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Latie V
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PostPosted: August 21, 2005 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've thought since reading the book that DD is a ananmugus ( spelling) and that he transforms into a Phoniex. This would explain what harry thought he saw before the white tomb appeared . " bright white flames erupted around Dumbledore's body ...... white smoke spiraled into the air and made a strange shape ... Harry thoughtt .... he saw a phoenix fly joyfully." This white flame was not normal for funeral . Several people screamed which indicates it is abnormal. As we know The Phonenix is reborn from the ashes.
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sindy15
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PostPosted: August 22, 2005 9:54 am    Post subject: Re: Dumbledore's Portrait Reply with quote

i think that any1 who dies of avada kedavra wudnt b able 2 may b giv their opinions and talk.............theyd just b there smilin ,wavin, sleepin, but silent................thats a possibility
B cuz if every1 whos dead is able 2 talk from potraits whats the point in Rowling eliminating that character.
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lovell
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PostPosted: August 22, 2005 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont think the portrait will be of any use, i think that it may have been used as a decoy for the readers. a way to convice the audience that dumbledore is dead. However no where in any of the books does it say you have to die when to become a portrait all you really have to do is be a former headmaster.
It just is a coincidence that all the former headmasters are dead. It would be rather strange if after the headmasters had retired, there portraits would only apear once they were dead.

I think we do have to take into concideration this is a book based on fantasy and most of all magic and the ability to decieve. Poly juice potion and non verbal spells .

I dont think that DD is dead, he might be i will not rule that out, however there are a lot of things mentioned in the book that are there for a reason, but however not used. and she does leave clues for hope

There is a reason for everything, even if it is used to decieve
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t_moz
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PostPosted: August 22, 2005 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does the person have to be dead for there to be a portrait? i thought it was just old headmasters or am i mistaken??? Confused
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hengest
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PostPosted: August 22, 2005 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont see dumbledore being alive and i definatly see his portrait being very important i understand harry has to step up but he has never been taught many things he needs to know about magic.

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Albus has already helped tracking down the horcruxes and Harry has already destroyed the diary( so I believe he can destroy the other horcruxes) We gotta have faith in Harry. He is the hero of the story.Doubting him is a no-no.


who would teach harry the things he didn't know but dumbledore did.
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Hermione
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PostPosted: August 22, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dumbledore isnt the main source of Harry's learning. I mean Harry has learned many things in all those years at hogwarts. He has learned from Hermione, Lupin, The HBP etc etc. I believe Harry is pretty smart, and the most powerful wizard of his age. He is the Hero of the book, and not Dumbledore( as much as he is loved his pressumed death served a purpose) One thing is indeniable the last battle will be between Harry and Voldermort. All this years have been preparation for the final battle...
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jdezer
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PostPosted: August 22, 2005 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had read somewhere that Dumbledore's brother was going to be part of this next book????? Another mentor to Harry???? I don't know but harry needs to learn a lot more before he goes after Voldie! I think he has had a lot of help!!!! His courage is unquestionable..... But there is more to learn if he is going to get Voldie by the shirt tails! If he gets Snape all the better too!!!!
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Ran
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PostPosted: August 23, 2005 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

About Dumbledore's brother.... I'm not so sure about the mentor thing because Dumbledore wasn't even sure that Aberforth (the brother) could even read and he didn't sound like he was ... all there... in Dumbledore's description of him, did he?
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lovell
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PostPosted: August 23, 2005 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My question is... will harry return to the school cas its the only way he is going to see the portrait of dumbledore?

