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Harry's Scar....A Possible Horcrux?
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littlehangleton
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PostPosted: July 17, 2006 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it makes sense, but at the same time, she could have just been saying it in a way as not to try and reveal the ending. I could see either one being a possibility. I personally don't want to say whether or not he will die, but I certainly do think that she's left it open as a possibility.
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PostPosted: July 20, 2006 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't think she will kill Harry, because in old interviews she used to say that she had no plans for an eighth Potter book, as though it were a possibility, but she just didn't have plans for it. Therefore, if book 8 were a possibility, then Harry must live. Does that make sense?

How about an eight book about what heppend to the others after Harry died??
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PostPosted: July 20, 2006 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Siddhu, think it like this: in order to destroy V, you have to destroy all hoursecruxes, if Harry was one, he would have to commit suicide in the fisrt place, becasue if not, Voldie will not die. If he commits suicide, how is he supposed to kill Voldie, I mean, he will be dead... I say Harry is no Hoursecrux!
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PostPosted: July 20, 2006 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see the point in your theory, Sonita. Who's to say that Harry won't be dead by the end of the 7th book? I would say that it's certainly a possibility, and if so, his scar may very well be the reason that it has to happen!
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PostPosted: July 21, 2006 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sonita888 wrote:
Siddhu, think it like this: in order to destroy V, you have to destroy all hoursecruxes, if Harry was one, he would have to commit suicide in the fisrt place, becasue if not, Voldie will not die. If he commits suicide, how is he supposed to kill Voldie, I mean, he will be dead... I say Harry is no Hoursecrux!


I wasn't saying he's one. P4df00t did. And yes you're right littlehangleton, Harry might die, but we don't it's because of the scar do we? I'm very sceptical about Harry's scar being a Horcrux. It's a lot of guesswork, saying Harry is a Horcrux, without any convincing evidence. I don't know. From what we know from the books, Harry isn't a Horcrux. The only thing that points to this: the "connection" between Harry and Voldemort. There might be another explanation.
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PostPosted: July 21, 2006 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't see the point in your theory, Sonita. Who's to say that Harry won't be dead by the end of the 7th book? I would say that it's certainly a possibility, and if so, his scar may very well be the reason that it has to happen!

You dont get my point! I mean, that is Harry WAS a housecrux, he would have to kill himself before defeating V; becasue if not, he would come back. But, if he is dead, hw wouldnt be able to kill V, so, using logic, he can't he a hoursecrux...
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PostPosted: July 22, 2006 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You dont get my point! I mean, that is Harry WAS a housecrux, he would have to kill himself before defeating V; becasue if not, he would come back. But, if he is dead, hw wouldnt be able to kill V, so, using logic, he can't he a hoursecrux...


I've already posted about that and it makes sense. The only way Harry can destroy both souls(if he is a Horcrux) is to create a huge magical explosion that destroys his soul, Voldemort's fragment soul and Voldemort's own one all at once.
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PostPosted: July 22, 2006 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess if Harry was a horcrux, then it would be Harry that dies as the prophecy says 'one will have to die' or something like that. If he is a horcrux, then Harry will have to kill himself, but who would kill Voldemort? He has to die! Evil or Very Mad If he doesn't die, then the wizarding world will still be in danger because Voldemort will still be getting followers and will go after someone else, maybe Ron or Hermione, if they're still alive after the battle. Siddhu made a conclusion on how Harry could kill himself and Voldemort though. So maybe he'll kill himself and Voldemort at the same time so his friends will be safe. I don't know. There are so many outcomes that could take place and J.K. Rowling is the only one who knows the real one.
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PostPosted: July 24, 2006 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

littlehangleton wrote:
I think it makes sense, but at the same time, she could have just been saying it in a way as not to try and reveal the ending. I could see either one being a possibility. I personally don't want to say whether or not he will die, but I certainly do think that she's left it open as a possibility.


Yes, maybe, but Rowling herself has always known whether or not he will die.
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PostPosted: July 24, 2006 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt wrote:
littlehangleton wrote:
I think it makes sense, but at the same time, she could have just been saying it in a way as not to try and reveal the ending. I could see either one being a possibility. I personally don't want to say whether or not he will die, but I certainly do think that she's left it open as a possibility.


Yes, maybe, but Rowling herself has always known whether or not he will die.

Yeah, well, I think that one is a litte obvious... Very Happy
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PostPosted: July 24, 2006 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Siddhu wrote:
I wasn't saying he's one. P4df00t did. And yes you're right littlehangleton, Harry might die, but we don't it's because of the scar do we? I'm very sceptical about Harry's scar being a Horcrux. It's a lot of guesswork, saying Harry is a Horcrux, without any convincing evidence. I don't know. From what we know from the books, Harry isn't a Horcrux. The only thing that points to this: the "connection" between Harry and Voldemort. There might be another explanation.


I completely agree. I didn't mean to say that his scar is definitely a horcrux, or that that is how he would die if he does in the end.

Also, Sonita, I see your point now, and I think it's a good one. Thank you for clarifying for me!

