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RiddleisOurKing
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I heard Mcgonigal KILLED Sybil in the swimsuit competition at the 712th annual Ms. Hogwarts pageant.
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HRH2013
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| Posted: July 1, 2007 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| like harry will die in his third year. |
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Arabella
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| Posted: July 1, 2007 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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*sneaks up behind HRH and wacks him repeatedly* bother bother bother bother bother!
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HRH2013
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| Posted: July 1, 2007 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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I love Potter Puppet Pals!!!  |
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LostDog-Padfoot
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I'm rereading the sixth book (again) and um big question here  Why exactly did Trelawney (curse her name I can never spell it) want to get in the room of Requirement. We know she was hiding something and has been for years, but uhhhhhhhhh what and why???????
Okay its long so I will sum some of it up. Hary asks Trelawney (or w/e) why she was in the Roq. she responds with
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| omens I have been vouchsafed --- what?" she looked suddenly shifty |
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| I wished to --ah deposit certain --um-- personal items in the room. And she muttered something about "nasty accusastions |
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| I walked into the room and I heard a voice, which has never happened before in all my years of hiding --- of using the room, I mean. |
HBP 542 JKR
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RiddleisOurKing
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| Posted: July 2, 2007 9:08 am Post subject: |
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I think she was trying to hide all the empty Chery bottles because she didn't want anyone to find out she is an alcoholic.
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halfbloodprincess
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| Posted: July 2, 2007 9:13 am Post subject: |
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haha... yes that...
i actually like trelawney. and i pity her coz nobody believes her. she reminds me of the trojan princess who was a seer, cassandra.
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LostDog-Padfoot
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| Posted: July 2, 2007 9:21 am Post subject: |
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Cherry bottles . . . .yes that makes sense . . . shucks though i was hoping for something a bit more dramatic.
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EssenceOfPhlegm
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I don't believe she is a fraud.
She made the prediction that Neville would break his cup - He did.
She made the prediction about (I forgot who's) Rabbit dying. - It did.
She made the prediction about Hermione leaving their number forever (meaning that she would leave Divination) - She did.
She made the prediction about Wormtail returning - He did.
She made the Prophecy.. |
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LostDog-Padfoot
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| Posted: July 3, 2007 9:27 am Post subject: |
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We know she isn't a fraud - the prophecy
When not having visions (like the prophecy) she is pathetic and the rest is guesswork
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halfbloodprincess
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| Posted: July 3, 2007 10:15 am Post subject: |
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thats because no one believes her.
and before i forget... she made the lightning struck tower prediction.
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LostDog-Padfoot
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| Posted: July 3, 2007 11:04 am Post subject: |
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Yeah I forgot about the tower 
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Arabella
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| Posted: July 3, 2007 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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I don't believe she is a fraud.
She made the prediction that Neville would break his cup - He did.
She made the prediction about (I forgot who's) Rabbit dying. - It did.
She made the prediction about Hermione leaving their number forever (meaning that she would leave Divination) - She did.
She made the prediction about Wormtail returning - He did.
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#1 She made him nervous about it so of course he broke it. She probably picked him out as the nervous type when he walked in.
#2 she said "the thing you dread will happen" blah blah blah but as hermione proves Lavender wasn't dreading the death of her rabbit at all, as it was only a baby.
#3 I quite imagine somebody always leaves. McGonagall makes it sound like they're all routine predictions she makes in the first lesson.
#4 that was one of her very rare REAL predictions. It was entirely different from the others
#5 Same as #4
to what halfbloodprincess said, yeah I noticed that too. but she didn't seem very certain of it..."no no that can't be right" but it kept coming back that way. In other words...I don't think she could have made that prediction entirely under her own steam and skill. Something was truly interfering with the cards to tell her danger was coming, but she was too tipsy to do anything about it.
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LostDog-Padfoot
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| Posted: July 3, 2007 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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^ that clears up a bit
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halfbloodprincess
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| Posted: July 3, 2007 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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but you cant deny that they came true... so she isnt a fraud.
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RiddleisOurKing
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| Posted: July 3, 2007 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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She's just like those phoney ghost talkers like I said before. She says such obvious things that you can always find some truth in it, then once she gets on your good side, you just get sucked in more and more.
Dumbledore even thinks she is fake, he just keeps her around because she made the prophecy about Harry and feels she would be in danger if she were to leave Hogwarts.
She says in PoA that when 13 dine together the first to leave is the first to die.... Ron and Harry stood up at the same time and Dumbledore died before them, so she was wrong.
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halfbloodprincess
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well that was some stupid sort of superstition... its not like she predicted it anyway.
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RiddleisOurKing
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| Posted: July 3, 2007 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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she freaked out when harry and ron stood up
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halfbloodprincess
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because she believed in her own superstition. its not an original prediction that she made.
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RiddleisOurKing
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bah, she's a fake, no matter what anyone says. except Jo. if she says she's for real, I'd believe it, but never before.  lol
she just has a the occasional breakthrough. =) Dumby says in PoA that her prediction count is now up to 2, after she says the Dark Lord's servant will return tonight.
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Blibbering Humdinger
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| Posted: July 3, 2007 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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One more prediction thing. She warned Dumbledore about the lightning tower thing in book 6.
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halfbloodprincess
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| Posted: July 4, 2007 8:07 am Post subject: |
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that, plus neville's cup, lavender's rabbit, hermione's departure...
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Arabella
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I've already explained why those three weren't true predictions. I mean something was bound to happen to Lavender in any general time period that she could attribute to the "prediction", and if nothing happened...she'd probably just forget it was ever made. She's made a couple real predictions, but the rest of it is just good guesswork and smoke and mirrors (ie "the grimm is drawing ever closer!")
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ginny_harryxoxo
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| Posted: July 4, 2007 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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she obviously makes true predictions somtimes but the other times she expects everyone to believe her when she says weird things that wont happen. She also guesses a lot probably too.
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