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Posts: 28371 · Posted: May 16, 2007 12:10 pm Post subject: Some questions about the tournament

there was an audience to watch the tournament, right? well, apart from the first task, there was nothing to watch, since in the second task, the champions were down under the lake, and in the third task, they were in a maze.

why the hell was there an audience?

also, if harry learned the summoning charm to get his broomstick, why didnt he just accio the golden egg? that would have saved him time. perhaps, he could have just accioed his broomstick, and then the egg, and then fly on his broomstick before the horntail could catch him.
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Posts: 6608 · Joined: Nov 29, 2006 Posts: 6608

Good point about the Egg. I am assuming the audience was to watch the winner emerge from the task. This was discussed before. Maybe they has a magical screen you could watch from.
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Posts: 26976 · Posted: May 18, 2007 3:10 am Post subject:

The crowd was gathered to see the champions emerge from the lake. Im guessing they cheered the champions on as they submerged, hu7ng around for an hour, talking, laughing, placing bets. And then waited in anticipation for the champions to come up from the lake.

He couldn't accio the egg because the second the dragonsaw her egg move she would have been all over it. That was why the Champions all had to distract the dragon somehow. Cedric distracted the Dragon with a rock turned into a dog, while Krum tried to impair it's eyes. Harry summoned his broom and tried to gett he dragon away from the egg while keeping it's attention on him. While the dragon was good and annoyed, Harry swooped in and grabbed it.
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Posts: 28371 · Posted: May 18, 2007 6:06 am Post subject:

no but once he had managed to lure her out of her nest, why didnt he just say accio golden egg, instead of personally diving down there and waste precious time.
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Posts: 26976 · Posted: May 21, 2007 1:31 am Post subject:

Because maybe his Firebolt moves faster than the Accio charm. The firebolt accelerates 150 mph in 10 seconds, I doubt the egg would move that fast if he Accioed it.
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Posts: 6608 · Joined: Nov 29, 2006 Posts: 6608

Good point ^^^^^
Also, it might have been against the rules.
Would you like to read a book that lame anyway ?
Accio egg !!!!! task 1 is now over.
wo0o0o lets celebrate !!! NOT !

lol.
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Posts: 28371 · Posted: May 22, 2007 6:16 am Post subject:

of course it would be lame, if you were the reader. but it would be smarter if harry did that. i mean, when you accio, you make the thing go to you. so both he and the egg could meet halfway, thereby saving time.
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Posts: 3442 · Posted: May 22, 2007 3:59 pm Post subject:

I think the reason other than the dragon would kill you before the egg got to you by using "accio", I think they but counter spells to not allow them to use a simple such as the summon spell... Kinda how Fred and George couldnt fool the age line with the aging potion.

Imagine a big task such as that defeated at the hands of the summoning charm... to easy and not enough brains... that and it could be dangerous to use the spell because of the dragon...

Just my after thoughts of the whole ordeal...

Posts: 28371 · Posted: May 22, 2007 10:21 pm Post subject:

maybe... but Moody simply said "you are allowed a wand". which suggests to me that you can do anything to get that egg for as long as you dont do an illegal curse or something.
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Maybe there was some kind of protection on the egg so that you could not just call for it.
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Posts: 28371 · Posted: May 24, 2007 8:37 am Post subject:

that was never mentioned, nor is there any reason to believe that you cant.
and harry never even tried it so as to find out if that would work.
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Posts: 26976 · Posted: May 26, 2007 1:41 am Post subject:

Posts: 28371 · Posted: May 26, 2007 8:06 am Post subject:

no what i meant was when the dragon started chasing him already. if the dragon was still there, then no. so yeah, good one, he distracted it. but one she flew towards him, he should have accioed to egg so as to prevent additional injuries that would result with the longer period of time that he was flying from the dragon. so while the dragon was at his back chasing him, he should have accioed the egg and flown away. then charlie and his gang could stun the dragon before she could do any more damage to harry.
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Posts: 26976 · Posted: May 27, 2007 8:26 pm Post subject:

It was faster for him to swoop in and snatch it than for him to ait for the egg to reach him after summoning it. If the dragon spotted the egg before it reached Harry, then the dragon would have interfered with the egg. Then Harry wouldn't have the egg.
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Posts: 8666 · Joined: Nov 12, 2005 Posts: 8666

Really, no one knows if the Accio or the Firebolt was faster. I personally think that a Firebolt would be faster because of the way JK describes it.

Posts: 3282 · Posted: May 27, 2007 8:33 pm Post subject:

i would think that the egg would possess some magic qualities, making it immune to some magical spells, and probably summoning was one of them. after all, dragons are really rare and expensive.
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You have a good point. I don't think they would transport and extra dragon to Hogwarts just for you to summon the egg.

Posts: 28371 · Posted: May 28, 2007 8:13 am Post subject:

but not even harry knew that. if you dont know that they cant be summoned, then you will think of accioing it. and yeah, while the firebolt may be faster, what i am trying to say is that it will be even faster if harry accioed the egg, so that they met in the middle. the dragon would be behind him, while the egg in front. therefore the dragon cannot interfere with the egg when it is summoned by harry.
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Posts: 8666 · Joined: Nov 12, 2005 Posts: 8666

Well, I personally think JK doesn't care. He got the egg, and he was tied for first place. I doubt being 1 second faster would have mattered.

Posts: 52 · Joined: May 22, 2007 Posts: 52

I think the point was to get past the dragon. I couldn't swear to it, but I think the task was given as, "Get past the dragon, place the egg in the sack."

Personally, I think using the egg as the clue to the second task was the more inconceivable part of the story. How, exactly, was anyone supposed to stumble on the notion that you had to listen to it under water? Who would ever think of that? Question

Posts: 28371 · Posted: May 31, 2007 3:19 am Post subject:

fine never mind about the first task. i actually had the vision of the dragon flying behind harry and the egg in front of him. its pointless anyway since its not that important. but that is what i wouldve done if i were harry. accio egg, then ill fly away. let charlie deal with the fuming dragon.

anyway, yeah, who the hell would think of that? did cedric, krum, and fleur happen to shower with their eggs and harry and we were simply stupid enough not to think of bathing with an egg?
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Posts: 52 · Joined: May 22, 2007 Posts: 52

Well, Cederic was tipped off by Crouch/Moody, but if nobody cheated...

All in all, I think GOF was the weakest book. Although I put JKR up there with E.B. White, C.S. Lewis - great classic authors of all time. But we all have an off day...or year. Wink

GOF had more things that weren't too logical than other books.

I also had thought, "What the heck was everybody watching while the two last tasks were going on?" We know there couldn't have been a magical screen of sorts, because then everyone would have known what had gone on in both cases. I figure it was maybe like Preakness - bring your butterbeer and your chocolate frogs and party for an hour! Laughing

Posts: 28371 · Posted: May 31, 2007 8:31 am Post subject:

yeah thats what i think too. my least fave book was book5, but it still had more logic than the fourth book. but i still love them all. Very Happy

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Posts: 472 · Posted: July 3, 2007 2:16 pm Post subject:

Hmm I;m not sure about the audience thing.. But maybe they put an enchantment on the Golden egg so champions couldn't summon it?
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Posts: 28 · Joined: Jul 24, 2007 Posts: 28

They Wouldnt Have Been able To Summon It,

They Would Have Tried It..

To Obviouse That It Wouldnt Work..

Everyone Shoulds Know That!
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