I don't understand how they can screw it up so much and be happy about releaseing it into theaters.
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Why didn't dobby tell harry about the room of requirement? Why wasn't the swamp brought in? Why wasn't the interview that was in the quibbler even talked about? Cho never ratted them out, Marrietta(spelling?) did. What happened to the OWL exams, McGonagall never got attacked durring the astronamy exam. What about going to the hospital after Mr Weasly got attacked. Harry having lessons with snape the night of the attack. WOW they messed up alot
Alot of people have mentioned the swamp, yeah it wuld have been fun to see but whats the big fuss about?? It isn't imortant for the story so why worry about it? _________________ Bubbles
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they did get it right...they cut down the longest book into the shortest movie, yet still made it a good movie. sure, the die-hard book lovers wont like it, but mostly everyone else will. you gotta remember, this is a movie. _________________
I think most of things you listed were more of things YOU WANTED to be in the movie... not WHAT NEEDED to be in the movie... i think they still got the message of what OoP was about. Believe me i wish those scenes were in too... but the movie was still good.
OOTP turned out more disappointing because it was much longer in book form than the rest, yet the same(similar) length as the rest in the movies. That's why it was truncated so heavily.
Truncated? It was nothing less than a disaster. Believe me, they left significant parts out for anyone who is attempting to guess at the overall plot. But for a couple of hours of entertainment, they did fine. I mean, people who have not read the books will like it. I think it sucked totally, but if I hadn't read the books I would likely have found the movie mildly entertaining.
Frankly, some parts I understood just because I had read the book. My sister, who has not read it was asking me questions the whole time. She was like, what? On the other hands, the kids we took with us loved it. They didn't care that they didn't understand totally, they just liked the magic scenes and they understood that 'Harry had defeated Voldemort once again.' That was enough for them. So I think lots of kids will like it; adults will be mildly amused and avid book junkies will walk away shaking their heads in disgust.
I was being modest. In the cinema with my friends, I looked away from the screen in certain scenes that as you say are, a disaster. The function of the the RoR was severely meddled with. When Umbridge broke in I felt embarrassed watching.
I've learned that if you want to enjoy the movies, you have to think of them as separate storylines. I wouldn't read the book just before watching the movie. I would watch the previous movies, and consider it its own series.
As others have mentioned, you can't possibly expect the writers/directors to include everything in the book. 800-something pages needs to be condensed into a two and a half hour movie. Most people aren't going to sit through it for 3+ hours. The book junkies will, probably, and maybe some people who are just HP-obsessed, but the way to get the most people in seats is to cut out parts that aren't absolutely necessary to understanding the main plot. And that's what making movies is about - getting people to watch them ($$)
I thought the 5th movie was the best movie yet. Interestingly enough, I was quite disappointed with the 5th book the first time I read it (however long ago that was) because I felt it dragged on for too long and was quite boring in parts. This movie had my full attention for the full 2 hours and 18 (?) minutes.
So basically what I'm saying is, if you expect the movie to follow the book exactly, you'll be disappointed. If you forget it's even based on a book and think of it solely as a movie, it's pretty awesome. _________________
I posted my faults for the movie in the "which is better, book or film?" topic, but for all those reasons the TC posted, and alot more, this was definetly the worst, some parts made me cringe. _________________ I play POKEMON!!
I was very disappointed with this movie. It was too choppy, it left out a lot of info from the book, but the worst is it completely changed facts. I actually became angry as I watched it ... examples ... Cho being responsible for DA getting busted? Umbridge breaking the door to the room of requirement and Lucious Malfoy blackmailing Harry into giving him the prophecy and then dropping it? They left out Ron playing quidditch and the whole "Weasley is our King". Also, they left out the part of Kreacher decieving Harry.. I know they can't include everything from the book and that modifications had to be made, but they could have added another 20 minutes to the movie and made it much better. I was sooo disappointed that they left out St. Mungo's. That would have been an awesome scene. Oh well... I am happy for those who enjoyed it.
Honestly... I'm not trying to be mean but if you walked into that theater expecting to see an almost carbon copy of the book... then I don't feel bad for you one bit. I've always heard my entire life "the book is better". Not just with HP with EVERYTHING that was originally a book.
There is more story in a book because a book allows for that. Movies are completely separate and you have to have the ability to enjoy them for what they are, if not, then you are just going to get mad and complain a lot.
Personally I thought the film had an artistic edge that the previous four did not have. So just from that standpoint I thought it was good.
But the main thing is I got to see a visual representation for 2 hours and 15 minutes of Harry Potter so I'm going to take it for what I know it is and try to enjoy it and I did.
