Actually...what about the Harry/Hermione kiss in DH?
That should be an interesting one to watch when the movie finally comes out. _________________ The boy who lived marries the wrong girl.
The girl whom he loves can not be his.
Harry, and Hermione...shoulda been!
I was so happy when Ron and Hermione kissed.
I read that part like a million times.
It just made me so happy. :]
This is what my face looked like when I read it, then I was like NOOOOOOOOOOO, sniffle, sniffle what about Harry. _________________ The boy who lived marries the wrong girl.
The girl whom he loves can not be his.
Harry, and Hermione...shoulda been!
Bother kisses were perfectly written by JKR. I like Harry/Ginny because it was in front of everyone. Ron/Hermione was great too but only Harry saw it.
Harry and Ginny declared their love in front of every Gryfindor at the party. That's sweet...*awwww*
Oh, yeah and here's a note to "Harry loves Hermione" They never loved each other. Sorry. I wish it could have happened too but then again, harry can't have everything happen to him. And we don't want to leave out Ron and Ginny... unless you see them getting together _________________ Name: Mark Daniel
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Bother kisses were perfectly written by JKR. I like Harry/Ginny because it was in front of everyone. Ron/Hermione was great too but only Harry saw it.
Harry and Ginny declared their love in front of every Gryfindor at the party. That's sweet...*awwww*
Oh, yeah and here's a note to "Harry loves Hermione" They never loved each other. Sorry. I wish it could have happened too but then again, harry can't have everything happen to him. And we don't want to leave out Ron and Ginny... unless you see them getting together
nono - ron + ginny = but ginny would be a better fit with dean (IMHO) and I think ron would be a better fit with Luna, and she also seems to fancy him.
I just think that Harry should be with the girl who is most like him (brave, smart, willing to do what must be done, etc.) I mean in all seriousness what does Ron have that Harry doesn't? _________________ The boy who lived marries the wrong girl.
The girl whom he loves can not be his.
Harry, and Hermione...shoulda been!
Bother kisses were perfectly written by JKR. I like Harry/Ginny because it was in front of everyone. Ron/Hermione was great too but only Harry saw it.
Harry and Ginny declared their love in front of every Gryfindor at the party. That's sweet...*awwww*
Oh, yeah and here's a note to "Harry loves Hermione" They never loved each other. Sorry. I wish it could have happened too but then again, harry can't have everything happen to him. And we don't want to leave out Ron and Ginny... unless you see them getting together
nono - ron + ginny = but ginny would be a better fit with dean (IMHO) and I think ron would be a better fit with Luna, and she also seems to fancy him.
I just think that Harry should be with the girl who is most like him (brave, smart, willing to do what must be done, etc.) I mean in all seriousness what does Ron have that Harry doesn't?
What does Harry have that Ron doesn't? _________________ ^made by Fiendfyre
I just think that Harry should be with the girl who is most like him (brave, smart, willing to do what must be done, etc.)
sounds like Ginny to me
I agree.
AND I'd like to point out that Ron is also brave and willing to do what must be done. And for some reason people think of Ron as being not so bright... but he got the same grades Harry did. So by that logic, shouldn't he be the one who deserves Hermione? _________________ ^made by Fiendfyre
I just think that Harry should be with the girl who is most like him (brave, smart, willing to do what must be done, etc.)
sounds like Ginny to me
I agree.
AND I'd like to point out that Ron is also brave and willing to do what must be done. And for some reason people think of Ron as being not so bright... but he got the same grades Harry did. So by that logic, shouldn't he be the one who deserves Hermione?
To the first: Ginny opened up the Chamber of Secrets - so she's gullable (because of the Diary), yes she was all those things, but Hermione was also them, and she was them to a higher power than either ginny or ron.
Harry has fame, a bunch of gold - but those arn't things that Hermione likes.
Harry has courage to do things Ron can't do, has the brains to match Hermione (he just doesn't aply himself), and was willing to die for his friends (Ron did abandon his friends) _________________ The boy who lived marries the wrong girl.
The girl whom he loves can not be his.
Harry, and Hermione...shoulda been!
To the first: Ginny opened up the Chamber of Secrets - so she's gullable (because of the Diary), yes she was all those things, but Hermione was also them, and she was them to a higher power than either ginny or ron.
