In the US it would never work, people here don't really want to be equal, they are way too selfish. Not everyone, of course, just enough people to ruin it. That's the same reason why Communism would never work in general. Look atthe book Animal Farm... there will always be pigs who want power. There is always going to be corruption and greed and inequalities... sad, but true.
I was just about to bring this book up, it's so good. If you had a cooperative selfless society it could, but that's highly unlikely.[/quote]
Unfortunately our society isn't like that. [/quote]
I know, it's too bad. _________________
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George Washington
John Adams
Thomas Jefferson
James Madison
James Monroe
John Quincy Adams
Andrew Jackson
Martin Van Buren
William H. Harrison
John Tyler
James K. Polk
Zachary Taylor
Millard Fillmore
Franklin Pierce
James Buchanan
Abraham Lincoln
Andrew Johnson
Ulysses S. Grant
Rutherford B. Hayes
James Garfield
Chester A. Arthur
Grover Cleveland
Benjamin Harrison
Grover Cleveland
William McKinley
Theodore Roosevelt
William H. Taft
Woodrow Wilson
Warren G. Harding
Calvin Coolidge
Herbert Hoover
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Harry S. Truman
Dwight D. Eisenhower
John F. Kennedy
Lyndon B. Johnson
Richard Nixon
Gerald Ford
Jimmy Carter
Ronald Reagan
George H. W. Bush
Bill Clinton
George W. Bush _________________
John Adams
John Quincy Adams
Andrew Jackson
Martin Van Buren
William H. Harrison
John Tyler
James K. Polk
Millard Fillmore
Franklin Pierce
James Buchanan
Andrew Johnson
Ulysses S. Grant
Rutherford B. Hayes
Warren G. Harding
Herbert Hoover
Richard Nixon
Gerald Ford
Jimmy Carter
Ronald Reagan
George H. W. Bush
George W. Bush
I have major issues with every one of the above. Care to explain the reason they're on the list? _________________
John Adams
John Quincy Adams
Andrew Jackson
Martin Van Buren
William H. Harrison
John Tyler
James K. Polk
Millard Fillmore
Franklin Pierce
James Buchanan
Andrew Johnson
Ulysses S. Grant
Rutherford B. Hayes
Warren G. Harding
Herbert Hoover
Richard Nixon
Gerald Ford
Jimmy Carter
Ronald Reagan
George H. W. Bush
George W. Bush
I have major issues with every one of the above. Care to explain the reason they're on the list?
YaY George Jr. FTW
*throws confetti*
ror shouldnt have to explain FM, it says favorite leader.. not most effective, or honest, or whichever.
i love all of our presidents because each one has his own special thing to give. _________________
ror shouldnt have to explain FM, it says favorite leader.. not most effective, or honest, or whichever.
i love all of our presidents because each one has his own special thing to give.
I guess... if your special thing involves
- obduracy
- genocide
- imperialism
- racism
- more racism
- incompetence
- incompetence that lead to a majore economic depression
- voter fraud
- tolerating voter fraud (and not getting elected into any office)
- killing the economy
- killing poor people AND the economy
- intolerance, imperialism, and incompetence
- and finally, Voter Fraud, incompetence, killing the economy, killing science, and blatant bigotry.
I left a few out, but that's the general gist of them. I was just wondering why all of them are up there when most of them were bad leaders. _________________
ror shouldnt have to explain FM, it says favorite leader.. not most effective, or honest, or whichever.
Which would certainly explain why Nixon is on that list. _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate. ~ Bob Dylan "To commemorate a past event, you kill and eat an animal. It's a ritual sacrifice. With pie." ~ Anya <3
In the US it would never work, people here don't really want to be equal, they are way too selfish. Not everyone, of course, just enough people to ruin it. That's the same reason why Communism would never work in general. Look atthe book Animal Farm... there will always be pigs who want power. There is always going to be corruption and greed and inequalities... sad, but true.
I was just about to bring this book up, it's so good. If you had a cooperative selfless society it could, but that's highly unlikely.
Unfortunately our society isn't like that.
Animal Farm is based off of the Soviet Union, which I believe I listed during my "communism has never truly been tried" mini speech. Americans have been trained to be effective capitalists. What has been done can be undone.
In the US it would never work, people here don't really want to be equal, they are way too selfish. Not everyone, of course, just enough people to ruin it. That's the same reason why Communism would never work in general. Look atthe book Animal Farm... there will always be pigs who want power. There is always going to be corruption and greed and inequalities... sad, but true.
I was just about to bring this book up, it's so good. If you had a cooperative selfless society it could, but that's highly unlikely.
Unfortunately our society isn't like that.
