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zengrenouille
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I did state the reasons that I don't like him.. In the thread I made.. Those were clear cut reasons. It's mostly his fault that Michigan/Hillary lost 4 of her delegates. He took his name off the ballot willingly then complained because he did not get any votes.. I mean come on. It's was his idea that the delegates only get half their vote counted. know from past experience I know I will get my head cut off for saying that but it's the truth and I'm only calling things the way I seen on my television. Michigan was delt a wrong hand and it's party obama's fault and partly the people who messed up.
Ok here's the deal. there were 4 states that wanted to go first in the primary. Michigan, Florida, North Carolina and other state I dont remember. We(Michigan and Florida) asked for a pass to do it. They gave NC their pass and the other state but kept pushing ours back that's why this all happened because they did not want us to get the pass so we could be in the first primary's. So in all honesty It was not really our representatives fault it was whoever is in charge of giving those passes out.
On to the working class and white woman comment.. We both must of just misunderstood each other.. Sorry about that.. but this 'issue' just gets me so mad. And I hate that no one else (People not from Michigan and Florida) don't believe or dont want to believe what happened. It's true..It's wrong.. It's not that I was getting offended just annoyed that people think that it's right want they did to Michigan and Florida.
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lol, see, that's what I'm talking about. I don't really know a whole lot about the Michigan delegate situation, and the whole concept of delegates goes completely over my head. I don't know whose at fault for Michigan voter getting screwed out of getting their voices heard, but I can completely understand being pissed about it. I also want to warn not to just trust what you see on TV. Read up on it. Look at both perspectives. Most news stations are very one-sided, and they will blame the other side for everything. If Barack was under-handedly doing something, then I can understand not wanting to vote for him.
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AngelPotter20
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| Posted: June 4, 2008 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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I don't believe everything I hear on Tv. lol I have been reading up a bit on it but not to much.
I dont know.. I already decided that if Hillary and Obama both decided to go in on this presidency together then I'm going to vote for him.. Right now i'm getting very fed up with all of this and I just want it to be over.
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| Posted: June 5, 2008 6:00 am Post subject: Re: Obama Wins Democratic Race |
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Barrack Obama just secured well over the amount of delegates required to win the Democratic nomination. He is now the first black candidate to run for the presidency in a major party. Earlier today, Clinton began aiming for the Vice Presidency, although in her address to supporters tonight, she claimed she has not yet conceded.
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Personally, I'm glad it's finally over. The Democratic party needs time to heal some of the major wounds this race has caused. |
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| Posted: June 5, 2008 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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So on Hillary's website she said she's going to do her whole speech Saturday and congratulate Obama then.
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| Posted: June 5, 2008 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: Obama Wins Democratic Race |
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| flamingmonkey923 wrote: |
Barrack Obama just secured well over the amount of delegates required to win the Democratic nomination. He is now the first black candidate to run for the presidency in a major party. Earlier today, Clinton began aiming for the Vice Presidency, although in her address to supporters tonight, she claimed she has not yet conceded.
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Personally, I'm glad it's finally over. The Democratic party needs time to heal some of the major wounds this race has caused. |
proof fm,
now only if she could get struck by lightning |
The fact that George W. Bush frauded his way into office in 2000 is proof that there isn't.
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| Posted: June 5, 2008 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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I love how he says,
Percentage of white old men, white old women, or Condelezza Rice.
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| Posted: June 5, 2008 7:14 pm Post subject: Re: Obama Wins Democratic Race |
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| flamingmonkey923 wrote: |
Barrack Obama just secured well over the amount of delegates required to win the Democratic nomination. He is now the first black candidate to run for the presidency in a major party. Earlier today, Clinton began aiming for the Vice Presidency, although in her address to supporters tonight, she claimed she has not yet conceded.
Thoughts/opinions?
Personally, I'm glad it's finally over. The Democratic party needs time to heal some of the major wounds this race has caused. |
proof fm,
now only if she could get struck by lightning |
The fact that George W. Bush frauded his way into office in 2000 is proof that there isn't.
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Hilliary was too much like Bill Clinton. And bill got involved to much.
Obama was my pick from the start.
I think obama should focus on picking a VP with war experience. So Mcain can't attack Obama about his lack of experience.
The democrat voters aren't going to vote for the republicans even if they were pro hilliary. |
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| Posted: June 6, 2008 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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Hilliary was too much like Bill Clinton. And bill got involved to much.
Obama was my pick from the start.
I think obama should focus on picking a VP with war experience. So Mcain can't attack Obama about his lack of experience.
The democrat voters aren't going to vote for the republicans even if they were pro hilliary. |
"Waving the bloody shirt" as they called it in the old days.
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AngelPotter20
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Hilliary was too much like Bill Clinton. And bill got involved to much.
Obama was my pick from the start.
I think obama should focus on picking a VP with war experience. So Mcain can't attack Obama about his lack of experience.
The democrat voters aren't going to vote for the republicans even if they were pro hilliary. |
I know a whole lot of Hillary supporters that are going to vote McCain. A whole lot on Hillary's website that say they wont vote for Obama. So I dont know.
If Hillary is like Bill. (Which I dont think she is.) that's great. Our Economy was awesome when bill was in office.
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| If Hillary is like Bill. (Which I dont think she is.) that's great. Our Economy was awesome when bill was in office. |
Bill Clinton was a great president, people just tend to think he wasn't because the whole monica lewinsky thing.
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"Waving the bloody shirt" as they called it in the old days. |
Or did in the old days, rather. Back during the Civil War / Reconstruction Era, the Radical Republicans (who were actually the liberals in that day and age) would wave a bloody shirt as a protest to the violence and intolerance of their political opponents.
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| Posted: June 7, 2008 10:32 am Post subject: |
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Hilliary was too much like Bill Clinton. And bill got involved to much.
Obama was my pick from the start.
I think obama should focus on picking a VP with war experience. So Mcain can't attack Obama about his lack of experience.
The democrat voters aren't going to vote for the republicans even if they were pro hilliary. |
What's wrong with Bill Cliton?
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| Posted: June 7, 2008 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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as much as I would hate it, Clinton should be his VP.
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| A whole lot on Hillary's website that say they wont vote for Obama |
If you look, a lot of it is teh same people that just keep replying to that thread.
and on Obama's page you see people who used to support Clinton, that now support Obama.
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second time i was like o crap this is gonna be a hit, i'm going to hear it waaay too much and get so sick of it.
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| Posted: June 7, 2008 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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did anyone watched the speech that Clinton gave today, i missed it
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I missed it, but I listened to a debate about it during my lunch break. I also saw bits of it during that.
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glad that shes over with it, i don't want any of Hilary/Obama crap,
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| Posted: June 8, 2008 7:18 am Post subject: |
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Well then why are you posting in the Obama wins thread?
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I am really itching for obama to win. Not only because of the historical significance, but also for all the good he would do during his presidency.
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I think a lot of the projection polls fail to take into account just how racist America still really is. Racist in a more subtle, less obvious way. I think there are a lot of people who would vote for him in the Primary, but not in the GE. I'm really not racist, so don't yell at me please. Jus' saying.
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