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zengrenouille
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PostPosted: September 19, 2008 12:19 am    Post subject: The Malfoys Reply with quote

There is a guy in the HP club at my college who feels that Jo pointlessly built the characters in the Malfoy family just to end up doing nothing with them. He says that he was expecting something epic, and they turned out pointless in the end. I thought of it that way, and I feel that they had important parts throughout the books -- which always worked for me. I am interested in getting other opinions on this subject, though.
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PostPosted: September 19, 2008 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, there are three reasons Draco was in the series at all: A little schoolmate rivalry never hurt anyone (well, to a certain extent); we needed that Unbreakable Vow for Snape; and we needed to get Lucius in the picture so that way we have more of a "connection" with the Dark Lord through a Death Eater.

As for his mother, there's really no need other than the Unbreakable Vow.

As for his father, he's actually a somewhat important character when you look at the context. Accidently freeing Dobby, the whole Buckbeak thing, Department of Mysteries, and in the end, he's the guy you love to hate.
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PostPosted: September 19, 2008 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Malfoys are extremely important to the story and to the development of the protagonists.

Firstly, Draco is vitally important to really bring home the racism that is present in the pureblood world. Having somebody use a racial slur to your face is much different than knowing about the racism in the community. The issue of pure/non-pureblood wizards is brought up at an early stage of the series

Spoiler:

before it goes to the ministry level

via Draco. Having a rival adds more depth to Harry's character. Sure, he's not always the most popular guy in the school, but Draco really helps drive the point home that Harry, and Harry's opinions are not always well received in the wizarding community: even outside of direct conflict.

As for what ends up happening to the Malfoys in the end, I think it is actually the complete opposite of "doing nothing" with them.

Spoiler:

Unless my memory is very much incorrect, I'm pretty sure Narscissa ultimately helped Harry defeat Lord Voldemort in order to save Draco



By not being part of any grand scheme, Jo demonstrated that the Malfoys, as horrible at they seemed at various points in the story line, were actually, deep down inside, not horrible people. As much as I hate the epilogue, I think that the interaction between Harry and Draco pretty much solidifies this idea. That people (such as the Malfoys) can be corrupted and do terrible things, especially under the influence of talented leaders, but this does not mean that they cannot be shown the error of their ways.
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PostPosted: September 24, 2008 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Notomys mordax wrote:
The Malfoys are extremely important to the story and to the development of the protagonists.

Firstly, Draco is vitally important to really bring home the racism that is present in the pureblood world. Having somebody use a racial slur to your face is much different than knowing about the racism in the community. The issue of pure/non-pureblood wizards is brought up at an early stage of the series

Spoiler:

before it goes to the ministry level

via Draco. Having a rival adds more depth to Harry's character. Sure, he's not always the most popular guy in the school, but Draco really helps drive the point home that Harry, and Harry's opinions are not always well received in the wizarding community: even outside of direct conflict.

As for what ends up happening to the Malfoys in the end, I think it is actually the complete opposite of "doing nothing" with them.

Spoiler:

Unless my memory is very much incorrect, I'm pretty sure Narscissa ultimately helped Harry defeat Lord Voldemort in order to save Draco



By not being part of any grand scheme, Jo demonstrated that the Malfoys, as horrible at they seemed at various points in the story line, were actually, deep down inside, not horrible people. As much as I hate the epilogue, I think that the interaction between Harry and Draco pretty much solidifies this idea. That people (such as the Malfoys) can be corrupted and do terrible things, especially under the influence of talented leaders, but this does not mean that they cannot be shown the error of their ways.


I agree with you completely, you said it perfectly.
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PostPosted: November 24, 2008 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think they were very important for reasons already stated.

but i think that they could have been explored a bunch more. i always wanted to know their back story, what made them 'evil', pushed them to become death eaters, stuff like that.
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PostPosted: November 28, 2008 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought Draco had the most point obviously. I just thought that he got absolutely no other portrayal besides the bully. He was a smart kid! he tricked Dumbledore.

JK had a very "good always wins against evil" view and a "only gryffendors are good" way of doing things. Hufflepuffs were dumb, Ravenclaws were smart and self centered, and Syltherins were evil.....

and i dont think Draco was nessicarily evil. He was just cunning and very self motivated. yeah its not the greatest trait in the world but he was an amazing character.

He was in every book pretty much, to just knock harry back on his toes. He was the Arch enemy. so yeah, i think he had a huge impact on the story throught the series.
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PostPosted: December 2, 2008 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyia wrote:
Notomys mordax wrote:
The Malfoys are extremely important to the story and to the development of the protagonists.

Firstly, Draco is vitally important to really bring home the racism that is present in the pureblood world. Having somebody use a racial slur to your face is much different than knowing about the racism in the community. The issue of pure/non-pureblood wizards is brought up at an early stage of the series

Spoiler:

before it goes to the ministry level

via Draco. Having a rival adds more depth to Harry's character. Sure, he's not always the most popular guy in the school, but Draco really helps drive the point home that Harry, and Harry's opinions are not always well received in the wizarding community: even outside of direct conflict.

As for what ends up happening to the Malfoys in the end, I think it is actually the complete opposite of "doing nothing" with them.

Spoiler:

Unless my memory is very much incorrect, I'm pretty sure Narscissa ultimately helped Harry defeat Lord Voldemort in order to save Draco



By not being part of any grand scheme, Jo demonstrated that the Malfoys, as horrible at they seemed at various points in the story line, were actually, deep down inside, not horrible people. As much as I hate the epilogue, I think that the interaction between Harry and Draco pretty much solidifies this idea. That people (such as the Malfoys) can be corrupted and do terrible things, especially under the influence of talented leaders, but this does not mean that they cannot be shown the error of their ways.


I agree with you completely, you said it perfectly.


i agree with both of you Smile
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PostPosted: December 2, 2008 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They played big parts, but they definetely had potential to be bigger.
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