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Lucy
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Really JK did a good job of writing it so that you had mixed feelings about the guy. There were moments, most of them not in front of Harry, when Snape would really show how much he cared. But sometimes I would think oh that is just show for DD or something. I really did have mixed feelings for him up until the last book.
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mistress-mu
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I was sure of this as well. I thought that there was no way Dumbledore was wrong about Snape. Dumbledore stood for so much and commanded such respect throughout the books. In my mind, there was no way JKR would let Dumbledore be exposed as just some old fool.
...I would have LOVED Snape either way, though.
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Lucy
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| Posted: August 18, 2007 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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I was sure of this as well. I thought that there was no way Dumbledore was wrong about Snape. Dumbledore stood for so much and commanded such respect throughout the books. In my mind, there was no way JKR would let Dumbledore be exposed as just some old fool.
...I would have LOVED Snape either way, though. |
But Dumbledoor did turn out to have his flaws.
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mistress-mu
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| Posted: August 18, 2007 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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| mistress-mu wrote: |
I was sure of this as well. I thought that there was no way Dumbledore was wrong about Snape. Dumbledore stood for so much and commanded such respect throughout the books. In my mind, there was no way JKR would let Dumbledore be exposed as just some old fool.
...I would have LOVED Snape either way, though. |
But Dumbledoor did turn out to have his flaws. |
Of this I am aware...nobody's perfect...
I myself thought that if Dumbledore was wrong about Snape, it would throw into question everything that everyone believed about Dumbledore...he always seemed to know things and how the story had to unfold...that if Snape was bad, Dumbledore would just look stupid (which JKR would not let happen).
In a way I was semi-right...JKR made us question Dumbledore's actual moral fiber and motives...not his so-called trusting nature.
I knew Snape was underrated.
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Mags
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| Posted: August 18, 2007 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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I read a fanfic where they had planned it for snape to kill him, and I thought that was very very likely and then I put something like that in my own fanfic and then when it actually happened I was like  omg!! they were right!!! 
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wizardZorander
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I didn't think that he was evil up to HBP, but when he killed DD I was certain he was helping Voldemort. So it was a surprise when it turned out that Snape was good.
But you seem to be saying that DD was infallible. That just doesn't seem plausible to me. |
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mistress-mu
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| Posted: August 19, 2007 10:53 am Post subject: |
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I don't believe that Dumbledore is infallible...I just think he was supposed to appear to have a greater understanding of what was actually happening...
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mack10
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Oh I knew he was good! I was just as convinced though that he never loved Lily haha. I thought he had a change of heart not like "damn it, he killed the love of my life. bastard" its like now you get it  |
I don't understand? He wanted revenge all along from the minute Lily dropped dead. His character was so crazy, i never ever imagined something like this would happen, very well planned out and very well writted by JK Rowlings; so well done that as the pages count down around the end of the book you almost want to stop reading just so the story doesn't end. I'm seriously going to miss looking forward to the next Harry Potter book. |
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Potter10
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| No I think he and Dumbledore grew close, if you can call it that. I think they grew to care for each other. Otherwise he wouldn't have hesitated in killing him. He'd just be like "alright Lily, if this is what you'd want I'll do it". But he found it very hard to kill Dumbledore. |
thats like saying if Ron had not met harry on the Hogwart's express, Molly would never have loved him! Why does the reasons matter? All it matters is that he gave up his life for the child of soemone he loved!
Also remember, he was following Dumbledore's plan but the choice to follow or not was his and his alone! |
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ravvy
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snape's alliance never concerned me. when he off'd dumbly i figured there was something to it. in fact i never understood why he didnt just try to kill uncle mortie hisself. i mean if someone messes with brian i see red let alone if they hurt him in any way
the one that effected me the most was kreacher. i saw him in a whole new light after his story
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wickedboy
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| Yeah I hated Snape even though he was on the good side. He was a small, cruel, evil git to everyone around him and had some kind of imaginary immoral love for Harry's mother. And that made him abuse Harry and talk horrible about his dad. Gross. But Harry and his dad and mum were shown to be humugous, compassionate people cuz Harry named his kid Albus Severus, so I assume he and his parents would feel that they can overlook the petty greasy git's behavior and attitude and honor what he did good. That makes them look pretty godlike, but that is what heroes are made of I guess and their parents too. |
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gbella021
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| Posted: July 27, 2008 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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i like how JKR devolped snape's charater during the book i never expected the DH book to end the way it did it truely showed how brave and loyal snape was.
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Evil Love Is Stronger
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I wouldn't call Snape's feelings for Lily love, it's more like obsession. It is cute and beautiful, but it's clear obsession, of the heavy sorts. Snape reminds me of Bellatrix in some way. I doubt Bellatrix would be evil if Voldemort wasn't. Just like Snape wouldn't be good if Lily wasn't. It's a cute feeling to read but it's obsession and it's the worst of its kind. However, DH was a greatly written book.
By the time the Doe Patronus appeared, I figured something wasn't going well. I first thought that it could have been a trap. (keep in mind I reached the chapter at 3 o'clock at night  ) Then I really thought it could have been Lily who sent it, but afterwards I realised that they had heard that the fake sword was in Gringotts and that Dumbledore most likely knew it. And Snape was in the same room with Dumbledore.
The thing sort of started building itself out and I must admit it was awesome sitting at home with a pizza on one hand and a book in the other, reading one of the best-written chapters of the book. I truely loved Ron at this chapter. You realise that he was controlled by Voldemort, yet he owned him!
I guess the feeling just died away. I kept saying "Snape killed Dumbledore" and even though I did find Dumbledore a weird man I hadn't thought that he could have planned his own death.
I find Snape a hero and all, but he's not my thing.
But I do hate bullies like James Potter, even if they are the main character's fathers. 
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Simply Just
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| Posted: August 1, 2008 11:12 am Post subject: |
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| Evil Love Is Stronger wrote: |
| I wouldn't call Snape's feelings for Lily love, it's more like obsession. It is cute and beautiful, but it's clear obsession, of the heavy sorts. Snape reminds me of Bellatrix in some way. I doubt Bellatrix would be evil if Voldemort wasn't. Just like Snape wouldn't be good if Lily wasn't. It's a cute feeling to read but it's obsession and it's the worst of its kind. However, DH was a greatly written book. |
If the obsession was of the worst kind, he would be stalking her constantly and finding some way to perhaps, kill James (and maybe even Harry). He did keep his distance, however, and that's where the "good" comes in and to be honest - even though this is just awful anyway - I don't exactly blame Snape for being so rude to Harry all those years. I mean, Harry had no idea what was going on with his Potion's professor, why he was so avid on making Harry's life a living hell during Harry's school years. But I'm wondering if Snape wanted Harry to be his son? Like, in the matter that Lily would still be the mother.
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