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| cards101 wrote: |
| now u are condridicitng urself u said he only did it case dd told him 2 get over it snape liked harry just needed to let of the steem of all the thing james did to him so all in all snape is in love with a dead chick and just regrets that harry is not his but still helps him cause he could have been his we are both right just from different views |
Seriously, add some periods in there. I'm not trying to be mean, but it's getting difficult to read. 
Snape didn't like Harry. We know that for a fact. He was absolutely cruel to him and his friends. I'm not going to argue with you about that here because this is not a thread for that.
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its not that he did not like harry.(see i put in a period i am amzing) he resented harry and was mean to him.
example: if there is a girl or guy u like alot and someone starts going out with them u are a ass to the person going out with he or she
snape could resent james cause he is dead so he resented harry
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| Posted: August 12, 2007 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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its not that he did not like harry.(see i put in a period i am amzing) he resented harry and was mean to him.
example: if there is a girl or guy u like alot and someone starts going out with them u are a ass to the person going out with he or she
snape could resent james cause he is dead so he resented harry |
Snape didn't even try to get to know Harry. He just called him arrogant and treated him and his friends horribly.
No, I wouldn't be mean to some girl just because she was going out with the guy I liked. That has nothing to do with it. If the girl was mean to me, then I would not like her. But I would never sink down to her level. I'm more mature than that. That's the difference between me and Snape. However, James was quite mean to Snape, so I can understand why Snape would not like him. But to be mean to his son, when the kid is his student, is just obnoxious and unjustifiable.
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ok maybe it is just a guy thing but we get jealus i am amazing at spelling
it is called hard love
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| Posted: August 12, 2007 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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| cards101 wrote: |
its not that he did not like harry.(see i put in a period i am amzing) he resented harry and was mean to him.
example: if there is a girl or guy u like alot and someone starts going out with them u are a ass to the person going out with he or she
snape could resent james cause he is dead so he resented harry |
Snape didn't even try to get to know Harry. He just called him arrogant and treated him and his friends horribly.
No, I wouldn't be mean to some girl just because she was going out with the guy I liked. That has nothing to do with it. If the girl was mean to me, then I would not like her. But I would never sink down to her level. I'm more mature than that. That's the difference between me and Snape. However, James was quite mean to Snape, so I can understand why Snape would not like him. But to be mean to his son, when the kid is his student, is just obnoxious and unjustifiable. |
I concure.
I'm a guy and the whole "guys get jealous" bit doesn't work. Snape was a jerk to Harry and shouldn't have been. If he truely cared about Lily then he would have cared about her son.
I wonder what would have happened if Harry had gone to Slytherine, would Snape have liked him better?
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| Harry Loves Hermione wrote: |
I wonder what would have happened if Harry had gone to Slytherine, would Snape have liked him better? |
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I don't know.
But a very interesting question....
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| Posted: August 12, 2007 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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i still think that snape liked harry he did not show it is is called hard love ever herd of it also who cam up with the idea to have 7 potter snape
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| Posted: August 12, 2007 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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| cards101 wrote: |
| i still think that snape liked harry he did not show it is is called hard love ever herd of it also who cam up with the idea to have 7 potter snape |
Dumbledore's idea.
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still if he had not liked harry he would have not listen to dd
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Snape went way beond the Hard love mode - he went into the I'm gunna rip you a new one, every time I see you mode.
If Snape really did care about Harry, he didn't show it the way he should have. He was almost as bad as the Dursleys (who didn't care about Harry.)
James on the other hand, matured enough to be a father, and a good one as well.
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he did not go beond hard love he simply regreted harry and thus shunned him but secretly cared for the little kid
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| Posted: August 13, 2007 9:44 am Post subject: ***PRO SNAPE*** |
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I know James' is probaby better for Lily and would be remembered with more fondly than Snape but as halfbloodprincess said Snape's Childhood was way different to James'.
 Firstly that kind of a thing really affects a person and never being loved can really crush someone. He must've been really insecure as a teenager especially since he wasn't typically handsome or whatever.
James did marture, but Snape didn't get the chance to obvoiously because of the scars he held of being tortured throughout his school career by the most popular kid.
