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Helena Ravenclaw
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PostPosted: August 15, 2008 2:17 am    Post subject: Snape's loyalty Reply with quote
at last severus snape proves his loyalty to dumbledore...but does it worth it?
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PostPosted: August 15, 2008 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
what do you mean is it worth it? you mean worth dying? I'd say it was...he died doing something for the woman he loved.

and somebody may want to edit a dh spoiler warning in
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PostPosted: August 16, 2008 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
So worth it...
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PostPosted: August 16, 2008 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
IF he hadn't, then his life after Harry defeated Voldemort (we allkow it would have happened somehow) wouldn't have even been worth living.
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PostPosted: August 16, 2008 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
crosscountry2 wrote:
So worth it...


I agree Very Happy
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PostPosted: August 17, 2008 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Snape did it for Lily, he loves her with all his heart, the old teased schoolboy is remembered and Harry even knows his loyalty. Mentioned in 19 Years Later, "Severus. Albus. Both were great wizards"
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PostPosted: August 19, 2008 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I don't think Snape's loyalty was to Dumbledore, Harry, Hogwarts or Voldemort. He was only looking out for his best interest & that was Lily, he didn't care about James or Harry.

He turned to Dumbledore only out of deperation because he knew that once he told the portion of the proficy that he heard that the Potters were marked for death and that Dumbledore was the only one who could possilby stop Voldemort.
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PostPosted: August 20, 2008 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
lunalunalooney wrote:
I don't think Snape's loyalty was to Dumbledore, Harry, Hogwarts or Voldemort. He was only looking out for his best interest & that was Lily, he didn't care about James or Harry.

He turned to Dumbledore only out of deperation because he knew that once he told the portion of the proficy that he heard that the Potters were marked for death and that Dumbledore was the only one who could possilby stop Voldemort.


That is true in one way, but because of Lily, Snape never went way far to the dark-side. I believe he was loyal to Dumbledore; no one else.

And yes, it was worth him dying because how could you honestly live after all that?
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PostPosted: August 24, 2008 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
lunalunalooney wrote:
I don't think Snape's loyalty was to Dumbledore, Harry, Hogwarts or Voldemort. He was only looking out for his best interest & that was Lily, he didn't care about James or Harry.

He turned to Dumbledore only out of deperation because he knew that once he told the portion of the proficy that he heard that the Potters were marked for death and that Dumbledore was the only one who could possilby stop Voldemort.



I'm with you on that one. He didn't seem to care too much about harry.
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PostPosted: August 24, 2008 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yeah, he didn't care for Harry all to much but I do think he was loyal to Dumbledore because
Spoiler:

he gave him his memories so Harry would know and understand the full meaning behind why Snape killed DD, what he, Harry, had to do in the end when he confronted Voldy, and blah blah blah other stuff relating to Snape's memories such as his love for Harry's mother and the Doe that led them to the sword, etc.



But I don't know, he must've liked Harry a bit to let him know such personal things not relating to the Order or DD.
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PostPosted: August 25, 2008 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
it's definitely worth it..but it's funny how I also had a feeling that he was good somehow..i guess that feeling turned out right Shocked
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PostPosted: August 25, 2008 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It was worth it. But even though he was loyal to Dumbledore hes not really good, he does everything for his own gain. He only asks Voldermort to let Lily live so he can be with her, not caring what she wants. Then he protects Harry to try and get over the grief and guilt of Lily's death. But i guess u gotta feel sorry for him seein as he'll never be happy, whatever he does, and he did do the right thing in the end
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PostPosted: August 25, 2008 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It was worth it
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PostPosted: August 29, 2008 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Snape is loyal to anyone who promises to give him what he wants.

He was loyal to the Dark Lord when he thought Lily was to be spared.

Then he chose to be loyal to Dumbledore because he wants to protect Lily's son.

All Snape ever wanted was to be with Lily Crying
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PostPosted: August 30, 2008 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Severus loved Lilly.
Lilly married James.
Snape tried to save Lilly.
Every time he saw harry was a reminder of (in Snapes mind) the reason Lilly was dead. James.
Snape WAS faithful to Dumbledore. Didn't you read the book? He refused to kill Dumbledore. I'm sure Snape did like Harry a little. He was Lillys son.
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PostPosted: August 30, 2008 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Severus cared for Harry in the way that he was Lily's son. He did not like him at all; in fact, he actually hated him, despised him because he reminded of him of James. Snape however never wanted Harry dead, since this way he would feel that he would kill Lily twice. I am sure Snape saw it in his mind that it was his own fault that Lily died, thus felt guilty towards the woman he loved - but he in no way in hell liked Harry, and that I think is clearly seen in the books. Razz

His devotion to Dumbledore was as far as Lily would go. He knew Dumbledore was the only man that could counter Voldemort's tricks efficiently, thus trusted him only because he could save the Potters. In the third book, in the chapter where the Gryffindors are sleeping in the Great Hall, Snape "looks at Dumbledore with a glance of dislike" or whatever. It is a mix of Dumbledore hiring Remus Lupin and the fact that, no offence, Snape always blames others for his mistakes - he probably saw it was that Dumbledore broke some kind of vow since he couldn't protect Lily. In his eyes, the exterior, it's everyone's fault but his. It is Dumbledore's, Pettigrew's, Voldemort's, James', but he is innocent. xD

Although I know he's a clever man and he deep inside knows who is the real man that brought all this in.
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PostPosted: August 30, 2008 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think snape was loyal to dumbledore because of lily. he loved her very much, and dumbledore was the only one he could face after voldy killed her. after all, dumbledore was probably the only one who could understand what he was going through. its so sad when he died *sniff* Crying
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PostPosted: September 11, 2008 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
^^ I kno i really hated Snape, but after reading the last book i was hella shocked, but i still don't like him though, i juss think a little better of him.
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PostPosted: September 11, 2008 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nicholas Flamell wrote:
^^ I kno i really hated Snape, but after reading the last book i was hella shocked, but i still don't like him though, i juss think a little better of him.


A little better of him? Are you kidding! He's a HERO!!! He's one of my FAVOURITE characters now!
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PostPosted: September 11, 2008 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
What do you mean, is it worth it? Of course it is! Everyone finally finds out that Snape did everythnig to protect Harry! Everyone knows that he was on the good side!
Snape is absolutely my favorite character! I love him! He really turned out to be a hero, he just had a hard life. I simply love the way Rowling writes abouyt him. It`s so much fun to read!
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