What do you think should be done right now over in Iraq? Do you agree with Bush and what he is doing for the war?
And do you think 9/11 could have been prevented some say it could if security was not slacking that day. _________________
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What do you think should be done right now over in Iraq?
I think our government dug us into such a deep hole... I am no expert, so I can't really say what we should do since I don't have all the fact. However, those who do have the facts seem to be keeping the facts from us and digging our hole even deeper for us.
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Do you agree with Bush and what he is doing for the war?
As far as what Bush has done with this war... I think he misguided us and misled us and lied to us so much that I can't trust him anymore. And not just him, obviously, since most of his cabinent has up and quit on him.
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And do you think 9/11 could have been prevented some say it could if security was not slacking that day.
If not then, then another time, another way. There are plenty of ways for terrorists to act, and they did. Security is super high in places that still have terrorist acts every day...
Security wasn't slacking that day, imo... security had been slacking for awhile. And it still is. There is no perfect prevention against terrorism, although I wish there was. _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate ~ Bob Dylan Team Cucumber, FTW!
What do you think should be done right now over in Iraq? Do you agree with Bush and what he is doing for the war?
And do you think 9/11 could have been prevented some say it could if security was not slacking that day.
some people will probably disagree with me but i dont think Bush made the right choice for the war, i think it might have been prevented but i dont know how, there is always a chance... _________________ "For the greater good."
I think what ended up happening was a phenomenon called "groupthink":
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Groupthink is a type of thought exhibited by group members who try to minimize conflict and reach consensus without critically testing, analyzing, and evaluating ideas. During Groupthink, members of the group avoid promoting viewpoints outside the comfort zone of consensus thinking. A variety of motives for this may exist such as a desire to avoid being seen as foolish, or a desire to avoid embarrassing or angering other members of the group. Groupthink may cause groups to make hasty, irrational decisions, where individual doubts are set aside, for fear of upsetting the group’s balance.
I think Bush had the right idea. But they didn't analyze everything enough. Even they've said it over and over again.. they did not fully anticipate the difficulties of this war, and have created lots of ethics issues with the use of warrantless phonetapping and torture techniques.
I also think the war in Afghanistan highly contributed to wanting to take down Iraq as well. Afghanistan went great, and I believe that was a necessary front to take on. But then when the job was done, the job focused elsewhere when I don't think it should have. Bin laden's still in Afghanistan. _________________
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We really had to go into Iraq. After 9-11, being hit again like that was just inexcuseable, and no one was going to let it happen again. The mere threat of Saddam with WMD's was enough to galvanize much of the nation at the time. Now we're just waiting for these people to be ready to take control. I don't think there's any other way this could have happened. We go in, and there's an influx of terrorists from around the region to fight us. Then they get caught up in their own disagreements, paired with the fact that their own government isn't as strong as we figured it would be....well, there's not much we can do about it. Bush was dealt a crappy hand, and while he could have played it better, it's hard to ask for perfection. _________________ "If you're going through hell, keep going."
ALOT of people will disagree with me and i don't blame them if they think my opinion is far-fetched..
Well what i think is that 9/11 was orginized my Bush for having a reason to go into a war. The real thing he was after in Iraq was the oil and the money. Now because of this war he has made the world hate a religeon.
Many people now say that he has done te right thing by attacking Iraq. But OPEN UR EYES people. He's killed nearly 1 million people by attacking Iraq and afghanistan. Innocent people, not terrorists. People call the people who are defending Iraq terrorists, but whos attacking Iraq? Bush. _________________
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ALOT of people will disagree with me and i don't blame them if they think my opinion is far-fetched..
Well what i think is that 9/11 was orginized my Bush for having a reason to go into a war. The real thing he was after in Iraq was the oil and the money. Now because of this war he has made the world hate a religeon.
Many people now say that he has done te right thing by attacking Iraq. But OPEN UR EYES people. He's killed nearly 1 million people by attacking Iraq and afghanistan. Innocent people, not terrorists. People call the people who are defending Iraq terrorists, but whos attacking Iraq? Bush.
And who attacked Bush? Terrorists, and guess where a lot of terrorists are now? Iraq. If he wanted oil he could've taken Mexico. They're fifth in oil production, ahead of Iraq. Iraq's 14th, Mexico's fifth. That argument can't even hold its own weight. _________________ "If you're going through hell, keep going."
