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PostPosted: March 29, 2007 11:14 am    Post subject: A loop Hole In the Prophecy? Reply with quote

Ok. So i was thinking. The prophecy talks about one living while the other dies. I keep seeing people saying "there both going to die" They have good theory's don't get me wrong...It's just the theory's (to me) are always cut short because of the prophecy. So cooking my self some soup down stairs i started to think about it...Theres a damn loop hole in the prophecy.

This is just a silly theory of mine. It might or might not be true but fun to discuss.

Harry "the chosen one" will kill off the rest of voldemorts souls has planned. Thats the power that was transfered into him the night he attacked Harry's house. What IF Harry dies fighting the last soul. Then the prophecy comes true. Then (weakened from the battle. He is a feeble little soul.) He is killed by(please don't laugh) Hagrid or Nevil.


Sounds funny but wouldn't it be the ultimate revenge? Hagrid has always been wrong footed his whole life because of what Tom Riddle did that night. It has also impacted is future (he was sent to azkaban) Hagrid has alway been looked down upon his life because Voldemort tricked everyone to him being a murderer.

Nevil would have his revenge on his parents (and he COULD have been the chosen one if Voldemort didn't pick Harry) He (like Harry) had to live his life without parents and are stuck with people who think they were imperfect. ( the Dursleys and Nevil's grandma.)

Thank Voldemort for that.
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PostPosted: March 29, 2007 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea something like that is deffinately going to happen, minus maybe harry dying
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PostPosted: March 29, 2007 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Paintballs theorie is true and Neville actually is the chosen one and not Harry (and to add my theorie: Snape didn't give Voldemort the whole theorie)...

Neville is getting stronger...
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PostPosted: March 29, 2007 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only thing that troubles me about your point is. Dumbledore says that Harry IS the chosen one. He was marked.

Do you have any ideas on that?
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PostPosted: March 29, 2007 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im betting that by the end of book 7, everything DD has ever said will either be right or wrong, and im sure that everything he said is right.
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PostPosted: March 30, 2007 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't mean to be disrespectful but if Hagird or Neville kills Harry by ACCIDENT, this is what I picture happening.

"Aye, Sorry 'Arry fer killin' yu off ye know? Bloody di'in't mean any 'arm"

But you're doing some really good brainstorming!
It sounds like you have potter speculation fever!

105 more days till the movie.
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PostPosted: March 30, 2007 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chunice wrote:
I don't mean to be disrespectful but if Hagird or Neville kills Harry by ACCIDENT, this is what I picture happening.

"Aye, Sorry 'Arry fer killin' yu off ye know? Bloody di'in't mean any 'arm"

But you're doing some really good brainstorming!
It sounds like you have potter speculation fever!

105 more days till the movie.


LOL!!! you gave me such a good laugh!!!!! LOL

Sorry 'Arry lmao!

that was good!
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PostPosted: March 30, 2007 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

come on guys, we all know that neville is goin to be the HERO

but it is a good theory
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PostPosted: March 31, 2007 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

icesk8erqueen8 wrote:
come on guys, we all know that neville is goin to be the HERO

but it is a good theory


I dont think Neville will take all the glory but he will play a big part...so i donno..becase see harrys and nevilles destinies could have been switched so easily if Voldemorrt just decided to choose to kill Nevilles parents..

so i donno
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PostPosted: April 2, 2007 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DD said that Harry was the "Chosen One" we know that because Harry was Marked. If Neville was marked then he would be the chosen one. The Prophecy states".... And the Dark Lord will mark him as his Equal...." That right there means that Neville CANT be the "Chosen One." And, i cant remember, but I think that Harry never told Neville about the prophcey..I think Neville will play a BIG role in the upcoming book but I dont think he hold all the Glory.
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PostPosted: April 3, 2007 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harry is the Chosen One not because of the mark but because Voldemort chose him to be the one and marked him. Neville I believe will play a bigger part in book 7. Showing Voldemort that he could have made a mistake.
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PostPosted: April 3, 2007 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But what if Neville is the chosen one and Harry is just a trap set up by DD? (or bait for a trap).

I don't know, I think either Harry or Neville will die.
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PostPosted: April 3, 2007 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah Lord Volde Marked Harry so that means it is Harry as the Chosen one...
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PostPosted: April 5, 2007 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I think there is a possibility even though how remote it would seem that maybe Neville will be the one to kill LV. Maybe he'll be too concentrated on Harry, looking the wrong way and Neville will just pop up and hit him one in the back. Razz
Dumbledore may have interpreted it wrong in the first place because even though LV picked Harry and well we know how that turned out for him, it didn't kill him altogether. So it could still be Neville the one to do it in the end.
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PostPosted: April 5, 2007 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LV didn't know who to chose. 50% chance he chose the right one. How would DD know if he chose the right one. The only reason Neville isn't so smart is he takes drugs. (everyone knows he grows weed in Herbology) LMAO.
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PostPosted: April 5, 2007 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ilya150 wrote:
The only reason Neville isn't so smart is he takes drugs. (everyone knows he grows weed in Herbology) LMAO.


Good one! Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: April 5, 2007 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still laughing
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PostPosted: April 5, 2007 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no way harry is def. the chosen one there is no question about it. Voldemort MADE him the chosen one because he picked the one he thought would be the most fear to him. He picked harry because harry was like him THEREFORE harry is def the chosen one.

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PostPosted: April 5, 2007 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats what ive been trying to tell them
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PostPosted: April 7, 2007 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dumbledore made up the prophecy to draw Voldemort out and give himself and Harry a better chance to kill Voldemort.
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PostPosted: April 7, 2007 11:02 am    Post subject: Re: A loop Hole In the Prophecy? Reply with quote

you know what i really do not think that htere is a loop hole in the prophecy.....because i think that j.k.rowling would have thought all of this out befor she put it in the book...or now that i think about it she could have made it that way for pupuse i do not know we will have to read the book and we will all have to see what happense in the harry potter world!
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PostPosted: April 7, 2007 1:22 pm    Post subject: Re: A loop Hole In the Prophecy? Reply with quote

i do no think that there is one
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PostPosted: April 10, 2007 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I enjoyed reading your theory!! and i hadnt realized that before... actually.. i dont look at it as harry may die... the prophecy saying that if one lives the other will die.. that gives me hope that harry will live!! and that makes me a happy little elf!!
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PostPosted: April 10, 2007 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hOuSeLf wrote:
I enjoyed reading your theory!! and i hadnt realized that before... actually.. i dont look at it as harry may die... the prophecy saying that if one lives the other will die.. that gives me hope that harry will live!! and that makes me a happy little elf!!


lol well i agree with you Very Happy, we all know that harry is the chosen one and will not die then right?

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PostPosted: April 11, 2007 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am rooting for harry to be the chosen one, but as far as being "marked", we know for sure harry has a scar, but we don't know for sure about neville - he is definately scarred mentally by the torture of his parents, but do we know he does not have some physical mark we haven't seen yet.
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