I have just realised something Binns the history of magic teacher has never been given a full title in any of the books he is always just called proffessor binns. I highly doubt that Binns is R.A.B. and like most people i think it is Sirius's brother Regulus but i don't think that it is that simple its too easy. What if R.A.B. is some relation of proffessor binns because i read in a couple of places that JK is going to give some info about the teachers and their families maybe this is one of them. It would be just the kind of twist that she would put in there
I am one of those people, who made a list of all possible canidates for R.A.B. Binns was on my list. Though I am still convinced, that Regulus Black is the guy, it is rather simple....
There is not much information on Binns so he could be R.A.B, I mean his name could be like Robert Albertus Binns or something like that (I just made that up). I don't know, it'a a good theory though. _________________ The 2 peole in this picture are Harry and Ginny
Not Binns. We go through the novels thinking very poorly of Binns--not a very good teacher, really boring, monotonous voice. I suppose it is possible, but I very highly doubt it. _________________ Fairytales are more than true; not because they tell us that dragons exist, but because they tell us that dragons can be beaten.
Professor Binns' first name 'Cuthbert' appears on a list Jo created while planning Prisoner of Azkaban; however, this cannot be considered canon because other information on this page changed by the time the book was actually published.
- the HP Lexicon
Didn't Jo say that she had all the books planned out? If she had them all planned out, then why would she name him Cuthbert? She stated she would never lead fans onto a wrong conclusion on purpose, so I doubt that Binns first name starts with an R.
Plus, she said that Regulus was a 'good guess' in one of her interviews or website or something or other.
Professor Binns' first name 'Cuthbert' appears on a list Jo created while planning Prisoner of Azkaban; however, this cannot be considered canon because other information on this page changed by the time the book was actually published.
- the HP Lexicon
Didn't Jo say that she had all the books planned out? If she had them all planned out, then why would she name him Cuthbert? She stated she would never lead fans onto a wrong conclusion on purpose, so I doubt that Binns first name starts with an R.
Plus, she said that Regulus was a 'good guess' in one of her interviews or website or something or other.
Tada.
Regulus infact is a very good guess but if she did come right out and SAID it, that its a really good guess loll then i'm pretty sure its not. She is NOT that simple ppl.
Not Binns. We go through the novels thinking very poorly of Binns--not a very good teacher, really boring, monotonous voice. I suppose it is possible, but I very highly doubt it.
I think it would work out because JK wouldent use a character we know nothing about so im thinking Regalus or Binns. If anybody has thought of anyone else that could be RAB then please tell me.
Ok here is another theory I have tought of what if RAB was not one person? I know its far fetched but it could be like Ron and Bob (just made those names up) so there would be an accomplice ok read this editorial, it gave me the idea.
Which Wizard? - An analysis of R.A.B.
"To the Dark Lord
I know I will be dead long before you read this
but I want you to know that it was I who discovered your secret.
I have stolen the real Horcrux and intend to destroy it as soon as I can.
I face death in the hope that when you meet your match,
you will be mortal once more.
R. A. B."
So now that we've all (hopefully) finished Half-Blood Prince, it's time to deal with the person who will most likely play a pivotal role in Book Seven: the mysterious R.A.B. who first discovered Lord Voldemort's secret.
In my evaluation, R.A.B. should be:
1) Dead or presumed dead
2) Familiar with both advanced Dark Magic and Lord Voldemort
3) Familiar with the prophecy
4) Weaker than Voldemort
5) Capable of stealing and hiding the Horcrux
6) Capable of enlisting or coercing an accomplice
The first three criteria come from the note itself; R.A.B. believed that he or she would soon die, knew what a Horcrux was and how Voldemort employed them and knew that a "match" of some sort would confront him. The last three may take a bit of explaining. R.A.B. obviously thought that he or she was not Voldemort's match, so therefore he or she is weaker than Lord Voldemort; with the exception of Dumbledore, Voldemort was the most powerful wizard in the world. This means that R.A.B. would have be a lesser wizard than Voldemort or Dumbledore, but still powerful, clever and brave enough to discover the secret, remove the Horcrux, and hide it long enough to destroy it.
But the last criterion is, in my opinion, the most interesting: R.A.B. could not have acted alone. As we all recall from Harry and Dumbledore's encounter with Voldemort's Horcrux, it is impossible to remove the Horcrux alone. R.A.B. must have cast Imperius to coerce assistance or have persuaded another wizard to stand against Voldemort as well.
It is now apparent that being R.A.B. is a tall order indeed. That being said, let's look at a few possible candidates.
