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RiddleisOurKing
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PostPosted: July 11, 2007 8:38 pm    Post subject: Sirius' final scene *Spoiler* do not enter if you haven't Reply with quote

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Was Sirius actually hit with the AK curse or did he dodge it and step into the veil and get sucked in? Because if he got hit with it, it didn't kill him instantly like we have always seen in the movies and read in the books! This is the part I did not like, it bothers me. Why not just get stupified into the veil? He was dead before he went into the veil if the curse hit him, I don't get it...


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PostPosted: July 11, 2007 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I didn't get it either. Because if he was hit with the AK curse how in the world was he able to look at harry and such. It should've killed him instantly. It didn't make sense. Idk.


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PostPosted: July 11, 2007 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

probably want to use the spoiler tags just to be on the safe side.
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PostPosted: July 11, 2007 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From Wikipedia.org
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Sirius gets hit by the killing curse then falls backwards through the Veil.


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PostPosted: July 11, 2007 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jaden wrote:
From Wikipedia.org
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Sirius gets hit by the killing curse then falls backwards through the Veil.



is that from the book or the movie...cause in the book i dont remember it saying that and in the movie i guess he couldve been hit but he looked at harry and stuff so it seems like he just fell into the veil
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PostPosted: July 11, 2007 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Movie. That's why everyone's a little upset about it.
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PostPosted: July 11, 2007 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't think it hit him.
He was definitely alive when he fell through.


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PostPosted: July 11, 2007 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't seen the movie but I heard about this. In the book it is just a spell, you don't know what it is. But he is still alive, and he falls into the veil.

So this doesn't make sense at all.
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PostPosted: July 11, 2007 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You know what I think it didn't hit him. I think he still LIVES!
*is triumphant*
Kinda like i think Dumbledore is going to come back to life


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PostPosted: July 12, 2007 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i expected so be soooo sad when it happened, but the emotion pretty much disapparated when i saw this scene. the movie was great, this was a big flaw though in my opinion. but it was my favorite movie so far
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PostPosted: July 12, 2007 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't think he looked at anyone. He definatly fell back into the veil, but to me it didn't seem like he actually looked at people, more that he was killed and fell back.
I will see it again and will pay more attention to it. But to me seeing it, that's what it looked like to me.
Like Cedric, he died with his eye's open, so did Sirius.


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PostPosted: July 12, 2007 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He may of been in the veil when it hit him so it wouldnt of actually hit him it would of hit the force field thing If that is possible it all went to quick so I will have to see it again.
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PostPosted: July 12, 2007 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, this part pissed me off too... the director changed so much stuff in the movie its rediculous.
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PostPosted: July 12, 2007 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They should have made more effort with the last scene and not modified it so much. Sirius was kind of shocked when the spell hit him, just like in the book, although he kinda fidgeted before being thrown back. Avada Kedavra is instant death is it not?



And is it me, or do Stupefy, Expelliarmus and such all seem to knock back. Also there is no Reducto. And the colour is inconsistent. Isn't Expelliarmus meant to be red in colour?
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PostPosted: July 12, 2007 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and also in the last scene...everyone was perfect with wordless magic...it just seemed like a bunch of wand waving
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PostPosted: July 12, 2007 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yeah it seemed like they were perfect with wordless spell casting and it kind of made me mad. but I expect things in the movie to be different and just accept them. But it bothers me still darn it!!!

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PostPosted: July 12, 2007 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

also they used levi corpus...and that is a book early? because harry doesn't use the spell himself until HBP
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PostPosted: July 12, 2007 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vlad wrote:


And is it me, or do Stupefy, Expelliarmus and such all seem to knock back. Also there is no Reducto. And the colour is inconsistent. Isn't Expelliarmus meant to be red in colour?


Yes they do and yes there IS a Reducto jinx that destroys what it hits.
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PostPosted: July 12, 2007 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in the book it is presumed to be a stunning spell because red light comes out of her wand that hits Sirius, sending him through the veil.
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PostPosted: July 12, 2007 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't think he looked at anyone. He definatly fell back into the veil, but to me it didn't seem like he actually looked at people, more that he was killed and fell back.
I will see it again and will pay more attention to it. But to me seeing it, that's what it looked like to me.
Like Cedric, he died with his eye's open, so did Sirius.



From what I remember, his eyes moved after he got hit.
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PostPosted: July 12, 2007 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looked like to me he was still alive, looking at Harry.

I just loved when he said "Nice one James."
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PostPosted: July 12, 2007 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Normally little things likee that bother me. But this film was so GREAT that to me it doesn't matter. Sirius death was craap in the book as well, so it no suprise to me that it looked crap in the film. JK should have found a better way to kill him.....if he really had to die.

I loved the film, it definatly the best one!!! I am just hoping HBP will be as good (it's my fav book).
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PostPosted: July 12, 2007 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i was paying very close attention to this scene as i though it was going to be the best...........so this is what im 99% sure of...........
he did get hit with the AK curse......and he did look at harry........then fall into the veil.............


it must have been the producers fault...........idk.............
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PostPosted: July 12, 2007 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote