They really need to bring back the original director Chris Columbus for this movie. That way they can have started great, and end great.
Anybody else agree with me on this? _________________ The boy who lived marries the wrong girl.
The girl whom he loves can not be his.
Harry, and Hermione...shoulda been!
I agree, though Yates is not doing so bad. Columbus and Yates will be the only two directors to direct not only two of the movies in the series, but two consecutivly (sp?) _________________
See I think Yates has taken too much out of the books (includeing way to much of the OOTP book - I mean WTF was he thinking....) _________________ The boy who lived marries the wrong girl.
The girl whom he loves can not be his.
Harry, and Hermione...shoulda been!
See I think Yates has taken too much out of the books (includeing way to much of the OOTP book - I mean WTF was he thinking....)
The OP book was the longest of the entire series and there was absolutely no way he could have filmed almost everything in that book. Although I would have liked to see Quidditch in the most recent film, I'm kind of glad it was taken out. It wasn't like Harry was the seeker anymore with Umbridge having taken over Hogwarts. He did an okay job and did include a lot of the major plots even if the details weren't that great. Now, I'm not coming to his defense (the movie definitely could have been longer by at least 30-40 minutes for a total of about 2 hours and 50 minutes to 3 hours).
The first two films, especially the first one, to me, seemed like family films. The age of the characters were 11/12 and they still looked like kids/pre-teens. It gathered families together. For me, I didn't really like the first two because it didn't advance the plot very well (but that would be obviously considering it was the first two of a seven book/film series). However, the films definitely got darker after the 3rd and we're talking about death, etc, as well as the fact that the characters have matured. It would only be obvious for it to get darker. Even so, it doesn't really matter that much because by now, the kids who had watched the first film when it came out would have already aged enough.
On that note, if Columbus can direct the last film without having it be too much like the first one then I'm all for it. Hopefully he'll actually think of making the film about 3 hours so he could include some of the scenes, in detail, that I'd like to see (ie: wedding, Gringotts, Bill/Fleur's house, Malfoy Manor, etc.). _________________ Harry + Ginny
See I think Yates has taken too much out of the books (includeing way to much of the OOTP book - I mean WTF was he thinking....)
The OP book was the longest of the entire series and there was absolutely no way he could have filmed almost everything in that book. Although I would have liked to see Quidditch in the most recent film, I'm kind of glad it was taken out. It wasn't like Harry was the seeker anymore with Umbridge having taken over Hogwarts. He did an okay job and did include a lot of the major plots even if the details weren't that great. Now, I'm not coming to his defense (the movie definitely could have been longer by at least 30-40 minutes for a total of about 2 hours and 50 minutes to 3 hours).
The first two films, especially the first one, to me, seemed like family films. The age of the characters were 11/12 and they still looked like kids/pre-teens. It gathered families together. For me, I didn't really like the first two because it didn't advance the plot very well (but that would be obviously considering it was the first two of a seven book/film series). However, the films definitely got darker after the 3rd and we're talking about death, etc, as well as the fact that the characters have matured. It would only be obvious for it to get darker. Even so, it doesn't really matter that much because by now, the kids who had watched the first film when it came out would have already aged enough.
On that note, if Columbus can direct the last film without having it be too much like the first one then I'm all for it. Hopefully he'll actually think of making the film about 3 hours so he could include some of the scenes, in detail, that I'd like to see (ie: wedding, Gringotts, Bill/Fleur's house, Malfoy Manor, etc.).
Part of the reason I sugested Columbus was because I liked his style (the first two HP movies.) But I can almost say know that the wedding scene is gunna be less than 3 minutes, if it's even in there. And Gringotts will only have enough for them to be getting the cup and leaving on the Dragon.
Columbus was great with the "battle" scenes so it would be brilliant to see him direct the final battle. _________________ The boy who lived marries the wrong girl.
The girl whom he loves can not be his.
Harry, and Hermione...shoulda been!
I think Columbus is too sugary sweet for DH. _________________ They say home is where the heart is, so your real home's in your chest. --Captain Hammer
I thought Columbus did a good job with the first film, but I wasn't too impressed with CoS. He took out the scenes where the trio meets Colin and Justin. In those scenes we learn they're muggle-born. Without those scenes the plot became confusing as to why the Basilsk was going after those students. Those were important scenes.
None of the directors so far kept everything in that we feel they should have. Which is understandable considering the lengths of the books.
