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PostPosted: March 30, 2007 11:10 am    Post subject: Possible clue to a horcrux Reply with quote

Okay so in one of my insomniac moods at 2am this morning I was laid in bed reading Prisoner of Azkaban (I'm re-reading the series) and eating lots of lollipops. Lollipops are a necessity for ex-smokers, I've recently quit and lolli's are a nice replacement.

Look at this part.....

Messrs. Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot, and Prongs
Purveyors of Aids to Magical Mischief-Makers are proud to present
THE MARAUDER'S MAP

It was a map showing every detail of the Hogwarts castle and grounds. But the truly remarkable thing were the tiny ink dots moving around it, each labeled with a name in minuscule writing. Astounded, Harry bent over it. A labeled dot in the top left corner showed that Professor Dumbledore was pacing his study; the caretaker's cat, Mrs. Norris, was prowling the second floor; and Peeves the Poltergeist was currently bouncing around the trophy room. And as Harry's eyes traveled up and down the familiar corridors, he noticed something else.

This map showed a set of passages he had never entered. And many of them seemed to lead -
"Right into Hogsmeade," said Fred, tracing one of them with his finger.
"There are seven in all. Now, Filch knows about these four" -- he
pointed them out -- "but we're sure we're the only ones who know about these. Don't bother with the one behind the mirror on the fourth floor.
We used it until last winter, but it's caved in -- completely blocked
.



Does this one throw away comment strike anyone as odd?

This secret tunnel in Hogwarts caved in the winter before according to the twins.

So lets think, what was happening the year previous.... Lord Voldemort was opening the chamber of secrets and wreaking havoc with the basilisk through poor little Ginny Weasley and the horcrux which he himself made whilst still at school

Dumbledores research strongly indicates that Voldemort has a magpie tendency for historically accredited objects; objects interlaced with any of the house founders.

Its therefore plausible to suggest that perhaps Voldemort found other secrets/relics whilst at the school or perhaps just decided to hide a part of his soul there. We know Riddle had discovered how to make Horcruxes at this age, was prepared to do what was necessary for them and that he was the first for many years to find the hidden chamber of secrets. No small feat for a sixteen year old.

Suppose he made and hid another horcrux at Hogwarts whilst there, and when he began possessing Ginny decided to wander the school grounds for a while.....

Upon his wanderings (in Ginny's body) he notices that there are students wandering near or around his Horcrux in what he thought was a secret tunnel, he may even have espied the Marauders Map whilst Fred & George used it....That cannot happen, he must either;

1) Crumble the tunnel to leave the horcrux unfound forever, with only a small entrance which only he can access/open (or so he thinks) should he ever need to remove it.

2) Remove the horcrux through Ginny.......which could mean that Ginny unwittingly possesses a memory of the path to one of Voldemorts horcruxes.

This is all conjecture of course, I merely found it interesting because the COS was the first book to introduce the horcruxes (although we didn't know that) JK stated that COS had many ties to books 6 & 7.....could this be one of them??

Is there are Horcrux hidden beneath Hogwarts, or does Ginny have information stored in her memories that she simply cannot remember?

It has been suggested that the cave in was due to Lockharts unhappy accident with Rons wand. But that is not possible.

The cave in had to precede the showdown at the Chamber of Secrets, (it is fortunate I have recently read this too lol)

The twins said 'last winter' was when they were forced to stop using the tunnel, and the climax of that year did not occur until the end of the school year which is in the summer (and still in the same year that they would begin their next term)

The trouble with the COS begun on the Halloween feast of the year before, and the cave in happened some time in the following winter. Winter beginning on December 21st (the solstice) and lasting 3 months (thankgod for wikipedia)

So as a time line..

August 1992 - Ginny was 'given' Riddles diary.

Halloween 1992 - The first strike of the basilisk (poor Mrs Norris lol)

December 21st 1992 - March 21st 1993 Winter period, the cave in happened sometime in this period.

May/June 1993 - Harry takes on the Riddle in COS. The reason we know it was close to the end of year was because of the students utter shock that they would be sitting year end exams.

But something happened in their first lesson, Transfiguration, that drove
the Chamber of Secrets out of their minds for the first time in weeks.
Ten minutes into the class, Professor McGonagall told them that their
exams would start on the first of June, one week from today. `Exams?" howled Seamus Finnigan. "We're still getting exams?"
There was a loud bang behind Harry as Neville Longbottom's wand
slipped, vanishing one of the legs on his desk. Professor
McGonagall restored it with a wave of her own wand, and turned,
frowning, to Seamus.
"The whole point of keeping the school open at this time is for you to
receive your education, " she said sternly. "The exams will therefore
take place as usual, and I trust you are all studying hard."
Studying hard! It had never occurred to Harry that there would be
exams with the castle in this state. There was a great deal of mutinous
muttering around the room, which made Professor McGonagall scowl
even more darkly.
"Professor Dumbledore's instructions were to keep the school running
as normally as possible, she said. "And that, I need hardly point out,
means finding out how much you have learned this year.


This renders our cave in as an obsolete incident. So why did it cave in??
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PostPosted: March 30, 2007 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont think that blocking that cave was really a
"horcurx" because at the time, if you recall, Sirius Black was on the loose and they probably found that secret passage and blocked it so he wouldnt get into Hogwarts...althought i do not completley disagree with you. you said that Fred and George said it had been blocked last winter...well wouldnt it be a bit fishy if the cave had been blocked in Harrys second year? the time where Voldemort returned to school and opened a chamber releasing horrifying and deadly things? maybe when eh returend he made a horcrux, hid it in the cave, and then blocked it so no one, and by no one i mean dumbledore because Voldemort knew if Dumbledore got his hands on it he would kill it, would get it.
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PostPosted: April 2, 2007 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can't really believe Voldemort would put a horcrux in a tunnel. That would be too easy. All his horcruxes takes an effort to find.
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PostPosted: April 2, 2007 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree. Confused
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PostPosted: April 2, 2007 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats why I said possible clue to a Horcrux, I find it suspicious that a cave in occurred for what seems to be no apparent reason during the book we first unwittingly encounter Horcruxes. Even if a Horcrux isn't down there it is a profitable line of enquiry, as good as any other.

It could be a path or a clue to the next Horcrux, some people have suggested that the tunnel leads to Aberforths pub in Hogsmeade. Frankly, it is largely conjecture and yes you can just blow it out of the water like many other theories but it does have some merit; forgive me for wanting to ponder about something other than R.A.B and Harry is a Horcrux editorials, heaven forbid.
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PostPosted: April 2, 2007 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still stand with what i said before...I dont blieve ur theory is totally impossible but very unlilkley
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PostPosted: April 2, 2007 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arwen wrote:
You can't really believe Voldemort would put a horcrux in a tunnel. That would be too easy. All his horcruxes takes an effort to find.


Hence why I said possible clue to a Horcrux, it doesn't necessarily have to be down there - its just fun to think about the possibilities of what was down the tunnel or if it was used for any dark puroses before it caved.
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PostPosted: April 2, 2007 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the most reason why it was blocked in is because perhaps filch found students doing illegal things or smuggling candy or toys from Hogsmead. nothing very serious
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