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ray_30579
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PostPosted: February 28, 2008 7:14 pm    Post subject: Okay, I really did search.... Reply with quote

What is an elementalist? I couldn't find it anywhere! Maybe not looking good enough but still. Looking at the name someone or somebody who could control a particular element?!
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PostPosted: February 28, 2008 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An Elementalist is someone who controls one of the four elements.
Fire.
Water.
Earth.
Wind.
Its someone who has master one of the four elements or has mastered all four elements.
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PostPosted: February 28, 2008 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok im so lost! Shocked

where in all the books does the word elementalist appears?
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PostPosted: February 28, 2008 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont know. That was a random topic in my opinion.
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PostPosted: February 28, 2008 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im quite sure that it isnt in the books, so this shouldnt be here
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PostPosted: February 29, 2008 7:05 am    Post subject: Sorry Reply with quote

I could've sworn I read it somewhere in the books, but I looked it up again. You were all right. It doesn't belong here. Wonder how it came into my head though.
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PostPosted: February 29, 2008 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol its ok, u confused me for a second there Smile
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PostPosted: March 6, 2008 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I saw it somewhere in the books..But dont know where.
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PostPosted: March 6, 2008 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elementalist? I think.... maybe some of you have been playing a little too much WoW or that Guild Wars thing... I think some people might be cofusing role playing and HP canon.

http://www.google.com/search?q=elementalist&hl=en

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=elementalist+harry+potter

The only times elements are really mentioned in HP are when theorists, like myself who have perhaps too much time on their hands, wonder if each House is represented by an element. Gryffindor would be fire, Ravenclaw would be air, Hufflepuff would be Earth, and Slytherin would be water. Or is it Slytherin is Earth and Hufflepuff would be water? Well, anyway, that is the only time the elements are mentioned concerning HP that I'm aware of, except, of course, role playing games.
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PostPosted: March 17, 2008 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sarmadhashmi wrote:
I think I saw it somewhere in the books..But dont know where.


Yeah, it bothered me also. Interesting thing you posted Gin.
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PostPosted: April 6, 2008 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read in an interview by JKR that she corresponded the houses with the elements, and GinnyX, you were correct in your guess. She said that Gryffindor was Fire, Ravenclaw was Air, Hufflepuff was Earth, and Slytherin was Water. You might remember a lot about a blazing fire in the Gryffindor common room, and I've also read that the Sytherin common room was under the black lake. I think it was in the same interview that I read that.
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PostPosted: April 6, 2008 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ Also, the ravenclaw common room is very open and airy. Plus its mascot is a bird.

Then there is Hufflepuff. It's mascot is a badger, which digs tunnels in the earth. The common room is basically under Hogwarts, and the dorms are found through tunnels, like a badger.

I just read about the Hufflepuff commom room in the lexicon, but I always knew that there was a reason that I adamantly did not want to be a hufflepuff. It's not that there is anything wrong with huffs, but now I realize that I could no live in those dorms. It just seems depressing to live in tunnels under Hogwarts. I prefer the airy ravenclaw tower over-looking the mountains.
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PostPosted: April 6, 2008 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NineandThreeQuarters wrote:
I read in an interview by JKR that she corresponded the houses with the elements, and GinnyX, you were correct in your guess. She said that Gryffindor was Fire, Ravenclaw was Air, Hufflepuff was Earth, and Slytherin was Water. You might remember a lot about a blazing fire in the Gryffindor common room, and I've also read that the Sytherin common room was under the black lake. I think it was in the same interview that I read that.


Do you have the link to the interview, I'd love to see it.
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PostPosted: April 6, 2008 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ Here it is;

ES: Just in lesser numbers.

JKR: Probably. I hear you. It is the tradition to have four houses, but in this case, I wanted them to correspond roughly to the four elements. So Gryffindor is fire, Ravenclaw is air, Hufflepuff is earth, and Slytherin is water, hence the fact that their common room is under the lake. So again, it was this idea of harmony and balance, that you had four necessary components and by integrating them you would make a very strong place. But they remain fragmented, as we know.



http://www.accio-quote.org/articles/2005/0705-tlc_mugglenet-anelli-3.htm
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PostPosted: April 6, 2008 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zengrenouille wrote:
^ Here it is;

ES: Just in lesser numbers.

JKR: Probably. I hear you. It is the tradition to have four houses, but in this case, I wanted them to correspond roughly to the four elements. So Gryffindor is fire, Ravenclaw is air, Hufflepuff is earth, and Slytherin is water, hence the fact that their common room is under the lake. So again, it was this idea of harmony and balance, that you had four necessary components and by integrating them you would make a very strong place. But they remain fragmented, as we know.



http://www.accio-quote.org/articles/2005/0705-tlc_mugglenet-anelli-3.htm


Thank you! I wonder if I saw that interview before and that's where I got those corresponding elements from.
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PostPosted: April 6, 2008 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ I never even heard or thought of it myself until I first saw this thread. Then I researched the use of the elements in HP, and I came across that quote. It was hard to find again. I had to put a few different types of wording into accio quote. I ended up finding it with "elements houses." It seems so simple, but it took me awhile . . .
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PostPosted: April 7, 2008 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, do you think the students have some qualities of their respective houses?
I mean the elements that their house represent.
HP is for example fiery.?
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PostPosted: April 7, 2008 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

see i told you we were like a secret society. we have secret tunnels oooooo

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PostPosted: April 7, 2008 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ray_30579 wrote:
So, do you think the students have some qualities of their respective houses?
I mean the elements that their house represent.
HP is for example fiery.?


I definately think that the students have a bit of their respective houses' elements in their personalities. Haha . . . just look at Luna.
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PostPosted: May 11, 2008 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting hypothesis. However, I find it distasteful how some houses are portrayed in contrast to others. Though, it is quite unique...

Anyways, the question regarding an elementalist:

An elementalist is a person who uses or is adept at controlling a single or multiple elements. These elements are usually depicted as fire, water, wind, and earth (the alchemic elements). However there are other elements which appear in eastern mythology such as wood, metal, lightning, light (heaven), dark (earth/hell), and other such. Usually, an elementalist is portrayed as a user of magic or a natural user due to genetics, or something along the lines.

Elementalists have appeared in a number of places such as in books, games, movies, and even in real life (usually in the pagan and druidic practices.

Also, note that such things as ki, chakkra, aether, ether, quintessence, and mana do not count as elements. They are purely spiritual power which comes from the soul. However, mana is debatable due to its composition. As a whole is not considered elemental energy, but it is composed of the four alchemic elements (supposedly), thus it is debatable.

Anyways, that's my two bits.

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PostPosted: May 13, 2008 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, thanks for the update.
I did know what an elementalist was essentially.
I thought they were mentioned in one of the HP books.
So my question was; what's an elementalist in HP.
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PostPosted: May 13, 2008 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I don't see how this belongs in Characters and Creatures so ...

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PostPosted: May 13, 2008 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ray_30579 wrote:
Hey, thanks for the update.
I did know what an elementalist was essentially.
I thought they were mentioned in one of the HP books.
So my question was; what's an elementalist in HP.


I don't think an elementalist in HP is any different than an elementalist in real life... It's someone who follows the elements...
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PostPosted: May 15, 2008 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

..though in HP, for as far as i know, no one actually follows one certain element. All characters have relatively equal knowledge of the different elements. Plus, there are certain spells which can't really be sorted onder any of the four.

As for the students of each house, they can also have characteristics based on it's repective element. It doesn't necesarily have to be their magic power.
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PostPosted: May 15, 2008 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ I don't think the spells themselves need to fall under the specific element, just the Houses in general.
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