She was possessed! Not gullible. And besides, Ginny was NOT the first person Tom Riddle charmed. You can't blame an 11 year old girl for being possessed by a charmer.
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Harry has fame, a bunch of gold - but those arn't things that Hermione likes.
Right, and Ron isn't any of those things, either. And Ginny care about that stuff, either.
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Harry has courage to do things Ron can't do, has the brains to match Hermione (he just doesn't aply himself), and was willing to die for his friends (Ron did abandon his friends)
What can Harry do that Ron can't? When has Ron ever said "no" and then Harry went and did it? Ron doesn't apply himself, either. NOWHERE in the book does it say or imply that Harry is smarter than Ron. And besides, just because Hermione is mart it doesn't mean she wants a boyfriend who is as smart as her. And with that kind of rationalization, what kind of girl does Neville deserve? Or does he not apply himself, either?
The locket was playing with his head... he tried to come right back and couldn't.
Ron is no less deserving of Hermione than Harry. Ron is smart, he just doesn't apply himself. He is good at sports, he just get's nervous. He is just as brave and is willing to die for his friends. He even jumped into a freezing lake to rescue Harry. He tried to get to Hermione while she was being tortured. He doesn't have money, he isn't famous. He's funny, thoughtful, and sweet. Why doesn't Ron deserve Hermione? _________________ ^made by Fiendfyre
Hermione is the brightest witch of their generation (she may even rival Dumbledore when she gets older,) and everyone tells Harry he is as smart as his mother - he also has the brains to figure out stuff that ron can't (such as myrtle.)
Harry proves that he cares more about himself than his friends time and time again: he refuses to let Hermione go through the fire to face Snape (Quirell) - granted Ron did givehimself up so that harry and hermione could go on, but it wasn't quite the same magnatue - close though -- in book two he goes after Ginny alone, even though he knows what he is going to find, knows that it will kill him. In book three He saves himself and Sirius from the dementors even though if one of them had seen him he could have died (theoreticly 2x in the span of minutes)
Forth book, he tries to save Hermione as well as ron, and then ends up saving Fleur's little sister. Book 5 doesn't want anyone to come with him, because he doesn't want them to get hurt, and even takes on death eaters so they will leave his friends alone.
And in 7 he goes to die - litterly die so that all his friends will live. He believes that he's going to die for good, and he just goes anyway - doesn't think he's comeing back, he just goes to die.
So, while Ron is an outstanding person - a student who has to get more help from Hermione than Harry, and is a brave soul, I don't believe he's upto the callabur that Harry is (nor should he be, being that Harry is the hero of the book!) _________________ The boy who lived marries the wrong girl.
The girl whom he loves can not be his.
Harry, and Hermione...shoulda been!
Hermione is the brightest witch of their generation (she may even rival Dumbledore when she gets older,) and everyone tells Harry he is as smart as his mother - he also has the brains to figure out stuff that ron can't (such as myrtle.)
smart+smart does not= perfect couple. First of all. And Ron is just as smart as Harry. Nowhere in any of the books does it say or imply that Harry is smarter than Ron. Harry figures stuff out... guess what, so does Ron. Ron firgured out to use the Basilisk fangs from the Chamber.
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Harry proves that he cares more about himself than his friends time and time again: he refuses to let Hermione go through the fire to face Snape (Quirell) - granted Ron did givehimself up so that harry and hermione could go on, but it wasn't quite the same magnatue - close though --
How is what Ron did not as great as what harry did? Ron out and out sacrificed his life so Harry could continue on. It was RON that said Harry should go alone. Harry only agreed.
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in book two he goes after Ginny alone, even though he knows what he is going to find, knows that it will kill him.
He had to, Ron was stuck behind the rocks that collapsed when Lockhart's charm backfired.
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In book three He saves himself and Sirius from the dementors even though if one of them had seen him he could have died (theoreticly 2x in the span of minutes)
Ron would have done the same, had he not broken his leg. Plus, he didn't know the Patronus Charm. But Harry did and he was at the right place at the right time. That still doesn't make him more brave or better or more righteous than Ron.
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Forth book, he tries to save Hermione as well as ron, and then ends up saving Fleur's little sister.
