absolutely nothing aye? so him covering other things that are just as important if not more so is not a good valid reason?
What other things? He hasn't covered anything up. He hasn't hidden anything. He isn't hiding anything, he just isn't offering the information. And instead of people (interviewers, press, etc) asking him about himself, they are just going out and looking for themselves. They act all proud of themselves when they "uncover" something. But it isn't as if he was hiding any of it to begin with. _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate. ~ Bob Dylan "To commemorate a past event, you kill and eat an animal. It's a ritual sacrifice. With pie." ~ Anya <3
well people are saying that because McCain left his first wife, he is unfit for leading a country.
That doesn't make any sense either. McCain isn't running for most loyal husband.
I don't care if a candidate is sexually attracted to dogs, mutilates himself and cheats on his wife with his son - if he can get the job done, then that's all that matters. _________________
well people are saying that because McCain left his first wife, he is unfit for leading a country.
That doesn't make any sense either. McCain isn't running for most loyal husband.
I don't care if a candidate is sexually attracted to dogs, mutilates himself and cheats on his wife with his son - if he can get the job done, then that's all that matters.
The choices a person makes (even the ones they make about their life) reflect how well they can do a job. It reflects who they are and ultimately the kind of things they're going to believe in, which matters in a job such as the presidency. _________________
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Tell that to Thomas Jefferson, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower, and John F. Kennedy. All exceptional presidents with pretty horrible personal lives. Then you've got Jimmy Carter - I can tell you he probably had the most spotless personal life of any presdient to get elected...
I'm not saying there's a negative corellation... just that there's no corellation. _________________
They would do a much better job than any of the candidates.
It should be Granger/Potter...I think Hermione would be better suited as prez lol. _________________ Yas and Simmy - Putting Luna on catwalks since 2008!
The choices a person makes (even the ones they make about their life) reflect how well they can do a job. It reflects who they are and ultimately the kind of things they're going to believe in, which matters in a job such as the presidency.
Tell that to Thomas Jefferson, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower, and John F. Kennedy. All exceptional presidents with pretty horrible personal lives. Then you've got Jimmy Carter - I can tell you he probably had the most spotless personal life of any presdient to get elected...
I'm not saying there's a negative corellation... just that there's no corellation.
That's pretty debatable. Kennedy has always been known as 'a great president', and while there's some good things he did, he wasn't around that long and not all he did was good. Same goes for Roosevelt and the rest of them. And I'm not really talking about personal lives here, and it kind of depends on the situation. A decision to not help a family member at all (even when he says he doesn't desperately need it) is pretty odd when you're running for President on a platform that is all about helping the people who don't have the 'chances' that everyone else has. I mean, cmon, besides just giving his brother money, he could offer him an education. But he's done nothing. It's hypocrisy to me. _________________
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So my question is this, to the person who originally posted this topic:
You are apparently aware of starving and dying people worldwide.
Why are you posting on a forum? You should be out there offering every penny you have to someone else. That apparently is what makes someone a good person, right?
So my question is this, to the person who originally posted this topic:
You are apparently aware of starving and dying people worldwide.
Why are you posting on a forum? You should be out there offering every penny you have to someone else. That apparently is what makes someone a good person, right?
So go do that. Right now.
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So my question is this, to the person who originally posted this topic:
You are apparently aware of starving and dying people worldwide.
Why are you posting on a forum? You should be out there offering every penny you have to someone else. That apparently is what makes someone a good person, right?
So go do that. Right now.
owned.
Lol sometimes, I think some people on here (like Vasaver and flamingmonkey) should be on Jerry Springer or some debate show. I would watch! I think it would be interesting. _________________ Yas and Simmy - Putting Luna on catwalks since 2008!
So my question is this, to the person who originally posted this topic:
You are apparently aware of starving and dying people worldwide.
Why are you posting on a forum? You should be out there offering every penny you have to someone else. That apparently is what makes someone a good person, right?
So go do that. Right now.
hmmm lets see im in the military, fighting for the people of this country rich, poor jackasses, and yes we even do things for other countries too. thank you i guess im a good person.
