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DeathlyHxChampion16
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 Posted: August 17, 2007 10:38 am Post subject: order vs. death eaters |
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| why do the members of the order dont use killing curses against death eaters when they use it, they already at a disadvantage why not fight fire with fire? |
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Fiendfyre
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| Posted: August 17, 2007 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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| To use the unforgivable curses, you have to mean it. I guess members of the order aren't evil enough to want to kill like that? |
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GinnyX
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| Posted: August 17, 2007 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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Because it was illegal. The Death Eaters were able to get away with it because they ran the Ministry. Eventually they did, though. Harry even used the Imperius Curse against the goblin to get them into Gringotts. By the time the battle came around, they obviously were using the Unforgivable Curses... Molly even used one to off Bellatrix.
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DeathlyHxChampion16
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| Posted: August 17, 2007 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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| very well said but im meaning the avada kadavra curse and the death eaters used it b4 they ran the ministry |
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GinnyX
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| Posted: August 17, 2007 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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Right, before the Death Eaters ran the Ministry they got in trouble for using the Unforgivable Curses, that's how Bellatrix got into Azkaban, for using Cruciatus on Neville's parents.
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ravvy
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| Posted: August 17, 2007 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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because they were trying to prove that 2 wrongs do not make a right...
evil will always win because good is dumb
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DeathlyHxChampion16
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| Posted: August 17, 2007 3:49 pm Post subject: ravvy |
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| my older sister said the same exact thing |
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| Posted: August 17, 2007 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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simply because it's illegal and after all they don't need to kill them, they can erase they memory or at least part of it, and after that they can be "normal" people
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| Posted: August 17, 2007 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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your older sister must be a very smart girl.
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| Posted: August 17, 2007 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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I agree that the Order probably thought that, morally, it was wrong to use the Unforgivable Curses. I noticed too that, particularly in book 5 (and even in the 5th movie), the Death Eaters are shouting Avada Kedavra, while the Order is only using Stupefy! But as was said, they were probably just trying to make a point that killing isn't the answer.
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sectumsempra_levicorpus
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| Posted: August 18, 2007 11:52 am Post subject: |
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As DD said it isn't easy killing someone anyway. I agree violence never is the answer.
Evil will not always win and good is not dumb!! And people say I'm cynical! x
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Theeighthhorcrux
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| Posted: August 18, 2007 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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Because they're the consummate good guys. They're on the same side as the government, which means that they can't take crime and punishment into their own hands killing people who do wrong.
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wizardZorander
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| Posted: August 19, 2007 3:35 am Post subject: |
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| Because they're the consummate good guys. They're on the same side as the government, which means that they can't take crime and punishment into their own hands killing people who do wrong. |
Using the Killing Curse would conflict with their views, wouldn't it. |
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david_potter
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besides dusnt kilin sum1 rip ur soul apart? maybe they wantd their souls whole?
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word1234
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| Posted: August 21, 2007 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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| besides dusnt kilin sum1 rip ur soul apart? maybe they wantd their souls whole? |
No, murdering someone rips your soul apart. You don't have to use avada kedavra to commit murder. And killing someone in self-defense or some other dire situation isn't exactly murder. As for the Order using avada kedavra, we know for a fact Kingsley didn't. He said he injured two, you can't injure with that curse, and might have killed one. When using avada kedavra there's no doubt about whether they're dead or not. There's no real conclusive evidence for any of the others. |
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I believe the Order as its name is to create Order in the world not by killing people but showing the what they were doing was wrong, but as time went by death eaters became much more stronger, and being tactless by killing won't help, just think this, what if Harry killed wormtail when he had the chance?? would he still be alive??? think... and you will find ur answer.
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| Posted: August 21, 2007 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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I think they're trying to prove the unforgivable curses are wrong.
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| Posted: August 22, 2007 12:58 am Post subject: |
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| simply because it's illegal and after all they don't need to kill them, they can erase they memory or at least part of it, and after that they can be "normal" people |
Or put them in Azkaban.
I agree with how you have said it. It's the principle of the matter, they are illigal.
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