Keep in mind that Columbus kept a lot in the first two movies, but the books themselves were MUCH shorter in length than any of the others. So it was easier for him to keep in as much as he wanted and still keep the length of the film under 3 hours. _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate ~ Bob Dylan Team Cucumber, FTW!
Yeah, I think that too. I'd rather he didn't direct since this movoe will be so dark.
When he was first announced as the director there was an outpouring of protests from fans of the books because he did have a history of sugary sweetness and sappiness. So he said he would be careful to take care not to go too far with the sugary goodness.
I think he held up his promise well in SS/PS. Of course, that story wasn't as dark as the others.
In CoS I think he tried... but he didn't balance the sugar and dark very well. It was too up and down... and then it got very dark... and then it ended with a big group hug. That hug was not the best choice he could have made, to say the least.
It makes me nervous how he would end DH, instead of everyone dying, there's a big hug betwen Harry and Voldemort. And Molly and Bellatrix exchange cookie recipes. _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate ~ Bob Dylan Team Cucumber, FTW!
He did suger CoS over a bit, but it is a children's story. It's susposed to be slightly sugary.
Granted the other storys are darker - but not to the extent of the other directors, they have turned the series almost into a horror series.
I believe that Columbus wouldn't sugar over anything in DH and while he did miss a couple of scenes in CoS overall he kept more than Curion or Yates.
If not directing he should atleast produce it (for some reason he hasn't produced that last two) _________________ The boy who lived marries the wrong girl.
The girl whom he loves can not be his.
Harry, and Hermione...shoulda been!
I'd take Yates over Columbus, but Columbus over Cuaron. I know Yates cut a lot, but I was so entertained I didn't care (except for the beginning...but as soon as they hit the hogwarts express I was sucked in).
who's been producing them since Columbus stopped? I don't really know as I have a preference for producer lol. _________________ They say home is where the heart is, so your real home's in your chest. --Captain Hammer
Producers...
All the producers do is deal with the money mostly. They have little to no say in the creative aspect of the film.
SS/PS
Todd Arnow .... associate producer
Michael Barnathan .... executive producer
Chris Columbus .... executive producer
Paula DuPré Pesman .... associate producer (as Paula Dupre-Pesman)
Duncan Henderson .... executive producer
David Heyman .... producer
Mark Radcliffe .... executive producer
Tanya Seghatchian .... co-producer
CoS
Michael Barnathan .... executive producer
David Barron .... executive producer
Chris Columbus .... executive producer
Paula DuPré Pesman .... associate producer
David Heyman .... producer
Mark Radcliffe .... executive producer
Tanya Seghatchian .... co-producer
PoA
Michael Barnathan .... executive producer
Chris Carreras .... associate producer
Chris Columbus .... producer
Paula DuPré Pesman .... associate producer
David Heyman .... producer
Callum McDougall .... executive producer
Lorne Orleans .... producer (IMAX version)
Mark Radcliffe .... producer
Tanya Seghatchian .... executive producer
GoF
David Barron .... executive producer
Chris Carreras .... associate producer
David Heyman .... producer
Peter MacDonald .... co-producer
Lorne Orleans .... producer (IMAX version)
Tanya Seghatchian .... executive producer
John Trehy .... associate producer
OotP
David Barron .... producer
David Heyman .... producer
Tim Lewis .... associate producer
Lorne Orleans .... producer (IMAX version)
John Trehy .... co-producer
Lionel Wigram .... executive producer
All inforamtion is thanks to www.imdb.com... a website that is usally correct and often helpful. _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate ~ Bob Dylan Team Cucumber, FTW!
Hmmm...I thought the producers were in charge of the final cut of the film (along with the directors)
So they have no say over the final product? _________________ The boy who lived marries the wrong girl.
The girl whom he loves can not be his.
Harry, and Hermione...shoulda been!
It depends on the situations. Obviously a producer for a no-budget community theater play and a producer for a huge blockbuster summer movie are not going to have the exact same responsibilities.
A producer is in charge of the money. Some producers dump in money and have little to no say in what goes on. They just have to hope for the best or they have faith in the director and the rest that the movie or whatever will make money.
Then there are the producers who are not about to shovel in money without having a say in what happens to their investment.
There are also different types of producers, but not ever play, film, or whatever requires each type.
This is how imdb defines each position...
Producer
The chief of staff of a movie production in all matters save the creative efforts of the director, who is head of the line. A producer is responsible for raising funding, hiring key personnel, and arranging for distributors.