I'm quite certain that R.A.B. is a character we have already met, particularly since JKR said in her interview with Emerson and Melissa <http://www.mugglenet.com/jkrinterview.shtml> that she would not introduce any major characters in Book Seven. Shortly after finishing HBP, I went straight to the Lexicon <http://www.hp-lexicon.org/> to search for wizards with a surname starting with B, and either first initial R or first and middle initial unknown. I then eliminated wizards without known connection to the Dark Arts or the Death Eaters and came up with the following list:
Sirius's Grandfather Black (Order of Merlin, First Class)
Mr. Borgin (of Borgin and Burkes)
Regulus Black (Sirius's little bro)
Bagman Sr. (Ludo and Otto's dad)
All of these characters have some link, however distant, to the Dark Arts: Bagman Senior was a friend of Rookwood (592, GoF 30), Regulus had a stint as a Death Eater (112, OotP 6), Sirius's grandpa wasn't wiped off the family tree (enough said), and Mr. Borgin co-runs a Dark Arts store in Knockturn Alley (51, CoS 4). That being said, nothing in the canon contains ironclad proof for any of these characters being R.A.B., Regulus being the only one with a known and fitting first initial.
We know absolutely nothing about Sirius's grandfather, other than the fact that he received an Order of Merlin, First Class for "Services to the Ministry," presumably in the form of a large pile of Galleons (116-17, OotP 6). Therefore, I will skip over him for now and simply consider him a vague possibility, but not a probability.
We begin our evaluation with:
Mr. Borgin
I can hear the skeptical scoffs and groans right now. Believe me, I thought the same thing and almost eliminated him from my list. However, I kept him there after a bit of thought and a long phone chat with a friend. I believe he is a possible candidate, although not highly probable.
First of all, let's take a look at the contradictions that punch holes in the theory for Borgin as R.A.B. First of all, he's definitely alive and kicking. Secondly, he's probably not familiar with the prophecy, or he at least wasn't before Voldemort's first fall. And thirdly, he's not even capable of standing up to Draco Malfoy or his father, let alone the Darkest Lord who ever lived.
So why do I think he is still possible?
Borgin's shop is full of all sorts of Dark stuff of questionable origin. Borgin and Burkes is supposedly the largest shop in Knockturn Alley (53, CoS 4) and, it has been well established since Voldemort's time. This is pure speculation on my part, but with a shop that size and customers such as Mr. Malfoy, it is likely that some of the items in the shop are either Horcruxes or former Horcruxes. As the shop's co-owner, Mr. Borgin would have to have some familiarity with the Horcrux, among all sorts of other nasty Dark Magic.
Most of Borgin's clients are probably Death Eaters or Dark wizards and witches anyway. It is also possible that Borgin simply overheard the Death Eaters while they were in his shop or picked some rumors off the street. Keep in mind that he is a shopkeeper, and one of Voldemort's Horcruxes would be an excellent addition to his collection of goods. Maybe he and Burkes simply became a bit too greedy and curious for their own good and decided to pursue the Horcrux for their own ends.
However, on a different and much more interesting thread of reasoning, let us trace a bit of Voldemort's past. We know that Voldemort was already considering Horcruxes when he was at Hogwarts, and we also know that he worked at Borgin and Burkes after he left school. It would be highly unlike Voldemort to ask Borgin for help with the Horcrux, but I'm certain that Borgin might have picked up on some of Voldemort's interests and talents while he worked in the shop. As for the locket itself, it was not a Horcrux when it was in Borgin's possession. However, he must have realized that someone was after it when Hepzibah Smith was killed and her treasures taken. Riddle had visited her not two days ago... maybe after Voldemort left the shop Borgin began putting two and two together...
Borgin as R.A.B. poses more questions than it answers, and it stretches canon more than a bit; if he were revealed as R.A.B. in Book Seven, JKR would have a good deal of explaining to do, especially on the fact that he's still alive. Which brings us to a much more probable candidate...
Regulus Black
There is already a great deal of speculation swirling around Regulus as R.A.B., and with good reason. He's good and dead (as far as we know), served Voldemort briefly as a Death Eater, knows a good bit of the Dark Arts, and is definitely much weaker than Voldemort. In addition, he died fifteen years previous to OotP, presumably in 1980 (112, OotP 6). Dumbledore states at the end of OotP that Trelawney made the prophecy sixteen years previous to OotP, probably in 1979 (840, OotP 37). This means that Regulus was alive and probably a Death Eater at the time of the prophecy. It is highly likely that he knew about the prophecy, either from another Death Eater or from Voldemort. This would give him a whole year before his death to process its meaning.