DD portrait was sleeping peacefully, ether he is not dead so he can be peace ful or he is dead cant remeber a thing so he is no use. Because he had no dying words of wisdom for HP. And threw all that was going on he could sleep.
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jdezer
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PostPosted: August 23, 2005 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That maybe, but Aberfroth was in the Photo of the first Order of the Pheonix???? Just a thought ..... the crazier one i heard was that Harry's aunt was going to be a bigger part .... like she a witch or something.....he he he
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hengest
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PostPosted: August 23, 2005 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well im the second person to a hundred posts.

i dont think aberfroth will be his mentor and im not saying that dumbledore will in anyway be involved in the final battle. im just saying that harry will need some help. and you all talk about dumbledore only remembering certain things but the other portraits in the office were aware of themselves and able to hold conversations. there is definatly a larger reason for the portraits being able to talk in the books than just helping the headmaster i think rowling introduced them like this so there would be something left behind after dumbledores death.
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Hermione
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PostPosted: August 23, 2005 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Hengest! Congrats on the 100 plus posts:)!

I dont see DD brother as a new mentor...I think there is a reason all the mentors are being
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killed off,forcing Harry to be alone as a man that he almost is

But thats just my 2 cents.


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hengest
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PostPosted: August 24, 2005 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ty hermione. i dont think dumbledore is alive simply because harry does need to step up to the plate. but i do think that dumbledore will be included in the last book because of the sheer difficulty of finding and destroying the horcrux. yes harry did destroy the diary but that was not an object witht he strength of medal ect. we assume in the 6th book that dumbledores hand is blackened trying to find or destroy a horcrux if this is so how will harry find and destroy them all and still be able to fight voldemort
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jdezer
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PostPosted: August 24, 2005 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I totally agree!!! DD and Harry were not able to finish thier work on finding the Horcruxes! I think Harry is right with going to his parents house to start there.....?
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Hermione
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PostPosted: August 24, 2005 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think for me the most interesting thing that i want to be revealed in the last book has to deal with the Potters. We dont know anything about them! I think their house is a good starting place ( at least for Harry who doesnt know much about his roots) but I dont think he will be lucky finding horcruxes there...
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t_moz
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PostPosted: September 4, 2005 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

according to many sites about HP we will get a lot more from other characters in the next book that is important! eg. harry's parents jobs, dumbledores brother (who i believe is a barman in hogsmeade!), what dudley saw when the dementors attacked him and another thing is that aunt petunia wil play a part in the next book! there is more, cant remember or find them rit now tho!
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Hermione
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PostPosted: September 4, 2005 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah! And they also said that Neville would play a big part in this book...Sad but nothing.
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Lowry
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PostPosted: September 23, 2005 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weren't we discussing something else here?
I don't think DD's potrait would help Harry much.
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Hermione
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PostPosted: September 23, 2005 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, but its a forum lol we get carried away but there is nothing wrong with that.

I agree. What would DD portrait tell Harry? I think it would spoil all the suspense. I mean right now we dont really know if Snape is evil or not (DD portrait would answer that) and DD appearing as a portrait would diminish the importance of his death(in literary value)
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mothermaclean
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PostPosted: June 21, 2007 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think DD portraite will help a hell of a lot
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sesshoumaru18
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PostPosted: June 21, 2007 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Hermione but i also think that Harry has average intelligence. It's like Snape said, everything Harry's done so far has been a mixture of luck and more intelligent friends, mainly Hermione. Harry the big hero, BLAH!!! If all of this were real there would be no way in heaven or hell that Harry could defeat Voldemort.
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mothermaclean
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PostPosted: June 21, 2007 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

great idea
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halfbloodprincess
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PostPosted: June 21, 2007 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont think dd's portrait should continue helping harry. its his quest now, not his.

but i think snape will destroy the horcruxes, not harry. and it will constantly piss harry off so that he will do something so rash and brave that will make the story.
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mothermaclean
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PostPosted: June 21, 2007 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i still think dumbledore new he was gonna die and he could see short way into the future he new harry would still need a little help with the horocruxs
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PostPosted: June 21, 2007 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah.. i agree with halfbloodprincess.. i think book7 is way more focused on harry,, (i mean.. all of the books circulate in harry but..) but.. as halfbloodprincess said.. its his quest now.. and.. i mean.. if dumbledore will be in a portrait and still there to help harry.. hes so uber perfect.. i dont like it.. he should rest!!!
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