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Your Worst Nightmare
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| sallyann22 wrote: |
Found this arguement.... What do you think?
We have seen love in the Ministry of Magic, behind a door in the Department of Mysteries, which cannot be opened. When Voldemort possessed Harry during his duel with Dumbledore, it was the love and emotion inside Harry at the thought of Sirius which Voldemort could not stand. It is also love which prevented Harry being killed by Voldemort in the first place, in the way his mother died to save him. It would be useful to note here that Voldemort can now touch Harry despite this sacrifice. This too, is not without its mysteries:
‘He said my blood would make him stronger than if he’d used someone else’s,’ Harry told Dumbledore. ‘He said the protection my – my mother left in me – he’d have it too. And he was right – he could touch me without hurting himself, he touched my face.’ For a fleeting instant, Harry thought he saw a gleam of something like triumph in Dumbledore’s eyes. But next second, Harry was sure he had imagined it.’- The Goblet of Fire, ch36, The Parting of the Ways
Why would Dumbledore see this as triumphant? A possible theory is that Voldemort now has part of Harry inside him, the part which loves. He has the sacrifice of Lily running in his veins.
If our theories are correct, and it is love which can defeat Voldemort, then he is already victim to his weakness. |
AND THIS LADIES AND GENTELMEN-TRUE BRILLIANCE!....THIS WAS GREAT THIS THEORY WAS GREAT!!!! WONDERFUL!
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wow nice that is a good theory. 
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All he needs is a little love. Have a hug, Voldy!
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lol 
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| sallyann22 wrote: |
Found this arguement.... What do you think?
We have seen love in the Ministry of Magic, behind a door in the Department of Mysteries, which cannot be opened. When Voldemort possessed Harry during his duel with Dumbledore, it was the love and emotion inside Harry at the thought of Sirius which Voldemort could not stand. It is also love which prevented Harry being killed by Voldemort in the first place, in the way his mother died to save him. It would be useful to note here that Voldemort can now touch Harry despite this sacrifice. This too, is not without its mysteries:
‘He said my blood would make him stronger than if he’d used someone else’s,’ Harry told Dumbledore. ‘He said the protection my – my mother left in me – he’d have it too. And he was right – he could touch me without hurting himself, he touched my face.’ For a fleeting instant, Harry thought he saw a gleam of something like triumph in Dumbledore’s eyes. But next second, Harry was sure he had imagined it.’- The Goblet of Fire, ch36, The Parting of the Ways
Why would Dumbledore see this as triumphant? A possible theory is that Voldemort now has part of Harry inside him, the part which loves. He has the sacrifice of Lily running in his veins.
If our theories are correct, and it is love which can defeat Voldemort, then he is already victim to his weakness. |
Dumbledores already said the Voldemorts weakness is love. He has never learned to love. He has always been a loner. even has a child when he started hogwarts he wante no help finding his way down the diagon ally.
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sallyann22
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no help finding his way diagon ally. |
That's because he was going Vertically.
Voldemort was a bit of a "warped" kid, not much has changed really since he was 6 years old, apart from the concept of world domination.
He can charm to get what he wants, so he could be likeable. He's not isolated, he's just manipulative.
*that's my sirius mood over with*
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| ThE_DaRk_MaRk wrote: |
no help finding his way diagon ally. |
That's because he was going Vertically.
Voldemort was a bit of a "warped" kid, not much has changed really since he was 6 years old, apart from the concept of world domination.
He can charm to get what he wants, so he could be likeable. He's not isolated, he's just manipulative.
*that's my sirius mood over with* |
hum. Even Dumbledore states that he never wanted friends or family just followers so yes manipulative would be the word but when i stated he was a "loner" i didn't mean he was alone but his feelings were.
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I don't understand Voldemorts preoccupation with death.
Dumbledore's happy about going, and Voldemorts really scared by it.
Why?
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I don't understand Voldemorts preoccupation with death.
Dumbledore's happy about going, and Voldemorts really scared by it.
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My guess would have to be that he fears death. He fears death knowing he won't expect whats going to happen. He knows he has the power to conquer the living by extending his life and he wants to rule. If he dies he knows nothing of the after life. Who says something "bad" won't happen to him? Thats why he tries to live has much has he can.
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some idea of living.
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JKR on Voldemort
Has Voldemort or Tom Riddle ever cared for or loved anyone?
Now, that’s a cracking question to end with—very good. No, never. [Laughter.] If he had, he couldn’t possibly be what he is.
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Very true. If Voldemort could love, then he wouldn't be as evil and twisted as he is. If Voldemort could love, he wouldn't be so afraid of death. If Voldemort could love, then Harry wouldn't have strength over him, and would, in truth, be powerless.
If Voldemort could love, a lot of things would be different!
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| Gred_and_Forge wrote: |
Very true. If Voldemort could love, then he wouldn't be as evil and twisted as he is. If Voldemort could love, he wouldn't be so afraid of death. If Voldemort could love, then Harry wouldn't have strength over him, and would, in truth, be powerless.
If Voldemort could love, a lot of things would be different! |
See thats the whole thing about Harry and Voldemort.
The prophecy said "He would mark his equal"
So in doing so not only does Harry have power over Voldemort but love to. There like yin and yang. Opposites with great power.
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Exactly. Voldemort has to manipulate people to get them to help him- but people love Harry and he loves them back, so they help him. The best example is at the end of HBP when Harry says he's going to fight Voldemort instead of coming back to Hogwarts. Ron and Hermione immediately say they're helping, too. It's all love!
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NO!
I think he would rather die than fall into the crowd because hes too cool 
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there is no chance in hell he will turn good
nice pictures of harry and voldemort on the first page though lol
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i think it would be a good twist to the story plot, i mean if voldemort turned good, then what would ppl do to him. i mean i think that they might just try to go after him and kill him cuz i don't think they would really believe he turned good. then what, but it could happen but it is a long shot, harry i think wouldn't forgive him even if he did turn good and apologize.
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| i think it would be a good twist to the story plot, i mean if voldemort turned good, then what would ppl do to him. i mean i think that they might just try to go after him and kill him cuz i don't think they would really believe he turned good. then what, but it could happen but it is a long shot, harry i think wouldn't forgive him even if he did turn good and apologize. |
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