I believe Tom Riddle can love what fisrt made me think this is that scene in chamber of secrets(the book)where harry is in the diary and in the headmaster's office with tom and dippet,riddle got embarassed and got a pink tinge on his cheeks!If he can be:Curious,angry,excited(about evil things),and embarrassed why not at least fancy someone.And the seconed thing that made me a beliver that he can love is this.
I did not write this this came from livejournal and the two genius who asked/wrote it:
so we are told 23239239 times that voldemort does not have the ability to love, but maybe this could be a misconception. i was dicussing w/some friends and i read a couple things online where they talked about voldemort and how he killed his dad to avenge his mom. so maybe he loved his mom in some way, what do you guys think?
anzati_aurora
2008-03-28 01:59 am UTC (link)
I think he loved the idea of a mother or a family. He must have loved her when he was a child, I think. But when he found out that she was a witch, and could have 'saved herself' then I think the illusion shattered. He despised the idea that she was weak. He despised her for dying and leaving him in that orphanage. He hated his father for never coming for him. For abandoning him and his mother. Thus, probably stoking his hatred for Muggles.
When Jo says Voldemort couldn't love, I think she meant just that. Voldemort. Not Tom. Voldemort, the man who destroyed his soul, thus destroying any capability to love. He violated himself. He was driven so beyond humanity that he couldn't love. At least not true, unconditional, selfless love. Voldemort just wasn't human after he made his Horcruxes. That's where I think fans get disillusioned.
But I know Tom loved. How could he not? He wasn't born evil. He wasn't born incapable to love. It's stupid to even think that. Tom probably grew up waiting for his mother or father to come and save him from the orphanage. He loved them. I just wish people could see the difference between Tom and Voldemort.
Again, just my interpretation, but I hope this helped )
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ivorylines____
2008-03-28 04:53 am UTC (link)
well, when dumbledore went to go visit tom at the orphanage and tom asks him if his dad was a wizard and he's like "my mom couldnt have magic or she wouldnt have died, so it was probably my dad" blah blah blah. he was probably indifferent about his mom at this point cause he took pride in his dad and stuff but then he finds out what his dad did and he reversed his reactions didn't he? we do not know what he knew BEFORE he talked to morfin so it gets somewhat confusing.
but anyways not to go off on tangents...i really find it interesting what you said, that voldemort can't love, but tom could have. however, even as a child he seemed a bit psychotic didn't he?
so i wonder if his family was the other way around...lets say his dad was the pureblood wizard (still same personality and merope was the muggle and his dad left her) do you think he would've felt the same?
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anzati_aurora
2008-03-28 05:27 am UTC (link)
My word isn't gospel, I've never studied child behaviors and haven't read HBP in a while, but here's my two cents: He was most likely upset with his mother for dying. He dismissed her as being weak and instead sought out reason, strength in his father. He knew his mother was dead. She was never going to come for him. But he had to keep hope and faith in his father. When those dreams were crushed, what other option did he have? This boy had no love. No family. As a child his dreams were crushed. He thought had to act strong. He thought that he had to bully, to prove his worth, his strength, to prove that he could go on. Even though I think inside it was a completely different story.
See, Tom's an interesting character. We don't know his back story. We don't know what was going on in his head. Psychotic, maybe. But here's where I agree with arbor_vitae. Tom most likely suffered from a disorder. His behavior is very real...
If his family were reversed? Well, I suppose he still would have resented his father as a person, not his lineage. He would have taken the lineage as his right, perhaps 'usurping' his father? Sons of kings would often do that. I honestly believe that he would have killed him Pureblood or not just for leaving him, abandoning him, heir of Salazar Slytherin that he was. As for Merope, I think he still would have loved the idea of a mother. For a weak muggle who died in childbirth? Not so much.
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See he can love,Tom can.Just not Voldemort.Which I've always known that,he was to far gone by then to love.Which is where Lord Voldemort is weak,he can't love.It is easier to stop being loyal to someone than to stop loving them-so maybe he would have been better off loving his death eaters and he would have returned sooner.
What do you think?It had me convinced when I read it still does!
No, he can't. Lov e is a powerful emotion that Tom does not possess the capabilites of feeling.
