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PostPosted: November 16, 2007 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Voldemorts Horcruxs made him arrogant. I believe he also says that Harry's escapes were all luck. He still thought he could over power Harry.
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PostPosted: November 21, 2007 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

winning does not mean death..it just means defeat, dd might not have been able to defeat vold on him own which is why he inlisted the help of harry. if we are we talking 1 on 1 post dds crippled hand i think vold would defeat him. pre crippled hand dd would defeat him
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PostPosted: November 21, 2007 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evedently Dumbledore was stronger - Voldemort wouldn't have been afraid of him otherwise.

Magically, they're about even, but DD has far more experience (he's 150 and a genius!) and psyclogically he rips Riddle to shreds (he's the only remaining evidence that a time existed in which he was called tom riddle, and ordinary man, think of the power in that, DD wasn't afraid to use it either).

Voldemort's massive weakness is his irrational fear and superstition, that much is certainly made clear - DD has guilt and shame, but none of the baggage that goes with crippling fear.
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PostPosted: November 21, 2007 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I completely agree^

Voldemort is potrayed as a super self-centered and arrogant person.
After attaining so many lackeys and successfully splitting his soul into 7 parts, he kinda became Macbeth. He became extremely paranoid and couldn't wait to get rid of any threats that might finish him off.

That actually caused his downfall. DD COULD kill Voldy, but he needed to destroy the horcruxes first. To obtain the horcrux, at least 2 persons are required, thats why DD brought Harry along, so if anything untoward happened, he could count of Harry to continue the job. DD knew that Harry was the only one that could be on par with or even more powerful than Voldy when dueling.
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PostPosted: November 22, 2007 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we remove The Elder Wand and Horcruxes from the battle, with skill versus skill alone, it is of my strong opinion that Dumbledore would emerge victorious.

IMO, it wouldn't last very long, actually.
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PostPosted: November 22, 2007 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea, see how Voldemort strived so hard to make himself to be immortal. It actually tells us how little confidence he has of himself.
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PostPosted: December 4, 2007 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy answer.

Horcruxes aside, Dumbledore. It was even said that Voldy never dared fight DB.

Even with the Horcruxes, DB would win the first battle but be weakened (maybe injured badly). If Voldy came back to duel again a month later, he might have a better chance.

Dumbledore is the stronger wizard.
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PostPosted: December 4, 2007 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZacKae wrote:
Yea, see how Voldemort strived so hard to make himself to be immortal. It actually tells us how little confidence he has of himself.


yes.. so agree with it...
without the horcruxes, voldy is like nothing...
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PostPosted: December 4, 2007 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe i think that voldemort was afraid of dumbledore because he was the on who came to the orphange(bad spelling) that he lived in,and introduced him to the world of magic,he was the one who made him for the first time take back the things that he stoled from other kids and apologize to them.
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PostPosted: December 16, 2007 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dumbledore!
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PostPosted: December 25, 2007 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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With the horcruxes out of the way, dumbledore would definitely win.

The thing is, dumbledore never attacked him because he knew it would be useless, that voldy would survive due to his horcruxes.

Dumble also knew it would take a long time to find the horcruxes so even before he injured his hand he probably knew he would have to delegate the task to someone else and, after hearing the prophecy, it seemed like harry's destiny to do it.

And im guessing he gave the task to harry not only because he thought harry could do it and it seemed to fit that harry should do it for all of his story with voldy, but also because harry would have had to make a sacrifice anyway, he had to die for voldy to die right? so the part of voldy in him would be destroyed


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PostPosted: January 9, 2008 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dumbledore was better magician then Voldemort, but his fault was his good-hearted...
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PostPosted: January 9, 2008 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they are both equal in power when it comes down to it,so i have no idea who would win the scene in the movie the battle at the ministry was amazing!
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PostPosted: January 10, 2008 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hm if dumbledore was fit, younge and healthy with the skills and power he possessd when he died verus voldemort with voldemort not multilating his soul I'd guess dumbledore would win.
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PostPosted: January 10, 2008 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Look, if Molly Weasley can kill Bellatrix Lestrange, then I'd say that Dumbledore could kill Voldemort in a flash. Smile



Mhmmm...
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PostPosted: January 11, 2008 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dumbledore and Voldy were dueling in the Ministry in OOTP. Voldy would've pwned him if he didn't use any shield charms.
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PostPosted: January 11, 2008 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Voldemort and Dambledor dueled on the end even if I hate Voldemort he would win because if Voldemort would be destroyed Harry would be death,but since Harry was owner of that wand,when Voldemort sent him that desthly spell he destroyed his horkruks and Harry's sould was spaired.Dambledore would die anyway because he put that ring and he was already weak.
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PostPosted: February 6, 2008 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dumbledore would SO win. I doubt if Voldemort would even touch him. Dumbledore's a heckmaster of defensive charms, as well as transfiguration, non verbal spells, and knows Voldemort's next thought before Voldemort thinks of it... What does Voldemort have?
"You will die! Avada Kedavra Avada Kedavra Avada Kedavra" and so on. All Dumbledore has to do is block the spells with defensive charms and use side effect defense spells to counter hit Voldemort. And you might want to notice Dumbledore's offensive spells are a bit tough-tough. The only offensive spell Dumbledore has used for killing was described as pretty strong in the books. Voldemort actually has only his horcruxes, and without them, it'd be a three-minute fight before Dumbledore would ultimately overpower him to his death.
Dumbledore never attacked Voldemort in the open because of the prophecy. He'd have him in the bag if there was no Harry Potter, perhaps in one or two spells... Voldemort gets overpowered both in the book and the movie during their duel, and it was the only actual fight they had (or the only one that was described anyway).
Dumbledore is teh pwn, Voldemort is teh sux, kkthxbbqq.
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PostPosted: February 7, 2008 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dumbledore, Voldemort would lose confidence!
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PostPosted: February 8, 2008 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bulkathos wrote:

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hm if dumbledore was fit, younge and healthy with the skills and power he possessd when he died verus voldemort with voldemort not multilating his soul I'd guess dumbledore would win.


agreeeee
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PostPosted: February 8, 2008 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No ONE can defeat my VODLEMORT!!!

plus if dumlbedor could defeat him, dont ya think he would have done so? also, why did the prophecy say it had to be harry. cmon, i think of course that dd would be stronger in magic, but voldemort would prolly defeat him some way
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PostPosted: February 8, 2008 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Voldemort rules! But Dumbledore would win!
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PostPosted: February 8, 2008 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Voldemort rules!


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PostPosted: February 9, 2008 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: February 15, 2008 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote