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Avada Kedavra
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 Posted: July 16, 2007 12:01 pm Post subject: Mundungus and the stolen Goblets |
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There has to be something about those goblets Mundungus stole. Im not saying there horcrux of eather voldmort or sirius, but i think they will be important in the seventh book, or why would J.K.R have brought them up twice.
Anybody have any idea has to why they are important. |
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hazzard
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| Posted: July 16, 2007 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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well im actually not too sure. i feel that the only reason jk rowling put mundugus and his 10 finger discount is to show how irresponsible he is...perhaps it will be another snape ordeal....showing at the end that he CAN be trusted when he does something like actually doing what hes told for once...you know? 
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Avada Kedavra
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| Posted: July 16, 2007 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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| I was also thinking that maybe he was put their to be shown as a theif for voldmort who may have discovered a "mysterious locket" was located at the black house. |
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Arabella
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| Posted: July 16, 2007 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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well he was having his little transaction with the barman of the hogshead...who we know is Aberforth Dumbledore. and as he walked away he pulled his collar up over his neck, I think he was sold the locket. as for the goblets...they are red herrings.
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Unilover
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| Posted: July 16, 2007 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Arabella wrote: |
| well he was having his little transaction with the barman of the hogshead...who we know is Aberforth Dumbledore. and as he walked away he pulled his collar up over his neck, I think he was sold the locket. as for the goblets...they are red herrings. |
I'm sorry this could be stupidity on my part. How do we know that the barman is Aberforth Dumbledore? |
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Arabella
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| Posted: July 16, 2007 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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No its not stupidity, its somewhat obscure. It was in some interview with JK...let me see if I can find it.
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Why is the barman of the Hog’s Head vaguely familiar to Harry? Is he Dumbledore’s brother?
Ooh—you are getting good. Why do you think that it is Aberforth? [Audience member: Various clues. He smells of goats and he looks a bit like Dumbledore]. I was quite proud of that clue. That is all that I am going to say. [Laughter]. Well yes, obviously. I like the goat clue—I sniggered to myself about that one. |
http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/en/news_view.cfm?id=80
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charliegaridel
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| Posted: July 16, 2007 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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| when do they say the barman looks familiar? |
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Arabella
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| Posted: July 16, 2007 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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when they went into the Hogshead in OotP...Harry says he looks oddly familiar or something similar to that, same time it is said the bar smells like goats. Its also great that they put a goat in the hogshead in the movie. I laughed out loud.
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charliegaridel
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| Posted: July 16, 2007 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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| ok, now where do we get the idea that the barman is dumbledores brother? |
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Arabella
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| Posted: July 16, 2007 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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No its not stupidity, its somewhat obscure. It was in some interview with JK...let me see if I can find it.
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Why is the barman of the Hog’s Head vaguely familiar to Harry? Is he Dumbledore’s brother?
Ooh—you are getting good. Why do you think that it is Aberforth? [Audience member: Various clues. He smells of goats and he looks a bit like Dumbledore]. I was quite proud of that clue. That is all that I am going to say. [Laughter]. Well yes, obviously. I like the goat clue—I sniggered to myself about that one. |
http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/en/news_view.cfm?id=80 |
straight from the horses mouth, read all the posts before posting please
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SammyTee
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| Posted: July 16, 2007 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Hm... I don't think Voldemort would hire whatshisname, because he doesn't even know anyone has stolen his locket horocrux. |
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Avada Kedavra
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| Posted: July 16, 2007 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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| maybe mundungus is wokring for Regulus black who isnt really dead, and bringing him stuff from the black house, or maybe even working for sirius who may also be not realy dead, but in hideing |
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Arabella
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| Posted: July 16, 2007 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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I'd be more willing to believe Regulus than Sirius. actually I wouldn't believe the sirius part at all. but the regulus part is interesting.
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Avada Kedavra
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| Posted: July 16, 2007 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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| I mean does the book ever say how he actuly died and did anybody actuly see regulus death. Regulus would make more sence, seeing how the not in the fake locket was signed R.A.B |
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sonaudio
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| Posted: July 17, 2007 12:03 am Post subject: my speculation |
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i think, assuming that RAB is Regulus and that the locket was at 12Grim
that he was put in there to have stolen the locket, a simple plot twist and adventure for book seven. He has no idea about it, but he simply stole the locket with all his other possessions. |
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bays-nz
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| Posted: July 17, 2007 3:31 am Post subject: Re: my speculation |
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| sonaudio wrote: |
i think, assuming that RAB is Regulus and that the locket was at 12Grim
that he was put in there to have stolen the locket, a simple plot twist and adventure for book seven. He has no idea about it, but he simply stole the locket with all his other possessions. |
I agree. i think they will figure it out to discover it is missing. Hence major complications for the hunt |
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Unilover
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| Posted: July 17, 2007 7:35 am Post subject: |
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| Avada Kedavra wrote: |
| I mean does the book ever say how he actuly died and did anybody actuly see regulus death. Regulus would make more sence, seeing how the not in the fake locket was signed R.A.B |
Sirius said that Regulus was dead. Also, the note said something like "By the time you find this I'll be dead". I personally think that it was Regulus before he was murdered. I think JKR is just showing that Mundungus is a thief. |
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Avada Kedavra
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| Posted: July 17, 2007 11:17 am Post subject: |
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Sirius said that Regulus was dead. Also, the note said something like "By the time you find this I'll be dead". I personally think that it was Regulus before he was murdered. I think JKR is just showing that Mundungus is a thief. |
Oh yeah, but what if regulus told mundungus befor he died , what to do with the locket. |
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| Posted: July 17, 2007 11:48 am Post subject: |
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srry, but how do we know that regulus was alive to tell Mundugus what to do?? plus, he isnt really trustworthy...
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sbenson
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| Posted: July 17, 2007 11:52 am Post subject: |
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| If regulus was still alive than why and how did harry inherit the black family estate. When harry tells krecher to spy on malfoy, he does what he is told. The black family line is over. |
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Avada Kedavra
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| Posted: July 17, 2007 11:53 am Post subject: |
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| We dont know we are guesing. Hence the name of the forum Theories and Speculation. |
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Unilover
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| Posted: July 17, 2007 11:53 am Post subject: |
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Nobody's saying that Regulus is alive.
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Avada Kedavra
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| Posted: July 17, 2007 11:55 am Post subject: |
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| If regulus was still alive than why and how did harry inherit the black family estate. When harry tells krecher to spy on malfoy, he does what he is told. The black family line is over. |
That is a good point but is Regulus has been playing dead for several years, he most likely came up with ways that made him actuly apear dead. and krecher could be under Regulus order to be under harryes order. |
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Unilover
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| Posted: July 17, 2007 11:58 am Post subject: |
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No, he's dead. Dumbledore said that Kreacher would only obey Harry if he were the true heir. You can't get around that.
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sbenson
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| Posted: July 17, 2007 11:58 am Post subject: |
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| THat is a bit of a streach dont you think. this is the wizarding world and all of this including the death of sirius would have to be known. possible with a time turner but doubtful. Dumbledore seemed satisfied that when harry told krecher what to do it was settled |
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