Tom was conceived based on lies and trickery. He was sort-of born evil, although Merope's affection could have altered that... JKR explains this better... here...
From Bloomsbury Live Webchat
Ravleen: How much does the fact that voldemort was conceived under a love potion have to do with his nonability to understand love is it more symbolic
J.K. Rowling: It was a symbolic way of showing that he came from a loveless union – but of course, everything would have changed if Merope had survived and raised him herself and loved him.
J.K. Rowling: The enchantment under which Tom Riddle fathered Voldemort is important because it shows coercion, and there can’t be many more prejudicial ways to enter the world than as the result of such a union.
Entertainment Weekly
"You have Voldemort, a raging psychopath, devoid of the normal human responses to other people's suffering, and there ARE people like that in the world." _________________ Breathing is optional. Look, Bella, look.
she said herself he can't love...end of story. I don't think he killed his dad out of love for his mom. I actually think he would have been bitter that she just died rather than live and take care of him. ah I see now that article thingy says that...that he did and his dreams were shattered. well I don't think a little boy dreaming of a happy home and a loving mummy would torture kids and hang rabbits. and if he was starving for love before he found out he was a wizard he would have gladly accepted dumbledore's offer to accompany him to diagon alley. _________________
I think when he was young he had the potential to love. But the choices he made in life changed him into an adult who was incapable of love, and beyond all possible help.
I'm reminded of what Dumbledore said at King's Cross, when he said to Harry "you cannot help him". At that point we saw what Voldemort was reduced to and what he had brought upon himself -- and he was beyond help, and beyond the capacity to love.
That's what I am saying,when he was young.When he was Tom Riddle.But after he disappeared,no one ever heard of Tom anymore,because he had already taken the 'Lord Voldemort' visage as his name for good,so it is at that point I think he was not capable to love or be redeemed.I don't believe the Voldemort we saw in the book 6 inside the pensive that went to see dumbledore about the dada job could love either.Lord Voldemort can't love,there is not enough human in him to love and he's not even human when you really think about it.Tom Riddle could though..No one is born evil even a future dark lord.J.k answered this question in a interview:Has Voldemort or Tom Riddle ever cared for or loved anyone?
Now, that’s a cracking question to end with—very good. No, never. [Laughter.] If he had, he couldn’t possibly be what he is. You will find out a lot more about that.
See the question wasn't was he,Tom Riddle(thats who I'm talking about not Voldemort)not capable of love it was did he ever care/love anyone!And of course he wasn't going to find someone to love because where would the villan be in Harry Potter.But he can love.
See the question wasn't was he,Tom Riddle(thats who I'm talking about not Voldemort)not capable of love it was did he ever care/love anyone!And of course he wasn't going to find someone to love because where would the villan be in Harry Potter.But he can love.
I don't think Tom Riddle, not Voldemort, was capable of love. Please scroll up and read the quotes I provided by JKR, she explains it better than I do, since they are her stories.
In HBP we learn that he was an evil little child. Child. Not adult. He was evil before he was an adult. And I think his evil and want for power clouded his ability to love. _________________ Breathing is optional. Look, Bella, look.
as far as I see it nothing MADE him evil. no other child in that orphanage did those horrible things, harry probably had it even harder and he turned out to be great. I think he was just born that way. he was born evil, and evil can't love. _________________
I think when he was young he had the potential to love. But the choices he made in life changed him into an adult who was incapable of love, and beyond all possible help.
I'm reminded of what Dumbledore said at King's Cross, when he said to Harry "you cannot help him". At that point we saw what Voldemort was reduced to and what he had brought upon himself -- and he was beyond help, and beyond the capacity to love.
well.. i belive that voldemort's inability to love wasnt only because of the fact that he lost his parents..
harry too grew up with out parents..completely neglected... and bullied by every person he ever knew...
at home by dursleys... their relative marge.. folks at skool avoided him..because he was dudley's target...
so he grew up as badly as voldemort..infact voldy atleast had the option of being friends with his people at the orphanage... but he chose not to...
anyway....so it simply dpeends on deepst nature of him..
no body taught an abandoned boy like harry to love..he virtually had no friends till the age of 11...
so.. i guess..its just voldemort... _________________
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