry and Hermione, wouldn't he? I guess it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me unless J.K. Rowling says that it is true. But, I still do like theories all the same, if they don't make sense to me or if they do.
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PostPosted: July 22, 2006 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like speculating on thories as well, but there is a point where sometimes it is a little farfetched...
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PostPosted: July 28, 2006 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sonita888 wrote:
I like speculating on thories as well, but there is a point where sometimes it is a little farfetched...


Yes, this does sound a little far-fetched to me. Sounds like people are thinking about how Scabbers turned out to be Pettigrew and hoping something like that will happen again. No chance.
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PostPosted: July 28, 2006 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt wrote:
Sonita888 wrote:
I like speculating on thories as well, but there is a point where sometimes it is a little farfetched...


Yes, this does sound a little far-fetched to me. Sounds like people are thinking about how Scabbers turned out to be Pettigrew and hoping something like that will happen again. No chance.

exactly!
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PostPosted: August 3, 2006 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if the theory is that ron goes back into time to take over dd;s life, then the part of the article that quotes a part of the book where ron "proudly" compliments dd does not make sense. this quote tries to prove that ron=dd, but it does not because the present ron did not yet travel back in time to become dd so he wouldnt know he is dd


follow? i know its a bit confusing i didnt know how to word it
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PostPosted: August 4, 2006 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very intriguing theory there. I like the thought of it but, I don't think it's possible. Saying that perhaps Ron could be Dumbledore or vice versa...don't buy it. I don't believe it but still it's a very nice thoery to discuss about and speculate about. Hmm...
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PostPosted: August 13, 2006 1:48 am    Post subject: Dumbledore Living Backwards Theory Reply with quote

From the textual evidence presented by the Ron=Dumbledore theory, I remembered something I read in another book about wizards:

In TH White's "The Once and Future King," Merlyn the wizard lives backwards in time. His memories are future events, and as such his "visions" of the future come to him disjointed and blurry as most memories come to us.

What if Dumbledore, like Merlyn, has this "affliction?" It would explain the existence of the Pensieve. Actual events that have just passed could be confused with future events, so he puts them in the Pensieve in order to sort it out later.

This would also explain how he seems to know so much about things when he was neither present to witness them, or utters things that surprise and confuse Harry.

With this in mind, go back and read the Knight2King article and see how the Merlyn affliction can also explain the actions of Dumbledore.
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PostPosted: August 14, 2006 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow some of theories people come up with. It looks like it was written by a couple of grad students reading WAY to much into the book.

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From the textual evidence presented by the Ron=Dumbledore theory, I remembered something I read in another book about wizards:

In TH White's "The Once and Future King," Merlyn the wizard lives backwards in time. His memories are future events, and as such his "visions" of the future come to him disjointed and blurry as most memories come to us.

What if Dumbledore, like Merlyn, has this "affliction?" It would explain the existence of the Pensieve. Actual events that have just passed could be confused with future events, so he puts them in the Pensieve in order to sort it out later.

This would also explain how he seems to know so much about things when he was neither present to witness them, or utters things that surprise and confuse Harry.

With this in mind, go back and read the Knight2King article and see how the Merlyn affliction can also explain the actions of Dumbledore.


DD is not the only wizard with a pensive Snape has one to and as far as we know they aren't an uncommen thing.
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PostPosted: August 30, 2006 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Over examined. That's what I say.
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PostPosted: August 31, 2006 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems to be an interesting theory. If it's true, that means that he's got to step up and lead the charge. He'll probably scare the Hell out of Hermione in the process too.
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PostPosted: September 9, 2006 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The whole time-travel thing was fun the first time around, but that's a ride I think I'd rather not get on the second time around. This whole Ron=Dumbledore thing freaks me out. Ron and Dumbledore aren't anything alike when it comes to the big stuff. As the writer of the livejournal essay says, Ron his hot-headed and temperamental. Dumbledore is as cool as a cucumber, and even in his moments of actual rage, he's still very cool-headed. Living for more than a hundred years might calm someone down, but that's a complete turn-around. Doesn't seem plausible to me.

Out of curiosity, has anyone read the Treverus Theory on Mugglenet's CoS forums? Here's a link, if you want to check it out: http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=90673 Fair warning...it will take you a long time to read through all of the complete and total nonsense, tangents, and whatnot, but it made me laugh. This whole Ron=Dumbledore thing reminded me of it.
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