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jreyes130
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PostPosted: April 3, 2008 6:54 pm    Post subject: hogwarts founders Reply with quote

ok so i was thinking tom riddle was the last of the slytherin blood lines do you think that the other founding members half any bloodlines left in the wizarding world
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PostPosted: April 3, 2008 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well.. I think Harry was something of Godrics line or he would not of been able to find the sword right? (Correct me if i'm wrong).
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PostPosted: April 3, 2008 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well.. I think Harry was something of Godrics line or he would not of been able to find the sword right? (Correct me if i'm wrong).


No, you don't have to be a descendant of Gryffindor to obtain the sword.
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PostPosted: April 3, 2008 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

speaking of which, was harry a descendant of the peverell brothers? u know, cause the potter family had the cloak
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PostPosted: April 3, 2008 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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speaking of which, was harry a descendant of the peverell brothers? u know, cause the potter family had the cloak


Yes, he was.
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PostPosted: April 3, 2008 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and salazar slytherin was also a descendant right? (the ring)
so was harry related to slytherin after all?
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PostPosted: April 3, 2008 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bery26 wrote:
and salazar slytherin was also a descendant right? (the ring)
so was harry related to slytherin after all?


Salazar Slytherin wasn't a descendant. He was the founder... how can you be a founder of yourself?
Harry was related to Slytherin, but not really. He certainly wasn't a direct discendant. It was so far apart... I mean, it's like saying you and I are possibly related, which we could possibly be if we go really far back.
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PostPosted: April 3, 2008 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GinnyX wrote:
bery26 wrote:
and salazar slytherin was also a descendant right? (the ring)
so was harry related to slytherin after all?


Salazar Slytherin wasn't a descendant. He was the founder... how can you be a founder of yourself?
Harry was related to Slytherin, but not really. He certainly wasn't a direct discendant. It was so far apart... I mean, it's like saying you and I are possibly related, which we could possibly be if we go really far back.


Actually, I saw a thing on TV where they practiacally proved that we are all related. These researchers started with the Mongolians -- since apparently a vast majority of them are related -- and pretty much linked the world through random samples of DNA. It was really interesting.
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PostPosted: April 3, 2008 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know but I'm talking about how riddle was supposed to be Slytherin's last descendant. Do you think that any other wizards have direct blood from the founders. I don't think that Ravenclaw would because her daughter died and I got the impression that she was her only daughter.
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PostPosted: April 3, 2008 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah.. but the founders could have brother's and sister's that we dont know about..
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PostPosted: April 3, 2008 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I know but I'm talking about how riddle was supposed to be Slytherin's last descendant. Do you think that any other wizards have direct blood from the founders. I don't think that Ravenclaw would because her daughter died and I got the impression that she was her only daughter.


I got that impression, too.


Voldemort was the last direct descendant of Slytherin.
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PostPosted: April 3, 2008 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i read somewhere i cant remember where but i think it was a fan site that said that they believed that dumbledore was a descendant of godric gryfindor
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PostPosted: April 3, 2008 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i read somewhere i cant remember where but i think it was a fan site that said that they believed that dumbledore was a descendant of godric gryfindor


That's just a theory. That was a popular theory that floated around before DH was released, but has never been confirmed. He is not a direct descendent of him, though.
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PostPosted: April 3, 2008 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't JKR confirm that Harry is not a descendent of Gryffindor? Or was it just that he isn't necessarily?

And bery: nowhere does it say that the ring belonged to Slytherin. It's possible, but unlikely since the founders were before the Peverells and the stone on it belonged to Cadmus Peverell. It's more likely that Cadmus or one of his descendents simply made the ring especially for the stone so it would be easier to carry.
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PostPosted: April 3, 2008 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GinnyX wrote:
bery26 wrote:
and salazar slytherin was also a descendant right? (the ring)
so was harry related to slytherin after all?


Salazar Slytherin wasn't a descendant. He was the founder... how can you be a founder of yourself?
Harry was related to Slytherin, but not really. He certainly wasn't a direct discendant. It was so far apart... I mean, it's like saying you and I are possibly related, which we could possibly be if we go really far back.


what? you lost me, i dont get what you're saying Confused

i mean that if slytherin had the ring then maybe he was descendant of the peverell brothers, thats how he was related very distantly to harry, but what does that have to do with him being a founder? Confused
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PostPosted: April 4, 2008 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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what? you lost me, i dont get what you're saying Confused

i mean that if slytherin had the ring then maybe he was descendant of the peverell brothers, thats how he was related very distantly to harry, but what does that have to do with him being a founder? Confused


The ring was from the Peverell brothers, not necassarily Salazar Slytherin.

You said, "and salazar slytherin was also a descendant right?"
A descendent of who? We're talking about the descendents of the founders... Salazar was a founder.
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PostPosted: April 4, 2008 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oooh, now i get it, yeah i know but i sort of strayed from the question to satisfy my curiosity Razz

wasnt there a point in the 6th book where the ring is said to belong to slytherin? or does it say peverell?
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PostPosted: April 4, 2008 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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oooh, now i get it, yeah i know but i sort of strayed from the question to satisfy my curiosity Razz

wasnt there a point in the 6th book where the ring is said to belong to slytherin? or does it say peverell?


It only mentions the Peverell coat of arms being on it, nothing about Slytherin on it. But Gaunt says that it was in the family for centuries, so some people took it to mean it was Slytherin's.
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PostPosted: April 4, 2008 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how about hufflepuff? we know voldie was too into his quest to bother with relations. as mentioned, the daughter of ravenclaw died. and what was said about gryffies?
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PostPosted: April 4, 2008 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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how about hufflepuff? we know voldie was too into his quest to bother with relations. as mentioned, the daughter of ravenclaw died. and what was said about gryffies?


Who cares about Hufflepuff? Confused


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jk! *huggles ravvy* Razz
The books never say if there are any descendants left of Hufflepuff or Gryffindor, asssuming there were any to begin with.


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PostPosted: April 4, 2008 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ravvy wrote:
how about hufflepuff?



Ravvy, you are the descendent of Helga Hufflepuff.
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PostPosted: April 4, 2008 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ravenclaw doesnt have descendants? Sad
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PostPosted: April 4, 2008 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ravenclaw doesnt have descendants? Sad



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PostPosted: April 4, 2008 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hahha u wish zenny Razz <333

but seriously, did the gray lady have kids before she died?
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PostPosted: April 4, 2008 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hahha u wish zenny Razz <333

but seriously, did the gray lady have kids before she died?


No, she didn't. Not unless she had an illicit lovechild.
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