You can't blame Bush for those deaths. They're killing each other over there, it's not us killing them unless you're talking about terrorists... and there's not 1 million of them in Iraq.
If a conspiracy were true, I think there would be whistleblowers. There aren't any. Just paranoid people who think about conspiracies and crazy "what if" things. However, groupthink like I mentioned above is a real phenomenon. I think it has accounted for lots of Bush's mistakes. But like horcrux said, you can't expect perfection.
I think that given time, Iraq will end up fine. _________________
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Firstly, i don't think that 9/11 could have been prevented. the government recieves threats on a daily basis. 99% of them are empty threats. therefore only an action of terrorism could have forced us to rethink national security. Secondly i think that the war an iraq was one of the biggest mistakes. Saddam hussein was not one of my favorite people, but he wasn't a threat. In fact, he is what That country needed. Without Hussein, that country is in civil war, constant terrorism, and constantly in a state of battle. He had no weapons of mass destruction, the U.N inspected and said that there were no weapons, yet bush went into iraq, killed saddam and now that country has become a province of U.S that is non-profitable, a monetary liability, a result of constant cassualties and a locked in investment for a long time. We do not have the right to liberate every nation whose leadership we do not agree with. Perhaps if Bush had spent a little more time on this country, our economy wouldn't be in the toilet and our dollar would still be higher than canada's. _________________ Ice shall instill the heart of man...only silence will remain
ALOT of people will disagree with me and i don't blame them if they think my opinion is far-fetched..
Well what i think is that 9/11 was orginized my Bush for having a reason to go into a war. The real thing he was after in Iraq was the oil and the money. Now because of this war he has made the world hate a religeon.
Many people now say that he has done te right thing by attacking Iraq. But OPEN UR EYES people. He's killed nearly 1 million people by attacking Iraq and afghanistan. Innocent people, not terrorists. People call the people who are defending Iraq terrorists, but whos attacking Iraq? Bush.
And who attacked Bush? Terrorists, and guess where a lot of terrorists are now? Iraq. If he wanted oil he could've taken Mexico. They're fifth in oil production, ahead of Iraq. Iraq's 14th, Mexico's fifth. That argument can't even hold its own weight.
mexico is fifth in oil prodution!!??? uv got to be kidding! where do you people get ur facts from?? the media? there all liars!
And plus Most of the terrorists are in afghanistan!
They've barely cought any terrorists in Iraq. _________________
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Yeah... I think some poeple are a bit confused... the country of Iraq didn't attack us on 9/11... people from Afghanistan did. They were led by Osama Bin Laden, not Saddam Hussein.
The ORIGINAL reason we went into Iraq was because we were told Iraq had something to do with the attack and they were hiding WMD's. Both of these turned out to be untrue. Not that Iraq is completely innocent, but all the reasons we had for going in there in the first place turned out to be lies. So now I find it very hard to trust anything the Bush administration says about them. _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate ~ Bob Dylan Team Cucumber, FTW!
I don't like that war one bit^ It's all so horrible, just thinking about it. And it's gone on for sooo long. I was six or seven, and I remember watching George Bush on the TV declaring war with Iraq, and I remember wondering how it would affect me. All these years later, I begin to realize that though it doesn't affect me, the destruction I should be concerned about none the less. Sometimes I think I should know more about politics, but then when I go searching for stuff I just end up feeling depressed....sorry, I know I rant, but it's usually only on these sort of things.
I don't think 911 could have prevented. I was five when that happened, and now I'm only starting to pick up a lot of the facts. I don't know much about the security on the planes, but for the towers I know that the reason they weren't prepared for it was that nothing like that had ever happened. The towers were built so to withstand tornadoes, hurricanes, shootings and parking-lot bombs from beneath them, but no one ever imagined something like that would happen. I get choked just thinking about it.... _________________ Draco Malfoy and *sniff...sob* Fred Weasly ♥
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I don't like that war one bit^ It's all so horrible, just thinking about it. And it's gone on for sooo long. I was six or seven, and I remember watching George Bush on the TV declaring war with Iraq, and I remember wondering how it would affect me. All these years later, I begin to realize that though it doesn't affect me, the destruction I should be concerned about none the less. Sometimes I think I should know more about politics, but then when I go searching for stuff I just end up feeling depressed....sorry, I know I rant, but it's usually only on these sort of things.