Animal Farm is based off of the Soviet Union, which I believe I listed during my "communism has never truly been tried" mini speech. Americans have been trained to be effective capitalists. What has been done can be undone.
Note: I'm not a communist. :]
Regardless of whether or not the book was based on the Soviet Union, there will still always be someone who gets greedy and wants power.
If communism would truely work I would be all for it, but the sad thing is it won't with the world's currrent societies. _________________
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In the US it would never work, people here don't really want to be equal, they are way too selfish. Not everyone, of course, just enough people to ruin it. That's the same reason why Communism would never work in general. Look atthe book Animal Farm... there will always be pigs who want power. There is always going to be corruption and greed and inequalities... sad, but true.
I was just about to bring this book up, it's so good. If you had a cooperative selfless society it could, but that's highly unlikely.
Unfortunately our society isn't like that.
Animal Farm is based off of the Soviet Union, which I believe I listed during my "communism has never truly been tried" mini speech. Americans have been trained to be effective capitalists. What has been done can be undone.
Note: I'm not a communist. :]
As dontsayiquit said, although the books was based off of the Soviet Union, the idea that there will always be greedy, power hungry pigs is universal. _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate. ~ Bob Dylan "To commemorate a past event, you kill and eat an animal. It's a ritual sacrifice. With pie." ~ Anya <3
As I just said (except in a few more words), it hasn't always been like that, people were essentially trained to always want more, and this could be undone.
As I just said (except in a few more words), it hasn't always been like that, people were essentially trained to always want more, and this could be undone.
Anarchy ftw, btw.
The end result would be a society without ambition. What kind of Slytherin are you? tsk tsk
Spoiler:
jk jk
_________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate. ~ Bob Dylan "To commemorate a past event, you kill and eat an animal. It's a ritual sacrifice. With pie." ~ Anya <3
Some could argue that Fidel Castro was a good leader. Free Education and Health Care for a 3rd world country is almost un heard of. Even tho Cuba is a failed system of Communism.
And one question.
Will Free Health Care work in a Capitilst society such as the US? _________________
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I hate it when they tell us how far we came to be as if our peoples history started with slavery
Will Free Health Care work in a Capitilst society such as the US?
I dunno... it's worth a try, I guess. t might fail, though... because there are always going to be people who want better and more and the government is always going to want to control so much of what we do.... _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate. ~ Bob Dylan "To commemorate a past event, you kill and eat an animal. It's a ritual sacrifice. With pie." ~ Anya <3
Some could argue that Fidel Castro was a good leader. Free Education and Health Care for a 3rd world country is almost un heard of. Even tho Cuba is a failed system of Communism.
And one question.
Will Free Health Care work in a Capitilst society such as the US?
I still think communism in Cuba could have worked if it wasn't for all of the United States embargo against Cuba. Because we don't purchase things from them, a lot of other countries won't. ]: Poor Cuban economy.
Health care wouldn't really be free, since it came from taxes. It'd work, though. It would just be hard on states with big illegal immigration problems.
GinnyX wrote:
the government is always going to want to control so much of what we do....
the government is always going to want to control so much of what we do....
Anarchy ftw!
lol, sounds good to me! _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate. ~ Bob Dylan "To commemorate a past event, you kill and eat an animal. It's a ritual sacrifice. With pie." ~ Anya <3
Will Free Health Care work in a Capitilst society such as the US?
Why wouldn't it? Just look at Europe. Look at our PUBLIC education system.
Our public education system isn't working. It's failing. Not to mention that it's nowhere near as effetcive as some other countries, in general. _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate. ~ Bob Dylan "To commemorate a past event, you kill and eat an animal. It's a ritual sacrifice. With pie." ~ Anya <3
Will Free Health Care work in a Capitilst society such as the US?
Why wouldn't it? Just look at Europe. Look at our PUBLIC education system.
Canada as well, the US needs to go to public health care.
its not that it wouldnt work, but there is always down sides to certain medical care... like free medical care will mean long waits to get in to see a doctor. so if you have the flu or something... gonna have to wait it out. _________________
In the US it would never work, people here don't really want to be equal, they are way too selfish. Not everyone, of course, just enough people to ruin it. That's the same reason why Communism would never work in general. Look atthe book Animal Farm... there will always be pigs who want power. There is always going to be corruption and greed and inequalities... sad, but true.
I was just about to bring this book up, it's so good. If you had a cooperative selfless society it could, but that's highly unlikely.
Unfortunately our society isn't like that. [/quote]
I know, it's too bad.[/quote]
Society will never achive a state of selflessness. In the Preamble our Founding Fathers right "In order to form a more perfect union"
There is never a perfect union. There are no perfect humans. They are no perfect socieities.
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