The waters grow a bit muddier with our last two criteria. According to Sirius, Regulus "got in so far, then panicked about what he was being asked to do and tried to back out." (112, OotP 6) He also describes Regulus as his "idiot brother." (111, OotP 6) This does not bode well for our theory; R.A.B. needs to be powerful enough of a wizard to steal the Horcrux, but also brave enough to face death. Regulus sounds like neither, but we are learning this from Sirius's perspective, which is likely biased.
Sirius describes his brother as "soft" and "idiot," (111, OotP 6) NOT as "evil." Regulus was probably easily brainwashed by Voldemort and his parents, but not an evil person at heart. Sirius seems to think Regulus lacked nerve, but I'm inclined to disagree: Regulus was a Death Eater and therefore must have known the penalty for deserting Lord Voldemort. He must have known that he was well marked for death.
As for discovering Voldemort's secret and stealing the Horcrux, think of the nature of 12 Grimmauld Place. There are all sorts of Dark objects there, and I'm inclined to think that there are a whole lot of books dealing with the Darkest of magic stashed somewhere in that place. There was probably more in the house before Voldemort's first fall. Regulus was a Death Eater, and according to Voldemort himself, the Death Eaters knew the steps he had taken toward immortality (648, GoF 33). Regulus would only have to find the Horcrux and gain an accomplice. As far as his accomplice is concerned, we have a few options. He could have Imperiused someone, but I think not. In my opinion, he either used Kreacher to help him drink the potion, or he drank the potion himself and had Kreacher take the locket. Harry is now Kreacher's master, and if Regulus really did use Kreacher, Kreacher could prove priceless in the search for Voldemort's remaining Horcruxes.
Well, if Regulus really is R.A.B., where is Slytherin's locket? Regulus would have to hide the locket long enough to try and destroy it, and where other than 12 Grimmauld Place? Sirius's father "placed every security measure known to Wizard-kind on it." (115, OotP 6). And most interestingly, while Harry and company are cleaning out Dark junk in the house, they discover a "heavy locket that none of them could open." (116, OotP 6) Interesting? Yes. Unfortunately, that locket was probably thrown out with the rest of the stuff from the Black family cabinets, which means that we've got no idea where it is now. Perhaps Harry should start trawling through wizarding landfills? Or maybe, just maybe, Kreacher actually managed to steal back something of value?
Or maybe that locket is just another piece of Black family stuff, and R.A.B. is actually...
Bagman Senior
Ah, Ludovic Bagman's father... where do I begin? After our treatment of Regulus, it seems almost superfluous to consider anyone else. I had intended to simply write off Bagman as I had Sirius's grandfather, but I had a sudden brainwave through a mouthful of Caesar salad at dinner and decided it was too good to scrap, despite our lack of canon knowledge about him.
Here is all we know about Mr. Bagman, as told from Ludo's perspective:
"'Old Rookwood was a friend of my dad's... never crossed my mind he was in with You-Know-Who!'"
(592, GoF 30)
So Bagman Senior and Augustus Rookwood were friends, and Rookwood turned out to be a spy for Voldemort within the Ministry. Now comes the interesting bit: Rookwood worked for the Department of Mysteries (590, GoF 30). As we all know, the Department of Mysteries studies all sorts of things: time, death, brains, love... considering the Ministry's involvement with Dementors, it is very possible that Department of Mysteries also studies souls, which would lead us to... Horcruxes.
Rookwood may have also known about the prophecy after working for both Voldemort and the DoM, and he might have let something slip to Bagman Senior. I can't say much more about Bagman Senior, given how little we know about him, but the idea is certainly interesting. If Bagman Senior is dead, it leaves the Slytherin Horcrux, if it still exists, in the possession of either Ludo or Otto Bagman. Ludo fled the goblins (732, GoF 37), and we haven't got a clue where he is. However, Mr. Weasley helped Otto out of a spot with an unnaturally magical lawnmower (61, GoF 5). Perhaps Otto owes Mr. Weasley a favor... in the form of a certain locket?
This is only my speculation: I can't prove that any of these wizards are definitely R.A.B: I simply think that Bagman Sr., Regulus, and Borgin are a bit more likely than the rest of the wizards on my original list, which included Basil, Binns, Wizard Baruffio, Mrs. Bones, Bradley, Rudolf Brand, Blotts, and Bozo. In conclusion, here are the wizards I believe could be R.A.B., in order of probability:
1) Regulus Black
2) Bagman Senior
3) Mr. Borgin
4) Sirius's Grandfather (again, a vague, distant possibility)
But let's not forget what I personally find just as interesting as R.A.B: whoever R.A.B. is, he or she HAD to have had an accomplice to steal the Horcrux. R.A.B. may be dead or missing, but what's to say that the accomplice isn't? _________________ <iframe src="http://www.iconator.com//box-one.php?id=825523" width="96" height="96" frameborder="0" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" scrolling="no" allowtransparency="true" background-color="transparent"></iframe>
It could very well be one of the people in the room the night they discuss Horcrx .One of the boys could have hung around to listen.I will reread that section and see who wa sin the room.
