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Posts: 581 · Posted: September 29, 2005 8:24 pm Post subject:

That too! ( Im gonna stay quiet because im a delusional H/Hr shipper but im just happy with Harry not ending with Ginny-See my post in the relationships thread)

I think Snape kept his love secret...
The whole Snape/Lily/James triangle is fun.
I wonder if it was unrequitted love or not....
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It is fun, isn't it? It's also fun to think that Dumbledore had a thing for socks. (And we ALL know that Dobby does.)
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Posts: 583 · Posted: October 2, 2005 2:57 am Post subject:

Maybe the reason why Snape snaps at Lily in the pensieve is because he's from Slytherin, and he doesn't want other Slytherins(especially pure-bloods)to see that he appreciates getting help from Lily. He calls her 'mudblood' but he secretly likes her. And maybe he didn't want to feel weak in front of James and Sirius.
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Posts: 581 · Posted: October 2, 2005 2:18 pm Post subject:

^
Great Point:) Its all becoming very clear now.
I wonder what happened to them? Did they have an affair? Did both feel the same way or just Snape? Did James find out?
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I think it was unrequited love on Snapes part, perhaps Snape fell for her as she was kind hearted towards him, certainly nobody else seemed to like him. I just cant imagine Lily with Snape not romantically, but you never know.....

Posts: 581 · Posted: October 2, 2005 2:37 pm Post subject:

It would make for an excellent twist. I mean the secret we still dont know anything about is Lily's. So it could be something along the lines of "Lily loved Snape in a strange kind of way" or "Lily and Snape had something going on then something big happened and Snape swore revenge"
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It would certainly explain Snape and James hatred towards each other.

Something happened between Snape and Lily that we dont know about yet, whether it was love from both ways or some sort of infatuation on Snapes part.
I cant wait to find out Lilys secrets, and theres definatley something more to her green eyes....

Posts: 581 · Posted: October 2, 2005 2:52 pm Post subject:

Yeah! I must be something really important if JK left it for the last book. Too bad we have to wait some much *cries*
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I know

I'm kinda glad that it's gonna take a while for the 7th book to come out because once you read it, there isn't anymore books to the series Sad

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Posts: 581 · Posted: October 9, 2005 5:53 pm Post subject:

I agree. The same happened to me with the LORT movies. Now I feel empty every december. Sad

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Posts: 583 · Posted: October 23, 2005 7:23 am Post subject:

I've got more evidence on Snapes' innocence and a possible reason why Dumbledore trusted him. Snape has saved Harry's life on more than one occasion. The first one of course, was in PS, when he uses a counter-jinx to save Harry from falling off his broomstick. Why did he do it? Nobody else knew that someone was cursing Harry. It was Quirrell, under the influence of Voldemort who was doing the curse. Snape, though knew it was a curse, because he was a former Death Eater. He alone knew how to undo it. Dumbledore never expected Snape to save him. He did it because he was on the good side, it was duty. Another occasion, which is more significant is in OoP. Snape saves Harry indirectly this time. After Harry and the others go to the Ministry, it's Snape who informs the Order. Why did he do it? He could have said he didn't know that they had been caught by Umbridge, and by the time he got there everybody had gone. Who would doubt him? If it wasn't for Snape, Harry and his friends would have been killed. Hermione, Ron, Luna and Neville were all defensless when the Order came to the rescue. And don't forget when Voldie uses the avada kedavra on Harry, he doesn't do anything, but Dumbledore blocks the curse. And who called DD? Snape. He ruined the Death Eaters chances of getting the Prophecy. He knew that Harry had gone to the Ministry. He also helped save Dumbledore's life. As DD himself says, Slytherin's ring had a curse on it. If it wasn't for the timely action of Snape when Dumbledore returned to Hogwarts, desperately injured, he would have died. Why didn't Snape finish him off, and run for it. Voldie would have rewarded him.
As for why DD trusts him, another theory. It fits with Snape loves Lily. When Snape tells Voldemort about the Prophecy, he didn't know it would lead to Lily's death. He is filled with guilt and remorse. He propbably tells Dumbledore about his love for Lily, so Dumbledore brings him to his side, and offers him a job. Perhaps this is why DD won't tell Harry why he trusts Snape. He was afraid how Harry would take. I'm not sure about this , but think about it.
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Posts: 581 · Posted: October 23, 2005 1:51 pm Post subject:

Wow! That really cleared things up! Thanks Siddhu.

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I don't think that Snape is evil. Someone said earlier that Dumbledore wasn't begging for Snape to spare his life...he was telling him to do it...