EDIT: oh yea and every christmas i give ibg hunk of my check to charity. oh and its not my relative thats in poverty living a small ass shack. thats a character issue, i know i could not go on knowing that my own relative is living in such a place and not do anything about it. obama has no excuse seeing how he has millions and i only make a military mans pay check. which btw isnt that much, i serve my country for minimum wage pretty damn much. so dont give me crap about not helping the poor innocent people of this world. im doing my time unlike most of the people on this site and in this country. what can you say you have done to help people out in the last month i can name quite a few myself.
oh yea and i have four stripes on my uniform, which MOST people may age dont even have 2 stripes. i have more responsibility than the average person my age. most 29 yr olds dont even recieve the honors i have and you know what? im doing all this for people like you for people out there in this country who are also in poverty and you know what, being a united states airman means that we do fing lot of support for the whole damn world. oh my god you guys tick me off when you say things to me like that cuz you have no idea what i do what i go through for a living. _________________
Okay, so you do your part and Obama does his part. You can't help everyone, but you try. Same goes for most of us. If Obama's brother didnt' ask for help then there isn't much that can be done, just like with anyone in need. You can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped, period. _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate. ~ Bob Dylan "To commemorate a past event, you kill and eat an animal. It's a ritual sacrifice. With pie." ~ Anya <3
Okay, so you do your part and Obama does his part. You can't help everyone, but you try. Same goes for most of us. If Obama's brother didnt' ask for help then there isn't much that can be done, just like with anyone in need. You can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped, period.
Yeah but did he even try? What if Obama just gave him the means to live a better life and he did all the work? Surely his brother wouldn't give up the opportunity to make a difference. The only thing Obama said about meeting his brother was that it was 'painful'. Sure sounds like he really did a lot persuading there. _________________
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Okay, so you do your part and Obama does his part. You can't help everyone, but you try. Same goes for most of us. If Obama's brother didnt' ask for help then there isn't much that can be done, just like with anyone in need. You can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped, period.
Yeah but did he even try? What if Obama just gave him the means to live a better life and he did all the work? Surely his brother wouldn't give up the opportunity to make a difference. The only thing Obama said about meeting his brother was that it was 'painful'. Sure sounds like he really did a lot persuading there.
You are just assusming things. We dont' know any of the particulars. There is so much we don't know we can only assume, which isn't fair to either of those brothers. _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate. ~ Bob Dylan "To commemorate a past event, you kill and eat an animal. It's a ritual sacrifice. With pie." ~ Anya <3
Okay, so you do your part and Obama does his part. You can't help everyone, but you try. Same goes for most of us. If Obama's brother didnt' ask for help then there isn't much that can be done, just like with anyone in need. You can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped, period.
Yeah but did he even try? What if Obama just gave him the means to live a better life and he did all the work? Surely his brother wouldn't give up the opportunity to make a difference. The only thing Obama said about meeting his brother was that it was 'painful'. Sure sounds like he really did a lot persuading there.
You are just assusming things. We dont' know any of the particulars. There is so much we don't know we can only assume, which isn't fair to either of those brothers.
I'm not assuming things - I just question a man running for President on a platform of being a 'champion for the poor and less privileged' who has a half brother living in a Nairobi slum, visited him in 2006, and did nothing. If not for his brother, why not the local community that his brother was a part of even? _________________
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I'm not assuming things - I just question a man running for President on a platform of being a 'champion for the poor and less privileged' who has a half brother living in a Nairobi slum, visited him in 2006, and did nothing. If not for his brother, why not the local community that his brother was a part of even?
Again, we have no idea of any of the details. And yeah, it's easy to say, let's just help that slum... but there are millions of slums in the world. Do we know where all of McCain's second cousin's live? It's not safe to assume. _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate. ~ Bob Dylan "To commemorate a past event, you kill and eat an animal. It's a ritual sacrifice. With pie." ~ Anya <3
I'm not assuming things - I just question a man running for President on a platform of being a 'champion for the poor and less privileged' who has a half brother living in a Nairobi slum, visited him in 2006, and did nothing. If not for his brother, why not the local community that his brother was a part of even?
Again, we have no idea of any of the details. And yeah, it's easy to say, let's just help that slum... but there are millions of slums in the world. Do we know where all of McCain's second cousin's live? It's not safe to assume.
