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Posts: 446 · Posted: July 12, 2008 6:41 pm Post subject: Mad Eye Moody Still Alive

In the book it says that only his eye was recovered. This is known to be in Umbridges Possesion. Then it also says that when walking through Diagon Alley Harry spots a familiar stranger in tattered clothes with a patch over one eye. So what do you think Is he alive or dead? ( PG 424-425)
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Posts: 446 · Posted: July 12, 2008 7:13 pm Post subject:

The page is around 424. Also they might not have been contacted if Moody was doing some undercover work as all Voldemorts followers believe him to be dead. If he is alive, that could also pave the way for another book.

Plus even the ministry wouldnt find out. They are technically under Voldemorts control, as voldemort has the Impirius curse on the minister
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Posts: 446 · Posted: July 12, 2008 7:21 pm Post subject:

But if he was alive, then wouldn't he do all he could so the ministry never found out. Then there wouldn't be wanted posters
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Posts: 446 · Posted: July 12, 2008 7:51 pm Post subject:

Mabye we have different versions of the book as on mine the page is deffinetly 424-425. Also I think that it would be possible to produce your own corpse or as he may have done just leave a little part of himself as apparent proof.
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I'd definitely count him alive if i didn't find his whole body there. Just some isn't enough, Avada Kedavra followed by a huge fall to the ground = a whole body. I don't know, I guess I just think that if he had been left alive, he would have joined the fight over at Hogwarts near the ending. I totally would have preferred it (what a twist!), but eh.
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Posts: 446 · Posted: July 12, 2008 7:57 pm Post subject:

Mabye it wa like silent spells, so it could have been snape using a silent spell. So even though he says Avada Kedavra he could be casting expeliarmus. Plus there could have been something/someone to catch moody or to break his fall.
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A tree could "soften" his fall, but I think there's still a good chance he could die. Either way, why would he fall from an Expelliarmus?? Even if Snape could somehow change the appearance of the spell to resemble Avada Kedavra.
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Posts: 446 · Posted: July 12, 2008 8:03 pm Post subject:

Expelliarmus or Stupefy which ever one fits. Also Buckbeak could have caught him.
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Why would Buckbeak be there? And where would he have caught him? Death eaters were all after them, I'm fairly sure that Moody crashing through the trees marks the point of no return, as it would would be too late for something like a hippogriff.
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Posts: 446 · Posted: July 12, 2008 8:12 pm Post subject:

Possibly, but no one actually paid attention to him after he was hit, so anything could have happened and no one would notice
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Well, each Harry Potter had a group of Death Eaters after him. Mundungus disapparates and Moody is hit. At this point, the death eaters following this group are left with 2 choices: Either check for the body immediately or follow the group next to them (I believe someone from the order said they saw Moody getting hit). Lets say they didn't check for the body immediately and went with the other group, I'm sure they had enough time to see Moody fall far enough to hit the tree line. At least, I think that if I was chasing someone on a broom and I was trying to kill them, I'd pay attention to the falling body that was struck. (I just remembered that some of Harry's gang said they went back for the body to try and find/retrieve and came back empty. The fact that they tried at all probably means that the group after moody didn't zoom after him to check his status).
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Posts: 446 · Posted: July 12, 2008 8:20 pm Post subject:

Perhaps whatever happened that was important occured below the treeline?
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Well that's what I'd like to know. What exactly do you think happened? I'll go along with it, Snape could have disguised stupefy or something similar into a killing curse. Judging by things in the past, I'd say they were flying 100 or more feet in the air, Moody falls, likely that he could die from the Impact. Lets say he doesn't die. I think I've outruled the hippogriff...lets say he hits the ground and somehow survives. Good chance he's probably unconscious, and even then, he might have a broken leg, probably tons of broken ribs, a hand? Cracked skull, or maybe even a broken spine which probably equals paralysis. Forget that, lets say he somehow makes it through with a broken finger or something...and he's wide awake. How could he trick death eaters, skilled wizards, that he has died? Some before un-mentioned spell? That seems like a Deus Ex machina to me. >>
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Posts: 446 · Posted: July 12, 2008 8:37 pm Post subject:

an Invisibility Cloak. Anyway will talk more in about 5hrs as I am gonna go to sleep now.
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It could be plausible, they left his death vague enough for him to be alive.

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Here's the quote from the book (ch. 26):

Posts: 24648 · Posted: July 12, 2008 9:49 pm Post subject:

There already is a thread about this... I'll leave this thread open for now because the other thread is kinda old...

If you would like to read other people's previous thoughts on this matter, please check out this thread...
http://potterforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=10017
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The guy with a bandage over his eyes you were referring to was the one who confronted the fake Bellatrix? Nah, no way that proves anything. First of all, wouldn't they have recognized him if he was Moody? And what the hell was he talking about? Some about his kids or w/e? None of this ties into Moody imo.
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Posts: 24648 · Posted: July 12, 2008 10:44 pm Post subject:

I think it's really just a coincidence.
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