Harry said that if they had seen how it was under the water, they'd have doen the same. And I think so, too.
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Book 5 doesn't want anyone to come with him, because he doesn't want them to get hurt, and even takes on death eaters so they will leave his friends alone.
And he does the same thing in DH, he tries to talk them out of coming. But in the end, Harry needed them there. So it was good that the others were persistant.
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And in 7 he goes to die - litterly die so that all his friends will live. He believes that he's going to die for good, and he just goes anyway - doesn't think he's comeing back, he just goes to die.
And that was very admirable. But it still doesn't explain why he'd be a "better" match for Hermione. Ron made plenty of sacrifices for her. Ad if he had to die for her and his family and friends, who's to say he wouldn't? I think he wuld. In a second.
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So, while Ron is an outstanding person - a student who has to get more help from Hermione than Harry,
Wait, what??? When did Ron need help when Harry didn't?
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and is a brave soul, I don't believe he's upto the callabur that Harry is (nor should he be, being that Harry is the hero of the book!)
Harry is the hero, of course he has to make the sacrifice. If it was Ron's story he'd have gone into the forest to sacrifice himself.
But it's Harry's story and he got the girl he wanted, Ginny.
Ron is the sidekick. And the two sidekicks got each other. _________________ ^made by Fiendfyre
I'm fighting two battles, neither of which i can win (because the books say I loose, oh well, here we go again)
Ok, first: this is just a story - must keep that in perspective.
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smart+smart does not= perfect couple. First of all. And Ron is just as smart as Harry. Nowhere in any of the books does it say or imply that Harry is smarter than Ron. Harry figures stuff out... guess what, so does Ron. Ron firgured out to use the Basilisk fangs from the Chamber.
Since the story revolves around Harry, the predominent person solveing riddles, figureing things out is Harry. In the sixth book, Harry doesnt' ask Hermione for help as much as Ron does (perhaps he's trying to let them have time together) but that is what I'm baseing the "Harry doesn't need as much help, and harry's slightly smarter" on.
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Harry proves that he cares more about himself than his friends time and time again: he refuses to let Hermione go through the fire to face Snape (Quirell) - granted Ron did givehimself up so that harry and hermione could go on, but it wasn't quite the same magnatue - close though --
How is what Ron did not as great as what harry did? Ron out and out sacrificed his life so Harry could continue on. It was RON that said Harry should go alone. Harry only agreed.
QUICK NOTE: I goofed this it's suposed to be that he proves that he cares more about others than himself
Ron didn't go into the final room and confront Lord Voldemort - Harry refused to let Hermione go in, even though she was the smarter one, and even though she may have gotten the riddle quicker, he wouldn't let her go.
Ron didn't have to make that choice - would he have? we don't know, because he didn't get a chance to.
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He had to, Ron was stuck behind the rocks that collapsed when Lockhart's charm backfired.
And Harry could have said "I'll wait" he could have waited for Ron, or Dumbledore or anybody else to come, he chose to go it alone. He didn't chicken out, he did it himself. Once again - we don't know if Ron could have done it, because Ron is stuck behind a bunch of rocks
Book 3: I'll consede that point - can't think of a good argument for it
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Harry said that if they had seen how it was under the water, they'd have doen the same. And I think so, too.
Harry says this - but that doesn't mean they would. Hermione - yes I can believe she would, and I would like to believe Ron would as well, but the point is Harry took a chance to help a complete stranger (Fleur's sister) He was willing to sacrifice himself for someone whom he had NEVER met. I don't know if Ron would have done that
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And that was very admirable. But it still doesn't explain why he'd be a "better" match for Hermione. Ron made plenty of sacrifices for her. Ad if he had to die for her and his family and friends, who's to say he wouldn't? I think he wuld. In a
I agree with out on this last part. I think he would die for Hermione, but that also doesn't mean he's the "best" for her.
The biggest reason I think Harry should be with Hermione is because throught the series she stays with him, after the Troll in PS she never leaves him (except to be petrifided by a giant basilisk), Ron does leave, and ron gets pissed at harry and won't talk to him, etc.