i will have to read that chapter again because slughorn did say some names. i was also thinking that if RAB only put their initials then voldemort either knew them well either as voldemort or as tom, or they didnt want him to find out who they were, but the letter sounded to me like they were friends. _________________ <iframe src="http://www.iconator.com//box-one.php?id=825523" width="96" height="96" frameborder="0" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" scrolling="no" allowtransparency="true" background-color="transparent"></iframe>
i will have to read that chapter again because slughorn did say some names. i was also thinking that if RAB only put their initials then voldemort either knew them well either as voldemort or as tom, or they didnt want him to find out who they were, but the letter sounded to me like they were friends.
Thats a good point.
RAB sounds like someone Voldemort knew well. _________________ Education is the passport to the future, for tomorrow belongs to those who prepare for it today.
I think that R.A.B is the person who overheard the the first part of the profecy being told, 16 years ago. I also think that R.A.B was indeed regulus black, he however wasn't alone. He had an accomplice. Person to take care of the inferi. I think Regulus had time to hide the locket before being cornered by Voldemort. In Order to keep the location of the locket safe, he killed himself. (Voldemort could have got the location out of him with some Vertisium) [/quote]
i think binns will have something to do with this book, even if he isnt RAB. he is a teacher we are familiar with but know nothing about. there are other teachers that we hear about but dont know about, but there are many times when we are in binns's class. _________________ but perhaps those who are best suited to power are those who have never sought it. Those who have leadership thrust upon them ... and take the mantle because they must, to find to their own surprise that they wear it well
Bins died sitting in a chair in the Proffesors place. Was it because of old age or was it because he was weak after his journey??? I don't thing Binns was R.A.B because he was kind of close to dumbledore, and would have told him before dumbledore went to find the Locket. Saving Dumbledores life.
I think R.A.B., If it is a teacher at Hogwarts, will have to be someone that was in the previous movies. I think Jo never would have let them cut out an important character no matter how small the role was, as she would have known that he/she would play a major role later on, so I think we can eliminate teachers that have not been seen in the movies.
I have just realised something Binns the history of magic teacher has never been given a full title in any of the books he is always just called proffessor binns. I highly doubt that Binns is R.A.B. and like most people i think it is Sirius's brother Regulus but i don't think that it is that simple its too easy. What if R.A.B. is some relation of proffessor binns because i read in a couple of places that JK is going to give some info about the teachers and their families maybe this is one of them. It would be just the kind of twist that she would put in there
i love this theory. jk rowling doesnt want stuff to be too predicatble, and if she is aware that we think its regulus, i highly doubt she will like that. she may either change it, or she may not have intended rab to be regulus after all. yeah professor binns. it fits! history teacher - hello! he knows the history of the founders. he would realize that voldie would use a relic of the founders as horcrux. so he found the locket.
Binns wasn't always a ghost. we were never told when exactly he died. it could have been 5.......10...... maybe 30 years ago we don't know. maybe he went and got the horcrux and died from exaustion. we don't know. Maybe sombody killed him while he was sitting in his chair asleep. the point is we have no idea and won't untill Jo tells us in the 7th book. _________________ <iframe src="http://www.iconator.com//box-one.php?id=825523" width="96" height="96" frameborder="0" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" scrolling="no" allowtransparency="true" background-color="transparent"></iframe>
but dont you think the dumbledore would have known _________________ and so, The Fellowship of the Phoenix set off on their journey into the heart of Voldemordor
to destroy the One Horcrux ...
'YOU SHALL NOT PASS' - Dumbledore the White
'my precious' - Kreacher
if i recall, binns never knew he was dead. i think in one of the first few books, someone says that he just came to teach one day, leaving behind his body. could be he got the killing curse in his sleep or something. i also have another speculation. what if R.A.B. is not just one person, but maybe 2 or 3? that would inlcude the accomplice in the name also.
good idea but if i recaLL correctly R.A.B worte the letter in first person
(i, me ect) never using a pural _________________ and so, The Fellowship of the Phoenix set off on their journey into the heart of Voldemordor
to destroy the One Horcrux ...
'YOU SHALL NOT PASS' - Dumbledore the White
'my precious' - Kreacher
of course, wouldnt you? if your accomplice was part of scheme, would you want people to know you had an accomplice? probably not. or could be that the person was so arrogant, that just wanted all the credit.
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