Snape, to me, very much follows the form of a Byronic hero (aside from the intense sexual attraction part - although I'm sure his many fans would disagree). "Mad, bad, and dangerous to know," as Lady Catherine Lamb put it In that way he's meant to have some redeeming qualities, maybe even brave at times, but not necessarily to be a 'good' man in the proper sense of it. That's what makes him such an intriguing character though.
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oh thanks for that! I have to agree. but as I am his fan I disagree with that one part you mentioned. _________________
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1. I hate to say it and all, but Snape was the better man.
2. James was the better man for Lily, although I think it would have been sweeter if it was Snape, as they had known each other for longer and that James was a total jerk. But James was better for Lily, because their son was the reason that Snape stopped being a death eater, so their son survived, plus Snape might have made Lily a death eater and that would not have been good. _________________ I love you.
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oh thanks for that! I have to agree. but as I am his fan I disagree with that one part you mentioned.
I disagree with that too But I added that from the standpoint of how Rowling intended him to come across in the book. _________________ I don't have a lot of experience with vampires, but I have hunted werewolves. I shot one once. But by the time I got to it, it had turned back into my neighbor's dog. ~ Dwight Schrute
oh thanks for that! I have to agree. but as I am his fan I disagree with that one part you mentioned.
I disagree with that too But I added that from the standpoint of how Rowling intended him to come across in the book.
Oh, right. I read one interview where she said something like: "I don`t understand why people like, even love, Snape." But we can`t help it, right? _________________
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James has never used dark arts. That's good enough for me.
James was funny. He told jokes. He's loyal to friends. He's a pure blood but he didn't despised muggleborn or werewolves. He made people believe that Lupin just had trouble with a bunny. Friends and teacher could trust him on anything.
I couldn't find any sense of humour in Snape, he used dark arts. Consider how many people's family, relative or friends died of dark arts at that time. Everyone would try to fight him, they just couldn't pluck up the courage except James and Sirius.
He promised DD he wouldn't tell on Lupin, but then he leaked out.
i dont like snape very much and even though his jokes were funny, most of them were cruel
but remember that harry himself used dark curses 4 times, 1 of them was the one he used with draco that i dont think it really counts because he didnt know what it did, but the other three times he used them in full knowledge of his actions
the thing isnt "never in your life use dark arts they are the very scum of society" the thing is to recognize they hurt people and are very dangerous, thats why im averse to them _________________
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Alright well Harry was never obsessed with them. He hated them. He used them only if he really needed to. _________________
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or in anger (like when he used crucio in both cases)
he used the imperio curse in need with a cool head, cause he knew that otherwise they were doomed and they had an important mission to complete _________________
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I couldn't find any sense of humour in Snape, he used dark arts. Consider how many people's family, relative or friends died of dark arts at that time. Everyone would try to fight him, they just couldn't pluck up the courage except James and Sirius.
Had they been fighting him purely in self defense or in someone else's defense it would have been different. But what they did wasn't out of some valiant notion of smiting a minion of darkness. They picked fights with him when he hadn't done anything to start, just because they were bored. They bullied the kid because he was different. And when you do that to a kid who is already leaning towards bad ideas/hanging with the wrong people, it very often drives them even further towards it. (This has been a public service announcement against bullying )
He had a sense of humor, haha. It was just dry and sarcastic. Actually, he puts me in mind a bit of House. _________________ I don't have a lot of experience with vampires, but I have hunted werewolves. I shot one once. But by the time I got to it, it had turned back into my neighbor's dog. ~ Dwight Schrute
i agree with the first part, james and sirius were by no means innocent
but on the second part, yes snape is sarcastic and he had a couple of jokes i appreciated (would u like me to do it now or would u like to write an epiphany first? lol) but many of his jokes were really cruel for me to enjoy them at all _________________
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As for Snape, I was really shocked to know that he loved Lily and had been protecting Harry without Harry knowing it. But it seems that he did all of that just because he sees Lily in Harry and I somehow think that if he sees more James in Harry, he will definitely leave Harry on his own and never will protect him.
