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weasleytwins
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PostPosted: June 29, 2006 4:07 pm    Post subject: dudley Reply with quote

dudley possibly a wizard?

somewhere on mugglenet i think it was suggested that dudley was born a wizard and that petunia had a deal withdumbledore to protect harry as long as dudley was not involved in the magical world at all.

i thought this was interesting........not very believeable, in fact it would just be stupid. but fun to discuss nevertheless.

pro evidence:

1)when hagrid cast a spell on dudley to make him a pig, dudley did not fully change to a pig, just got a tail. dudley was very scared at the time and we know that when wizards feel a very strong emotion, such as fear, they can perform magic. so, possibly dudley, without meaning to, fought the spell. the fact that he "was too much like a pig already" was not very believeable.

2) the diet he went on didnt seem to work. harry could grow back his hair. maybe dudley could gain back his weight.


con evidence:

1) hagrid only when to hogwarts for 3 years. he couldnt have mastered human transfiguration. and he was using half of a wand.

2)perhaps he snuck food, his diet plain old didnt work, or maybe it did work and im remembering wrong.


just something to think about.

any ideas????
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PostPosted: June 29, 2006 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have good suggestions but I don't think Dudley would be a wizard and that Petunia made a plan with Dumbledore. Just doesn't seem believable to me.
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PostPosted: June 29, 2006 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason Dudley didn't change into a full pig was because Hagrid wasn't very good at magic because he was exspell from Hogwarts and his wand had been snapped in half. I have been reading the books backwards so far. Haven't read number six yet.
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PostPosted: June 29, 2006 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cool!
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PostPosted: June 30, 2006 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, Dudley isn't a wizard. The diet wasn't working, because Dudley loves to eat, and he could have covertly eaten food. Hagrid has never been good at magic, and as Lilly said he was expelled from Hogwarts. Only someone like Dumbledore could have turned Dudley completely into a pig. And if he was a wizard, Dudley might have discovered his powers by now. You can't 'squash the magic out of someone' as Aunt Petunia tried to do with Harry. So Dudley would have been freely abusing his powers.
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Just like Tom Riddle in the orphanage, in book 6


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PostPosted: July 1, 2006 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dudley and wizard shouldn't be used in the same sentence unless not is also in that sentence.

To far fetched for me to believe that he would be a wizard...
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PostPosted: July 2, 2006 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

true, true!

good points, guys. Smile
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PostPosted: July 8, 2006 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and plus Jo said in an interview that there was nothing more to dudley than meets the eye.

I'm not sure which one but i did read the manuscript
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PostPosted: July 10, 2006 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While it is kind of a fun theory, I don't think it's true. As someone else already said, Dudley would have discovered his powers by now if he were a wizard.
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PostPosted: July 10, 2006 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dudly is not a wizard
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PostPosted: July 11, 2006 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dudley is a muggle!
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PostPosted: July 12, 2006 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, he is. Even if he was one, he'd be too stupid too realise it. Very Happy
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PostPosted: July 12, 2006 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL That is very true!
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PostPosted: July 13, 2006 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah , he would blow something up and then scratch his head and say, "Now how did that happen?" Laughing
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PostPosted: July 13, 2006 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then we all come to find out...Dudley accidentally blew up Aunt Marge! Everyone just pinned in on Harry!Smile
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PostPosted: July 15, 2006 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL, and yes, you're right. No way is Dudley a wizard. Bleck, can you imagine that? Nah, it's not possible. Interesting theory, nonetheless, and fun to debate and explore.
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PostPosted: July 16, 2006 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Na... if he was, he would ahve done stuff Harry did, like the galss and the snake in book 1, and what is more, ho would abuse taht kind of power to bully others...
Can you imagine the reactions of his parents if he was?!?!? (BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Laughing Twisted Evil )
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PostPosted: October 29, 2006 2:34 am    Post subject: Another Dursley with magic? Reply with quote

It is said somewhere, I think JKR's website that another cahracter will perform magic very late in life, meaning didn't know they could or something like that?
Maybe it is Petunia?
Her sister was a witch after all, and maybe she never tried or put any stock into it because she hated it and thought it was rubbish, Maybe she somehow protects Harry in an unexpected way?
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PostPosted: October 29, 2006 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like that entire Petunia thory... I think she has started to like Harry, even if she doesn't know it yet...
and she did love her sister...
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PostPosted: November 9, 2006 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok just imaging this now, if dudley really is a wizard and he had to go to hogwarts what house would he be in? do you think he would be in slytherin?
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PostPosted: November 9, 2006 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm betting Slytherin, he is very mean. He'd fit right in!
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PostPosted: November 26, 2006 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, JKR said that Petunia is definately NOT a witch and will NOT do magic. But if Dudley was a wizard, they would have realized it in SS/PS. I think Aunt Petunia would have had a heart attack if she found out they were both wizards! Laughing
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PostPosted: November 26, 2006 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, well, but if Pertuna and Vernon had an agreement with DD; they'd take Harry in if Dudley never became a wizard...
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PostPosted: November 26, 2006 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They never really talked with Dumbledore, Dumbledore just left a note. Aunt Petunia probably knew that DD would know whether they had taken Harry in or not. Plus, she was probably worried about Dumbledore's wrath if they had simply kicked Harry to the curb.
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PostPosted: November 28, 2006 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tessa wrote:
Yeah, well, but if Pertuna and Vernon had an agreement with DD; they'd take Harry in if Dudley never became a wizard...

but dd can't decide if a person "becomes" a wizard... he can just offer them to go to hogwats
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