Also, Matt, of course JKR knows whether or not Harry will die! That's just a given!
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PostPosted: July 24, 2006 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

His car cant be a horcrux becuase voldemort was look to kill harry and he wasnt planning to make him a horcrux because harry would be dead and there wouldnt even be a scar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cool
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PostPosted: July 24, 2006 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sammi wrote:
His car cant be a horcrux becuase voldemort was look to kill harry and he wasnt planning to make him a horcrux because harry would be dead and there wouldnt even be a scar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cool

are you sure about that?? Surprised
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PostPosted: July 24, 2006 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

moonfisher wrote:
Hehe, my older sister lobbed that theory at me a few days ago. I think it's a very real possibility. Wouldn't that make a great twist?


No it wouldn't be a great twist, because we all suspect it.
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PostPosted: July 24, 2006 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sonita888 wrote:
Matt wrote:


I don't think she will kill Harry, because in old interviews she used to say that she had no plans for an eighth Potter book, as though it were a possibility, but she just didn't have plans for it. Therefore, if book 8 were a possibility, then Harry must live. Does that make sense?

How about an eight book about what heppend to the others after Harry died??


There can't be an eighth "HARRY POTTER" book if Harry Potter is dead, can there?
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PostPosted: July 24, 2006 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sonita888 wrote:
Sammi wrote:
His car cant be a horcrux becuase voldemort was look to kill harry and he wasnt planning to make him a horcrux because harry would be dead and there wouldnt even be a scar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cool

are you sure about that?? Surprised


I think Sammi has a good point. If Voldemort was planning to kill Harry, he wouldn't have made him become a Horcrux.
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PostPosted: July 24, 2006 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sonita888 wrote:
Sammi wrote:
His car cant be a horcrux becuase voldemort was look to kill harry and he wasnt planning to make him a horcrux because harry would be dead and there wouldnt even be a scar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cool

are you sure about that?? Surprised


I think Sammi has a good point. If Voldemort was planning to kill Harry, he wouldn't have made him become a Horcrux.
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PostPosted: July 24, 2006 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like you posted the same thing twice! Very Happy

What Sammi says is true, if Voldemort wanted to kill Harry, get rid of the threat, why bother making a Horcrux? Doesn't make sense does it? Voldie wanted kill the baby and maybe make a Horcrux out of something else as a trophy. Maybe the baby blanket?(lol)
Apparently Voldemort thought this was going to be another routine job. Overconfidence. And of course the unexpected happened in the form of the curse backfiring. So if he wanted to make a Horcrux afterwards(DD says Voldie likes collecting trophies) he couldn't do it, thanks to the Boy Who Lived.
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PostPosted: July 25, 2006 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt wrote:
Sonita888 wrote:
Sammi wrote:
His car cant be a horcrux becuase voldemort was look to kill harry and he wasnt planning to make him a horcrux because harry would be dead and there wouldnt even be a scar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cool

are you sure about that?? Surprised


I think Sammi has a good point. If Voldemort was planning to kill Harry, he wouldn't have made him become a Horcrux.

Think it this way: V wouldn't he shouting around about his Horcrux, bacause, well, it is abvious... if Harry was a Horcrux (which I don't believe, but I am seeing it from evey angle possible) wouldn't it be mcuh, MUCH smarter to act like hw wants to kill harry and make hima a Horcrux??? Pople wouldn't dare to believe he is one, because, well, he, tha baby, is the worst enemy of V, so, why make him a Hosecrux?
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PostPosted: July 25, 2006 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that if Voldy made Harry a horcrux, it was completely by accident. Because of Sonita's reasons mentioned earlier, I do not think that Harry's scar is a horcrux, but at the same time, if it were I don't think this would be something V would do on purpose.
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PostPosted: July 25, 2006 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

littlehangleton wrote:
I think that if Voldy made Harry a horcrux, it was completely by accident. Because of Sonita's reasons mentioned earlier, I do not think that Harry's scar is a horcrux, but at the same time, if it were I don't think this would be something V would do on purpose.

I don't think Harry is one either, I'm just observing it from every angle possible... besides, it could be, if Harry is, like Siddhu said: a highe explotion where they both die... (althoug, Harry should die first...)
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PostPosted: July 25, 2006 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sonita888 wrote:
littlehangleton wrote:
I think that if Voldy made Harry a horcrux, it was completely by accident. Because of Sonita's reasons mentioned earlier, I do not think that Harry's scar is a horcrux, but at the same time, if it were I don't think this would be something V would do on purpose.

I don't think Harry is one either, I'm just observing it from every angle possible... besides, it could be, if Harry is, like Siddhu said: a highe explotion where they both die... (althoug, Harry should die first...)


If Voldmort wasn't trying to kill Harry, why did he cast the Avada Kedavra curse? And I don't think he could have turned Harry into a Horcrux by accident , because it must be a very complicated thing to do, and take a lot of magical skill. I doubt it could happen by accident.
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PostPosted: July 25, 2006 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, it isn't as simple as pointing your wand and saying an incantation. This is very advanced Dark magic. Like I said, if Voldemort wanted to make a Horcrux, he intended to do it after he killed Harry and out of something else. But he didn't get a chance to do that. I think we all agree that it's unlikely that Harry is a Horcrux.
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PostPosted: July 26, 2006 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Siddhu wrote:
Yeah, it isn't as simple as pointing your wand and saying an incantation. This is very advanced Dark magic. Like I said, if Voldemort wanted to make a Horcrux, he intended to do it after he killed Harry and out of something else. But he didn't get a chance to do that. I think we all agree that it's unlikely that Harry is a Horcrux.

sure, but by the time he intended ot keill Harry there had been 2 deaths, and no one around to say that he tried the Adakadavra chams, now was there?
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