As for Snape, I was really shocked to know that he loved Lily and had been protecting Harry without Harry knowing it. But it seems that he did all of that just because he sees Lily in Harry and I somehow think that if he sees more James in Harry, he will definitely leave Harry on his own and never will protect him.
Gees, thats my thoughts.
Well, he only protected Harry to try to make up for giving Voldemort the information on the prophecy to begin with. It was his fault that Lily died, and protecting her son was the only way to make up for it.
He definately saw more of James in Harry, and that was why protecting him was so painful for Snape. If he saw so much Lily in Harry, then he wouldn't have been dead set against the boy. _________________
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He definately saw more of James in Harry, and that was why protecting him was so painful for Snape. If he saw so much Lily in Harry, then he wouldn't have been dead set against the boy.
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Because while Snape might not have been an auror or anything even close, once he realized that what he was doing was wrong (mainly because Voldemort would not listen to spare Lily), he became even braver than James. I'm sorry, but becoming a spy would take a lot more courage and be a lot more dangerous than outright defiance. Also, come on. James picked on Snape, and he never even had a good reason, honestly.
For Lily: It's a toss up, but I'm still going to have to say Snape. He wouldn't have been the same if he had ended up in a different house, or if he hadn't gotten harassed by James all the time. Also, he joined the Death Eaters (inadvertently) because he hadn't gotten Lily.
And in the end, whoever wins is the good guy really.
i think James was definitely the best man. Severus hated Harry because he was James' son and only protected him because he loved Lilly.
However, i don't think James was always that nice, there was no reason for him to humiliate Severus after the OWLS. Also, i think Severus' love for Lilly might have been deeper than James' but that's just me ^^ _________________ "His eyes are as green as a fresh pickled toad
His hair is as dark as a blackboard
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The hero who conquered the Dark Lord"
Because while Snape might not have been an auror or anything even close, once he realized that what he was doing was wrong (mainly because Voldemort would not listen to spare Lily), he became even braver than James. I'm sorry, but becoming a spy would take a lot more courage and be a lot more dangerous than outright defiance. Also, come on. James picked on Snape, and he never even had a good reason, honestly.
For Lily: It's a toss up, but I'm still going to have to say Snape. He wouldn't have been the same if he had ended up in a different house, or if he hadn't gotten harassed by James all the time. Also, he joined the Death Eaters (inadvertently) because he hadn't gotten Lily.
And in the end, whoever wins is the good guy really.
james was incredibly brave as well, probably just as much as snape, the difference is that snape had the talent and ability to do it
also, you say james picked on snape, which was of course awfully wrong of him, but honestly, think of the ammount of ppl snape himself picks on throughtout all the books and even when he was a teen, we're not sure if he was the one actually picking but he didnt seem to mind his friends using dark magic on other students
and james would have realized his mistake with snape too, im sure, but he died very young
snape went to slytherin cause he strongly wanted to, it was obvious when he was on the train before his first day at hogwarts and he didnt turn into a bad person just because lily stopped being his friend, he wasnt a big person to begin with
and when you say that snape wouldnt have joined the DE if he would've been with lily, well that could have been true, but really for all we know, it could've been the other way round, snape doing a bad effect on lily instead of lily doing a good effect on snape
i dont think a guy so obsessed with dark arts was the best for lily _________________
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I don't think Snape was meant to be "better" in any respect. He's meant to be complex and flawed and maybe not the best person in the world. It makes it all the more striking when you see his memories and realize what he went through and why he did it. He wouldn't have been nearly as interesting a character if he were an unquestionably "good" man.
I find him to be a better character than James though, because of his flaws. I tend to find myself much more drawn to dark, bitter, tormented characters, so he's far more intriguing to me. _________________ I don't have a lot of experience with vampires, but I have hunted werewolves. I shot one once. But by the time I got to it, it had turned back into my neighbor's dog. ~ Dwight Schrute
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In that way he's meant to have some redeeming qualities, maybe even brave at times, but not necessarily to be a 'good' man in the proper sense of it. That's what makes him such an intriguing character though.
But we can`t help it, right? 
