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 Posted: February 24, 2008 12:44 pm Post subject: What ever happened to trelawny? |
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does it say so in the book? did jo mentioned it? 
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| Posted: February 24, 2008 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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She was fighting during the battle of Hogwarts (throwing crystal balls).
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| Posted: February 24, 2008 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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| She was fighting during the battle of Hogwarts (throwing crystal balls). |
lmaooo good one
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Actually, she really was. During the battle the trio sees her enchanted crystal balls to drop in Death Eaters heads.
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lol really? i dont remember that part
but my question really is, what happened to trelawny all that year in which the school was in voldy's palm?? was she hiding?
cause jo said dumbledore only kept her in the school so he could protect her from voldy
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You mean why didn't Voldemort go after her once Hogwarts was in his control? I don't know, but he had a few other things on his mind at the time (namely, getting the Elder Wand). But you're right, it would seem that once he had Hogwarts he would go after her immediately. Odd that he didn't (unless she indeed wasn't there and arrived only for the last battle, but that doesn't seem likely).
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Maybe he figured since she'd already given her prediction she was useless to him now.
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| Maybe he figured since she'd already given her prediction she was useless to him now. |
but she could make another one, as we well know
seems weird to think she was totally out of harm
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| Posted: February 25, 2008 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Maybe he figured since she'd already given her prediction she was useless to him now. |
Then why was DD guarding her?
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| Maybe he figured since she'd already given her prediction she was useless to him now. |
Then why was DD guarding her? |
That was seventeen years earlier. I'm sure at first she wasn't safe, but probably by now Voldemort isn't as concerned with her as with all his other problems.
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| GinnyX wrote: |
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| Maybe he figured since she'd already given her prediction she was useless to him now. |
Then why was DD guarding her? |
That was seventeen years earlier. I'm sure at first she wasn't safe, but probably by now Voldemort isn't as concerned with her as with all his other problems. |
that doesnt sound right to me, there's no chance he would so easily leave alone the creator of the prophecy he's so obsessed with
there must be some explanation, maybe she went hiding
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She very well could have, and then returned to Hogwarts when the others did.
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| Posted: February 26, 2008 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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| GinnyX wrote: |
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| Maybe he figured since she'd already given her prediction she was useless to him now. |
Then why was DD guarding her? |
That was seventeen years earlier. I'm sure at first she wasn't safe, but probably by now Voldemort isn't as concerned with her as with all his other problems. |
He was still guarding her in OotP, that's why he made sure she stayed in the castle after Umbridge dismissed her. He says this explicitly in HBP chapter 20 (Lord Voldemort's Request):
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| Maybe he figured since she'd already given her prediction she was useless to him now. |
Then why was DD guarding her? |
That was seventeen years earlier. I'm sure at first she wasn't safe, but probably by now Voldemort isn't as concerned with her as with all his other problems. |
He was still guarding her in OotP, that's why he made sure she stayed in the castle after Umbridge dismissed her. He says this explicitly in HBP chapter 20 (Lord Voldemort's Request):
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| "No," said Dumbledore, "Divination is turning out to be much more trouble than I could have foreseen, never having studied the subject myself. I cannot ask Firenze to return to the forest, where he is now an outcast, nor can I ask Sybill Trelawney to leave. Between ourselves, she has no idea of the danger she would be in outside the castle. She does not know — and I think it would be unwise to enlighten her — that she made the prophecy about you and Voldemort, you see." |
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"By now" meaning by Deathly Hallows. A lot happened between OotP and Deathly Hallows, such as taking over the Ministry, killing people, hunting down Harry... that sort of thing.
As Dumbledore said she didn't know the dangers she was in. So she wouldn't have gone into hiding, because she didn't know she needed to go into hiding. Snape knew she was in danger, and since he was at the school and working for the Order, maybe he was able to keep her safe with out anyone knowing, like he did with Ginny, Luna, and Neville when they got caught stealing the sword.
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yes but he still didnt know the whole contents of the prophecy which was essential to him, so it was very likely he would have wanted to torture the woman for information
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| As Dumbledore said she didn't know the dangers she was in. So she wouldn't have gone into hiding, because she didn't know she needed to go into hiding |
that is what's very weird, she was doomed and yet she was quite alive by the end of DH
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| Snape knew she was in danger, and since he was at the school and working for the Order, maybe he was able to keep her safe with out anyone knowing |
that seems very unlikely, im sure voldy would have demanded that she was brought to him if it meant a possibility of hearing the whole prophecy
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that is what's very weird, she was doomed and yet she was quite alive by the end of DH
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As was Harry, who he was much more determined to capture.
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that is what's very weird, she was doomed and yet she was quite alive by the end of DH
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As was Harry, who he was much more determined to capture. |
yes, i know thats what i mean, there's no way she stayed on the school, i cant possibly see how she would've survived or at least there should have been a mention about how she was tortured for info
but as u said, she had no idea she was in danger so how on earth would she have known she had to flee? it doesnt make sense
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Even had she fled, why would she come back for the final battle? She doesn't seem to be the type... She was already at the castle, so she fought in her own way (cute how she finally figured out that those crystal balls are worthless for anything but throwing at the enemy...  )
I think it must have been Snape who somehow kept her safe as GinnyX said, but it's still odd that Voldemort didn't demand that he hand her over. The only somewhat plausible explanation that I can think of is, as I wrote before, that he had other things on his mind at the moment. Or maybe Snape told him that she didn't remember the prophecy (she defintely didn't remember making it, but maybe he lied to Voldemort and told him that he tried to break into her memory and didn't succeed to get it or something like that).
In any case, she was definitely still protected. Even during Harry's sixth year she was protected, as DD said.
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so jo never said anything about it huh? its intriguing
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MAAAYbe...
Maybe, Trelawney ran away with Pettigrew! Maybe they fled to Antarctica, where the migrating penguins kept them from Lord Voldie. Frequently, Peter would have to return to Lord V, but soon he would return to save his bonny lass. Then, when he was killed, Sybill took it upon herself to avenge her true loves memory!!
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O.o 0_0 o.O
...................ineresting theory
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| Posted: February 27, 2008 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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u nvr kno! maybe she did!
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...............sure................
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| Posted: February 27, 2008 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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maaaaaaaybe...
maybe she didnt run away with pettigrew.
perhaps she kidnapped lavender and parvati...
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