Hermione even sides with Harry when she knows that it upsets Ron, she even stayed with Harry when Ron left (yes it was under the Horcrux's influence but he still left). I just believe that someone who is willing to do that is someone who cares about you more than just a brother/sister bond, or a best friend bond.
to me, that's a bond that shows that hermione loves harry. _________________ The boy who lived marries the wrong girl.
The girl whom he loves can not be his.
Harry, and Hermione...shoulda been!
And Harry could have said "I'll wait" he could have waited for Ron, or Dumbledore or anybody else to come, he chose to go it alone. He didn't chicken out, he did it himself. Once again - we don't know if Ron could have done it, because Ron is stuck behind a bunch of rocks
0_o waited while Ginny was in there with the basilisk???? That wasn't an option! _________________ They say home is where the heart is, so your real home's in your chest. --Captain Hammer
I'm fighting two battles, neither of which i can win (because the books say I loose, oh well, here we go again)
I know, but isn't this fun?
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Since the story revolves around Harry, the predominent person solveing riddles, figureing things out is Harry. In the sixth book, Harry doesnt' ask Hermione for help as much as Ron does (perhaps he's trying to let them have time together) but that is what I'm baseing the "Harry doesn't need as much help, and harry's slightly smarter" on.
I didn't notice a huge difference in the help Ron asked for compared to Harry. It seems that whenever she helps Ron, she is also helping Harry.
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Ron didn't go into the final room and confront Lord Voldemort - Harry refused to let Hermione go in, even though she was the smarter one, and even though she may have gotten the riddle quicker, he wouldn't let her go.
Harry only got the idea to not allow Hermione to go in because of Ron. It was his idea. And then he sacrificed himself, nearly getting killed. So it was Ron's idea that Hermione should not go in, not Harry's.
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And Harry could have said "I'll wait" he could have waited for Ron, or Dumbledore or anybody else to come, he chose to go it alone. He didn't chicken out, he did it himself. Once again - we don't know if Ron could have done it, because Ron is stuck behind a bunch of rocks
They couldn't waste time, they didn't even know whether or not Ginny was still alive. Harry told Ron to shift the rocks around so they'd be able to get out. Then he went on ahead. It wasn't out of nobility, it was out of desperation and lack of time. Harry did do it by himself and we'll never know if Ron could have done it. But we do know that Ron was more than willing to try.
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Harry says this - but that doesn't mean they would. Hermione - yes I can believe she would, and I would like to believe Ron would as well, but the point is Harry took a chance to help a complete stranger (Fleur's sister) He was willing to sacrifice himself for someone whom he had NEVER met. I don't know if Ron would have done that
Of course I think Hermione would. I definitely think Ron would... he did help Fleur's sister to land when Harry told him she wasn't a good swimmer.
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The biggest reason I think Harry should be with Hermione is because throught the series she stays with him, after the Troll in PS she never leaves him (except to be petrifided by a giant basilisk), Ron does leave, and ron gets pissed at harry and won't talk to him, etc.
Well, friends do fight. And couples fight. Both Harry and Ron get mad at Hermione in PoA and neither of them speak to her. It was Ron who began speaking to her again first after he heard about Buckbeak's appeal. When Hermione went and slapped Malfoy, it was Ron who spoke up first, he admired that she stood up to Malfoy.
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Hermione even sides with Harry when she knows that it upsets Ron, she even stayed with Harry when Ron left (yes it was under the Horcrux's influence but he still left). I just believe that someone who is willing to do that is someone who cares about you more than just a brother/sister bond, or a best friend bond.
to me, that's a bond that shows that hermione loves harry.
But Ron only left because of the Horcrux's influence. He can't be held responsible for his actions. It's not that he wouldn't make the right choice, he couldn't. And that's a huge difference.
And throughout all of DH it's Ron and Hermione who keep calling out for each other and it's Ron and Hermione who keep comforting each other.
Ron is sweet and kind and he makes her laugh. He helps her up when she's on the ground, and fights for her. Hermione and Harry have a strong bond, bit it's nowhere near the bond Hermione and Ron have. It's not stronger, just different. _________________ ^made by Fiendfyre
in my eyes harry and hermiones kiss doesnt count. it was a horcrux-induced hallucination. but id say harry and ginnys cuz it was in front of everyone and totally spontaneous and it laid it all on the line to see if ron approved or not. i was happy with the outcome haha _________________
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