Associate Producer
An individual who performs a limited number of producing functions delegated to her/him by a producer, under the direct supervision and control of that producer. The term may also refer to a person who would qualify as an executive producer of a project, but for the fact that (s)he acts on behalf of a production company which is subordinate to another one on that project.
Co-Producer
A producer who performs a substantial portion of a creative producing function, or who is primarily responsible for one or more managerial producing functions. A co-producer has less responsibility than a producer for the completion of a project. Note that if a project has more than one producer, it doesn't mean that these individuals are "co-producers" in the technical sense of that term.
Executive Producer
A producer who is not involved in any technical aspects of the filmmaking process, but who is still responsible for the overall production. Typically an executive producer handles business and legal issues.
I believe the way it works, and this is not all from imdb what I'm about to say but from years of school, a co-producer does have a say in some of the creativity, but only to the extent where it will help the producer. The producer wants to make money, the co-producer might help to guide that along. So, if anything, they might make deicsions that could annoy the audience, but save the production money. _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate ~ Bob Dylan Team Cucumber, FTW!
Well, it doesn't matter either way, columbus was not hired back for either of the final two films - and Yates has been tagged for the next film as Director. _________________ The boy who lived marries the wrong girl.
The girl whom he loves can not be his.
Harry, and Hermione...shoulda been!
I honestly think that if Yates hadn't been so determined to keep the time down, then the movie would have been tons better. I hope he takes notice of all this fan backlash and comes to his senses before he butchers HBP. _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate ~ Bob Dylan Team Cucumber, FTW!
I honestly think that if Yates hadn't been so determined to keep the time down, then the movie would have been tons better. I hope he takes notice of all this fan backlash and comes to his senses before he butchers HBP.
no chance they'll make the move 2 hours 5 minutes again even though fans would watch the movie for even 4 hours - but it won't be cost predoctive - because you could only have 4 showing times per theater. _________________ The boy who lived marries the wrong girl.
The girl whom he loves can not be his.
Harry, and Hermione...shoulda been!
They are making the movies darker because well, the books are dark. There aren't very many "happy moments" in the final chapters. Some, yes, but there are a lot of tragedies, so it is very natural for the directors to darken the mood.
I thought Yates did a brilliant job. A few aspects of the film could have been handled a little better to not confuse newcomers, but overall I really enjoyed his efforts. I felt, for the first time, that the movie wasn't completely subsidiary to the book. The film could easily stand on its own, I think. And the final scenes were brilliantly directed and produced.
The movie should be the book - in film form. You should have to see one to understand the other.
PoA, GoF, and OOTP had I not read the books I wouldn't have had a clue as to what was going on - even still it was hard to follow the plot line because the stories were ripped apart and compressed into 2 hour chunks (I can read 40 pages in that time, which is NO WHERE NEAR enough time for a HP movie) _________________ The boy who lived marries the wrong girl.
The girl whom he loves can not be his.
Harry, and Hermione...shoulda been!
The movie should be the book - in film form. You should have to see one to understand the other.
That's impossible. There is no way to direct Harry's thoughts or every single aspect of the book for the film. You can only take so much from a book and film it. Yates definitely left a lot of the book out and he only got a small portion of the most important parts/themes of the book. I guess what you're saying is that the HP film series be like the LOTR film series. Now, that, I definitely agree with. _________________ Harry + Ginny
The movie should be the book - in film form. You should have to see one to understand the other.
That's impossible. There is no way to direct Harry's thoughts or every single aspect of the book for the film. You can only take so much from a book and film it. Yates definitely left a lot of the book out and he only got a small portion of the most important parts/themes of the book. I guess what you're saying is that the HP film series be like the LOTR film series. Now, that, I definitely agree with.
Not intirelly (and for the record I thnk the LOTR movies are horrible)
No you can't trap Harry's thoughts, but you also can't just change the story to make it more interesting, or just leave parts out because Yates didn't think they were important.
I'm glad I read the 7th book before I went to see the 5th movie, because if not I wouldn't have realised how much he left out, there is a reason that book is the largest one.
It has the most information in it, and is the turning point - it should have been a longer movie, and granted Columbus wouldn't have made it much longer - but he would have put more information into it. _________________ The boy who lived marries the wrong girl.
The girl whom he loves can not be his.
Harry, and Hermione...shoulda been!
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