I can't remember who said it but at the beginning of this thread someone mentioned him being an easy target, which might be true but the thing that gets me is in his worst memory Snape didn't even provoke an attack, unless you call his 'existence' mere provocation as James would!!!!!!! I mean how cruel is that!!!!!!! He got his underwear taken off in front of the whole school!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Even after 17 years he hadn't learnt to let go. IMO all he needed was to be loved back and someone to help him through it. I mean you saw his house -- what a lonely guy!!
I think JK was really clever when creating Harry's appearence: simultaneously he looks like his worst enemy and the person he loved. I mean how is Snape meant to act around someone who is a living reminder of some of the most important things in his life? Attack is the best form of defence if what you're defending are all you're insecurities.
I don't know if this explains the whole DE thing but maybe if he had a better childhood and stuff he would've been 10 times the man as James!!!
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As for Snape only caring abotu Lily and no one else - I am willing to say Snape had a vague sense of respect of sort for Dumbledore. |
I agree the way he cared so much when DD showed him his hand after putting on Riddle's ring.
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regardless long live the dark lord
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| Posted: August 13, 2007 11:16 am Post subject: I guess James Potter |
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I am not really sure who was the better person, we know so little about both it seems. We only come to discover who they truly are through scattered memories, etc. It seems to me though that since James always fought Voldemort that he would be the better person but then Snape was part of Slytherin so perhaps he was young and confused.
I guess in the end, I have to agree with everyone who said James Potter because again, he was good from the very beginning and that has to mean something. Not to mention, he brought Harry Potter into the world.
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i think u people (gryffondors and non slytherin) think james was better because he is the father of the main character while snape was mean to the main cahracter
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| Posted: August 13, 2007 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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| i think u people (gryffondors and non slytherin) think james was better because he is the father of the main character while snape was mean to the main cahracter |
Snape was also mean to Hermione and Neville. He was only mean to non-Slytherins. So that is why many non-Slythierns don't like Snape.
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| i think u people (gryffondors and non slytherin) think james was better because he is the father of the main character while snape was mean to the main cahracter |
Snape hated anybody not in his house, and gave Malfoy preferential treatment.
I don't like him because the reason he wanted to save lily was selfish, and the fact that he wasn't any nicer to Harry doesn't help at all.
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It's been stated like a million times that Snape was definitely acting out of selfishness than selflessness in many cases. Although, I believe that he did redeem him self to a point in his last moments.
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Selfish motives can help a lot of people sometimes.
Snape joined the good guys for selfish motives sure but in the end, everything he did helped quite a lot of people. |
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This is why I believe he managed to redeem himself, to a point, toward the end of his life.
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James was a definitely better man than Snape. Second, James was a way better husband to Lily then Snape would have been. I just can't see Snape committing to a relationship.
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| I think JK was really clever when creating Harry's appearence: simultaneously he looks like his worst enemy and the person he loved. I mean how is Snape meant to act around someone who is a living reminder of some of the most important things in his life? Attack is the best form of defence if what you're defending are all you're insecurities. |
This is the answer to why Snape was so mean to Harry. Harry was James with the exception of having Lily's eyes. Rowling was certain correct when she said Lily's eyes would be very important in the final book. When I read the part that Snape looked into Harry's eyes, I got chills all over my body. He died looking into the same eyes of his love. Aside from that, Harry was pretty much a mini-James, and even though Harry was like James, Snape still did everything to keep Harry safe. Snape, like some have already said, definitely preferred Slytherins.
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Potter no doubt. even though he picked on snape he grew out of it and matured. even though snape was helping harry all along he still acted like a two year old by always assigning detention and taking away points for dumb reasons.
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| Posted: August 14, 2007 8:48 am Post subject: |
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| i think u people (gryffondors and non slytherin) think james was better because he is the father of the main character while snape was mean to the main cahracter |
Damn straight that's propaganda for you.
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| It's been stated like a million times that Snape was definitely acting out of selfishness than selflessness in many cases. |
Pah!!!! Even if JK said that I repeat pah!!!!!!
All of you anti Snape's need to look at the facts: Snape is a good guy! He might appear as selfish but underneath it all he's a nice person. Come on it's obvious he's insecure so he pretends to be all macho and heartless!!!! DD said ÄI think they sort too soon.' You guys can't disagree with DD.
lol ok I'm biased but remember:
(Snape> James) x infinity
Also I bet he told the sorting hat to put him in Slytherin so people wouldn't see how kind hearted he was.
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