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i think there is a bit of inconsistency here. DD said that after voldie applied for DADA post and was rejeted by DD himself, no DADA professor has been able to last more than a year. we see it in HP that no DADA professor lasts for more than a year.

but what about quirrell? i think quirrell was working as DADA prof since before harry went to hogwarts. i mean, percy knew him. when harry firstt laid eyes on snape during the feast, and his scar hurt, he asked percy who that teacher was talking to quirrell, and percy said oh, so you knopw professor quirrell already? no wonder he's trembling. that's professor snape. or something like that.

and hagrid also knew quirrell, when they met with harry at the leaky cauldron.

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no isnt proffessor Quirrell introduced as the new DADA teacher
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No Dumbledore did not say and our new DADA teacher is... but maybe he was appointed from one subject to DADA at the end of the previous year.

So for example maybe he was the care of magical creatures teacher and at the end of that year it was announced that he would be the DADA teacher in Harry's first year.

It's just an example.
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yep, that is possible
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Posts: 28373 · Posted: April 25, 2007 12:54 am Post subject:

but dd dindt annouce that. he should have annoucned that "our new dada teacher is none other than our previous care of magical creatures professor, Sir Dimwit Quirrell!"

he did not. so i am presuming that he was an old teacher in DADA already.

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Percy is a prefect i think him and all the others would know about it
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Posts: 28373 · Posted: April 28, 2007 4:25 am Post subject:

but neither ron nor hermione knew about slughorn. and they were prefects by book6. neither did they know about umbridge when they were prefects in book5.

and even if percy did know quirrell, dd ought to have said, "i have a new announcement. professor quirell will be our new dada prof."

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Well here's a possibility:

Supposing he taught for one year earlier, and took a year off to get experience. Then when he met Voldy, it can be assumed he was ordered back to Hogwarts. Voldy probably temporarily lifted the curse.

Posts: 28373 · Posted: April 30, 2007 7:32 am Post subject:

maybe, but dd would still announce, "we are happy to have back professor quirrell as DADA teacher." or something like that. he didnt. that suggests to me as though there is a continuity in quirrell's position and that there is no need to make such announces that "he has returned", or that "he has shifted from care of magical creatures teacer to DADA".

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I just think that Quirrel had some other job in the castle beforehand and Dumbledore didn't mention it.

Besides, you have to let something like this go. JK probably had no idea how she was going to explain the fact that they can't keep a DADA teacher for more than a year when she wrote book #1.
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Posts: 2523 · Posted: May 7, 2007 7:31 pm Post subject:

Maybe they were just too lazy for a job.
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Posts: 3442 · Posted: May 7, 2007 11:14 pm Post subject:

I think Quirrel had been at Hogwarts as a DADA for more than one year because.

1. Dumbledore didn't announce anything about a new teacher in the first book.

2. Percy new who he was and I think Hagrid introduced him as a professor.

3. I also have a hunch that the position of DADA didn't become cursed until Harry started attending Hogwarts. Once he did, Voldemort was trying to come back and gain power once more.

4. I have found many things in the series where someone says something and its the popular belief. So when people say that the DADA position has been cursed since Voldemort got denied the job may have been gossip and outstretched theory.

Posts: 28373 · Posted: May 8, 2007 2:53 am Post subject:

yeah you know it probably started getting jinxed ever since harry stepped into hogwarts. i mean look, the reason why the professors leave is because of them! in book 1, he uncovered the fact that quirrell was voldie's servant. in book 2, lockhart's wand (well, actually ron's) backfired since he was trying to modify their memories since they brought him into the chamber. in book 3, they uncovered the fact that lupin was a werewolf, and snape blurted it out to everyone because he was so mad because harry and hermione set sirius free. in book 4, the dada teacher turned out to be voldie's servant. in book 5, umbridge was trampled upon by the centaurs because harry and hermione led her there. in book 6, well, it wasnt entirely harry's doing, but perhaps it is also because of harry so that he can eventaully face voldie that dd asked snape to kill him. while im not saying that harry's actions are bad, i am merely stating that the dada teachers do not last a year because of him and his ability to uncover secrets.

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Well i would say that Quirrell was originally teaching something different..and knew they needed a new DADA teacher..so he took a year off to get experience in the matter before he came back..but regardless he didnt teach it two years in a row obviously

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i do not know i think that we are only going to hear about hogwats just i lit tel bit in the next book
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Posts: 27224 · Posted: May 9, 2007 5:26 am Post subject:

Didn't he take a year off to travel... and that's when he came across Voldemort? Maybe he took off the previous year, but was at Hogwarts the year before that.
That might work because a) Percy, along with most other students and staff, would know him and b) no teacher did last more than a year consecutively
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Posts: 28373 · Posted: May 9, 2007 3:44 pm Post subject:

that's what ive been trying to clarify. dumbledore would have made an announcement, whether quirrell was a new teacher, or whether he had been teaching a different subject before, or whether he had finally returned from his travelling. but he did not. this suggests that quirrell had been teaching DADA the year before harry entered hogwarts.
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okay, whether or not Quirrell was introduced properly or not introduced at all

at the end of this book, it was explained that NO TEACHER WHATSOEVER taught more than a year of Defense Against Dark Arts.
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okay, whether or not Quirrell was introduced properly or not introduced at all

at the end of this book, it was explained that NO TEACHER WHATSOEVER taught more than a year of Defense Against Dark Arts.

Posts: 28373 · Posted: May 14, 2007 10:15 am Post subject:

im not saying that what harry did was undesirable. all i am saying is that he is the reason why these teachers left.

and so what is your point? that it was quirrell's first time to teach? i think vasaver has a point. it wasnt really voldie... it was harry.
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i really dont care how the teachers left after harry got there...but if jk wrote it in the book..then its fact..and we're pointless arguing over it

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