Posts: 581 · Posted: October 27, 2005 8:40 pm Post subject:

Exactly...and remember the whole "hagrid" saw DD with Snape and Snape look hesistant ( if I recall correctly)..They were arguing right? It could have been something like
DD: You must kill me if it has to be done!
S: No, I cant...I...
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Siddhu, that was brilliant, and I have to say it makes so much sense.

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Dumbledore trusted Snape. There had to be a good reason for that. I think that Snape may have been a little bit evil. I mean, come on, he was with Voldemort at the end. But, that doesn't mean that there still isn't good in him. There has to be some good in him. Otherwise; he wouldn't have bothered in saving Harry's life. I mean, I realize that he was just repaying James because James saved his life. But somebody truly and totally evil wouldn't have cared about that. They wouldn't have saved Harry and wouldn't have felt guilty about it. Snape did save Harry's life; or at least tried to several times. Somebody evil wouldn't have it in their hearts to even do that much.
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Posts: 581 · Posted: October 30, 2005 9:46 pm Post subject:

^ Welcome:)

I agree. I just think Snape has an inner confusion but if you look at his actions there are tiny little moments which scream he is good and loyal.

P.S lol i luv your siggy:)
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I like it's siggy too .. ^_^

Yes, I totally agree on the whole Snape thing. He's gotta be good. He's just good at covering it. Very Happy

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I'm pretty sure that Snape didn't know what he was agreeing to when he took the unbreakable vow. He pretended to know in order to get information for the Order. The more I read it, the more I'm convinced this is what happened. When he found out he had to kill Dumbledore, he had no choice but to do it.

Posts: 583 · Posted: November 13, 2005 3:49 am Post subject:

I agree. He had no idea what the consequences would be. He probably told Dumbledore about the vow. This is why they were arguing. Dumbledore figured out that Malfoy was trying to kill him. When he heard of the vow, he knew that Snape might have to kill him. According to the vow,Snape had to finish the task if Malfoy failed. Snape was reluctant to kill Dumbledore, but accepted that it had to be done if Dumbledore failed to bring Malfoy to their side. And that is exactly what happened. Remember when Malfoy told Dumbledore that Snape had made the vow with his mother? Dumbledore wasn't surprised or worried. He already knew.
I think Snape did a very good job of acting the bad guy. The Death Eaters were convinced. Maybe Dumbledore gave instructions to Snape, that he should remain on the Death Eaters side, and help Harry when the moment comes.
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Posts: 581 · Posted: November 13, 2005 2:59 pm Post subject:

^ Exactly:)
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First of all you ladies are hopeless romantics Exclamation

All this about the Snape/Lily/James triangle Razz

Snape may have loved Lily, but I don't think it's the reason Snape crossed over to the good side. I think it has to do more with James saving Snape's life. Remember the bond that's formed between wizards, when one saves the other. In wizard Karmic retribution Snape really screwed up- when he told Voldemort the prophecy that led to Lily and James' demise. He crossed over to the good side and has been saving Harry time and again, even though he loathes Harry. He even gives Harry pointers as he is fleeing. "Potter, deflected time and time again unless you learn to keep your mouth and your mind shut!" I agree that Snape was on a fishing expedition and didn't know exactly what the vow meant when he made it. I do believe he told Dumbledore and they made plans. I think they faked Dumbledore's death. See Dumbledore returns posts. At first, I beleived him to be evil, now I do not.
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Posts: 583 · Posted: November 20, 2005 7:22 am Post subject:

Note to Pensive: I'm not a lady. Or a romantic for that matter.
The Snape\Lily thing is just one of many theories concerning Snape's innocence. It's a possibility, not a certainty. We don't really know what J.K has up her sleeve. You can't predict everything in Harry Potter.
Snape may have crossed because James saved his life. I'm not sure if he saved Harry all those times just because James did the same for him. Maybe once, just to repay the debt. He probably thinks it's his duty to Dumbledore. He probably wishes James hadn't saved his life. Imagine being in the debt of someone you hate!
I'm not sure about Dumbledore's return. J.K said that she was going to kill off a character every book. She wouldn't bring them back. Harry's on his own now. Maybe Snape will help him out at some part. The location of any of the Horcruxes? Maybe. He's proved himself to Voldemort. He might use that as cover to dig up some information.
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Well you’re obviously a guy but me thinks you are a romantic, ha ha Laughing

, Anyway good post I’m referring to other one of course very well thought out .
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