Uh, well, this is Obama's half brother, whom he's visited. And the details are pretty clear - that brother lives in a slum and Obama is a millionaire. If Obama had even done anything to help the community in the area - I think we would have seen some results after two years. So, he's done nothing. And yet, this guy is running for president claiming to solve all of our problems when he can't/won't/hasn't even helped his own family. _________________
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I'm not assuming things - I just question a man running for President on a platform of being a 'champion for the poor and less privileged' who has a half brother living in a Nairobi slum, visited him in 2006, and did nothing. If not for his brother, why not the local community that his brother was a part of even?
Again, we have no idea of any of the details. And yeah, it's easy to say, let's just help that slum... but there are millions of slums in the world. Do we know where all of McCain's second cousin's live? It's not safe to assume.
Uh, well, this is Obama's half brother, whom he's visited. And the details are pretty clear - that brother lives in a slum and Obama is a millionaire. If Obama had even done anything to help the community in the area - I think we would have seen some results after two years. So, he's done nothing. And yet, this guy is running for president claiming to solve all of our problems when he can't/won't/hasn't even helped his own family.
He only met him twice, according to the article. He can't save everyone in the world, not even Superman could. _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate. ~ Bob Dylan "To commemorate a past event, you kill and eat an animal. It's a ritual sacrifice. With pie." ~ Anya <3
but its his brother and not the whole world, he is close blood aka considered immediate family, not just someone on the street. two visits and a look at how he is living should have persuaded him to do something. yet he did not. _________________
The choices a person makes (even the ones they make about their life) reflect how well they can do a job. It reflects who they are and ultimately the kind of things they're going to believe in, which matters in a job such as the presidency.
Tell that to Thomas Jefferson, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower, and John F. Kennedy. All exceptional presidents with pretty horrible personal lives. Then you've got Jimmy Carter - I can tell you he probably had the most spotless personal life of any presdient to get elected...
I'm not saying there's a negative corellation... just that there's no corellation.
That's pretty debatable. Kennedy has always been known as 'a great president', and while there's some good things he did, he wasn't around that long and not all he did was good. Same goes for Roosevelt and the rest of them. And I'm not really talking about personal lives here, and it kind of depends on the situation. A decision to not help a family member at all (even when he says he doesn't desperately need it) is pretty odd when you're running for President on a platform that is all about helping the people who don't have the 'chances' that everyone else has. I mean, cmon, besides just giving his brother money, he could offer him an education. But he's done nothing. It's hypocrisy to me.
You can debate Kennedy's accomplishments, but not the point as a whole. Thomas Jefferson is the perfect example. He was a slave-owner and he raped one of his slaves repeatedly... yet he still wanted to ultimately get rid of slavery in America.
People are hypocrites. Usually they lead their public lives a lot more idealogically than they lead their personal ones. _________________
Okay, again, the Jefferson stuff. Dude, it's not even proven, and it's highly controversial. Never hearing about the issue, I figured if I looked it up on Wikipedia, I'd find all sorts of doubts about it. And here we are:
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Whether Jefferson fathered children with Sally Hemings is the subject of considerable controversy.
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The allegation that Jefferson fathered children with Hemings first gained widespread public attention in 1802, when controversial journalist James T. Callender, wrote in a Richmond newspaper, "...[Jefferson] keeps and for many years has kept, as his concubine, one of his slaves. Her name is Sally."
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In 2000, the Thomas Jefferson Foundation, which runs Monticello, appointed a multi-disciplinary, nine-member in-house research committee of Ph.D.s and an M.D. to study the matter of the paternity of Hemings's children. The committee concluded "it is very unlikely that any Jefferson other than Thomas Jefferson was the father of [Hemings's six] children."
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In 2001, the Thomas Jefferson Heritage Society[86] commissioned a study by an independent 13-member Scholars Commission. The commission concluded that the Jefferson paternity thesis was not persuasive. On April 12, 2001, they issued a report; at 565 pages, it was far longer than the Foundation report, though many of those pages were devoted to a review of the evidence that the Thomas Jefferson Foundation study examined. The conclusion of most of the Scholars Commission was that "the Jefferson-Hemings allegation is by no means proven"; those members' individual conclusions ranged from "serious skepticism about the charge" to "a conviction that it is almost certainly false." The majority suggested the most likely alternative is that Randolph Jefferson, Thomas's younger brother, was the father of Eston.
Please stop talking about crap you don't know is true for propaganda purposes. _________________
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