I remember exactly where I was and what I was doing at the time when he made the announcement where he said we were going to war. He made it seem like we were going to be in and out real fast.
A few days... a few weeks.
He said 10 weeks at one point...
Then he said 3 months...
Seriously, he's making it seem like a deadline is unreasonable, but he was the one shouting them out in the begining when things were looking "good."
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I don't think 911 could have prevented. I was five when that happened, and now I'm only starting to pick up a lot of the facts. I don't know much about the security on the planes, but for the towers I know that the reason they weren't prepared for it was that nothing like that had ever happened. The towers were built so to withstand tornadoes, hurricanes, shootings and parking-lot bombs from beneath them, but no one ever imagined something like that would happen. I get choked just thinking about it....
No, it couldn't have been prevented. Like maximus55669 said, the government gets terrorist tips all the time. Ideally the government should take each one seriously. But let's face it, we don't know what kind of tip they supposedly had, they keep so much from us. We don't know what really happened in the events leading up to 9/11.
The towers were built to withstand all those natural disasters... but a plane flying straight at it? Not in their wildest nightmares had anyone assumed that would happen. I mean, it's been blown up before and survived... you just never know.... you can never be positive.
*hugs Icefire* please don't cry.... you, too Al, I know it upsets you, too! _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate ~ Bob Dylan Team Cucumber, FTW!
9/11: Simple, terrorist attack on our nation. Caused a lot of heartpain for the families. Sad thing.
War in Iraq: I think the war in Iraq is a bunch of bull. I'm happy that Saddam is out of power, but if you think about it, the U.S. just stepped into some deep shit. They are in a war they cannot get out of. 3000+ soldiers have died for this so called "war." It's all about oil and such. BUSH CAN SUCK MY ASS! _________________
What ever happened to the war in afghanistan? I remember following that and then it just sort of died down. Its like bush was looking at a globe pointing at afghanistan, sneezed, and his gaze shifted to iraq and he thought, "what the hell, why not". _________________ Ice shall instill the heart of man...only silence will remain
What ever happened to the war in afghanistan? I remember following that and then it just sort of died down. Its like bush was looking at a globe pointing at afghanistan, sneezed, and his gaze shifted to iraq and he thought, "what the hell, why not".
*bursts out laughing*
I can't breathe... I'm laughing too hard!
You get *hugs* for that... and lots of cookies! _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate ~ Bob Dylan Team Cucumber, FTW!
Hahahaha I must agree. We are completely ignoring the fact that we have the number 1 terrorist in the world on the loose running around. Or so they say...he might be dead. _________________
He was on a dialysis machine... how far could he have gotten? They found Saddam in a freakin hole and they can't find the guy who is already half dead? It's pathetic. _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate ~ Bob Dylan Team Cucumber, FTW!
What ever happened to the war in afghanistan? I remember following that and then it just sort of died down. Its like bush was looking at a globe pointing at afghanistan, sneezed, and his gaze shifted to iraq and he thought, "what the hell, why not".
*bursts out laughing*
I can't breathe... I'm laughing too hard!
You get *hugs* for that... and lots of cookies!
laughs with GinnyX thnx for the hug! *hugs GinnyX* omg that was funny....
*gives maximus a cookie*
We have soldiers shipped to Afganistan so much now....We have Canadians dying in terrorist attacks almost every day, I mean, the war in Afganistan is so old not many people follow it now, but I try to....depressing, but informative _________________ Draco Malfoy and *sniff...sob* Fred Weasly ♥
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He could just as easily be dead. Because him running just doesn't seem that likely, and he was half-dead anyway. He's probably in some unmarked grave in the mountains.
No, the country of Iraq didn't attack us. No country really attacked us. It was mainly terrorists attacking us, an unstable group of Islamic extremists. Then we see an unstable leader, an Islamic extremist who has been reported to have WMD's....hmm. And on top of that an unstable leader who has attacked a neighboring country, and sparked a war AND who has also used nerve gas? It's easy to see why we went initially. We're still there, which sucks, but I've got no problem with us actually going. If we could ever get out, I'd be happier. _________________ "If you're going through hell, keep going."
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