A lot of people who didn't like it probably walked in with that type of attitude, that if this plot wasn't displayed or if they didn't show this or that, they wouldn't like the movie. That's all fine and good, people can do whatever they want, just don't expect to enjoy a movie that way and don't expect for those who did allow themselves to enjoy it to think it was some embarrassment of a film, because it wasn't.
You can say it was all you want, but it wasn't. Sure there were things I wish they wouldn't have changed or would have put in or elaborated on but oh well, they didn't.
Anyways, you'll all have DH's in a few days and in 3 years when it comes out in the movies you can come back here and tell us how bad it sucked. _________________
Obviously, it's not nearly as wonderful and detailed as the books. But in my opinion it was DEFINITELY the best out of the prior 4 films. I've seen it twice so far.
Thank goodness the world is full of people with different opinions and different likes or dislikes. It is what makes discussions and boards such as this interesting.
I loved the first 4 movies and they were not carbon copies of the book. I was not expecting OOTP to be a crabon copy of the book. Be that as it may, I still thought this movie was lousy for all the reasons in my prior post. I do not say this as an insult to those who enjoyed it. My husband thought it was great and he is the greatest muggle in the world. Peace
I thought it was a good movie... but nothing compared to the book. Does anyone understand what I mean if I say that the films move quickly? I dont know how else to put it... I know they miss chunks out and although its annoying I understand why they have to do it. But I just sit there the whole time wondering whether the non-readers are keeping up lol? Or if its like a diff story to them.. ? _________________ Forecast for tomorrow; a few sprinkles of genius with a chance of doom!
Went to watch the film yesterday and i have to say im a bit dissapointed. Yeah the film was ok, best one yet, acting improved etc. But why did they have to mess it up so much. Ok i understand that they couldnt cop the book exactly, and i didnt expect them to.
But if you are going to copy a scene from the book atleast get it right, how hard could it be. Im not going into detail, but thats my only dissapointment in the film, they have changed a lot of stuff and i bet anyone who havent read the book didnt understand the film. _________________ Light travels faster than sound. Thats why some people appear bright until you hear them speak!
I actually think it helped that I saw it later than most and couldn't keep myself away from spoilers. I had time to work past all the changes they made before I had even seen it. I just let them roll off me and I really enjoyed myself. though the first several minutes I didn't like...they totally had Arabella all wrong! *huff*
but with Cho...at least they explained that she had been veritaserumed into it. and without SPEW (which really isn't necessary to the over all plot) Dobby finding the RoR would have been way too random. However they did keep some lines word for word (as far as I could tell) from the books and even put a goat in the Hogs Head as a shout-out to those who know its really Aberforth. But I do wonder if people who have just seen it really understand the prophecy, or know whether Neville's parents are dead or what. _________________ They say home is where the heart is, so your real home's in your chest. --Captain Hammer
Honestly... I'm not trying to be mean but if you walked into that theater expecting to see an almost carbon copy of the book... then I don't feel bad for you one bit. I've always heard my entire life "the book is better". Not just with HP with EVERYTHING that was originally a book.
There is more story in a book because a book allows for that. Movies are completely separate and you have to have the ability to enjoy them for what they are, if not, then you are just going to get mad and complain a lot.
Personally I thought the film had an artistic edge that the previous four did not have. So just from that standpoint I thought it was good.
But the main thing is I got to see a visual representation for 2 hours and 15 minutes of Harry Potter so I'm going to take it for what I know it is and try to enjoy it and I did.
A lot of people who didn't like it probably walked in with that type of attitude, that if this plot wasn't displayed or if they didn't show this or that, they wouldn't like the movie. That's all fine and good, people can do whatever they want, just don't expect to enjoy a movie that way and don't expect for those who did allow themselves to enjoy it to think it was some embarrassment of a film, because it wasn't.
You can say it was all you want, but it wasn't. Sure there were things I wish they wouldn't have changed or would have put in or elaborated on but oh well, they didn't.
Anyways, you'll all have DH's in a few days and in 3 years when it comes out in the movies you can come back here and tell us how bad it sucked.
Thank you!
Now everyone quit your whining - just kidding. I just don't see how the directors/writers leaving out so much could have been a surprise to people.
As for the movie moving too quickly through things, yeah, it did. But I've talked with others who haven't read the book and the general consensus is that they were able to understand the plot just fine. I'm sure this is different for some. _________________
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- just kidding. I just don't see how the directors/writers leaving out so much could have been a surprise to people.