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potterfan6047
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PostPosted: July 5, 2007 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not think that Nagnini is a horcrux because why voldy place part of his soul in something that can die? I mean Nagnini has to die some time its not immortal. And it couldnt be that hard to kill a snake if you have the right training. Even if it is like 90 feet long

but then again i could be wrong
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PostPosted: July 5, 2007 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe Harry is a horocrux. I think that he will have to kill Voldemort then turn around and kill himself to prevent Voldemort from taking that last bit of soul. I think that, there might even be 8 different ones, and the last one was a mistake that happened on the night that Harry's parents were murdered. Heres's my list

1. Nagini
2. Hufflepuff's cup
3. Riddles Diary
4. The locket
5. Something of Ravenclaws
6. Something of Gryffindors
7. The piece left in Voldemort
8. Harry
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fadu_3
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PostPosted: July 7, 2007 7:16 pm    Post subject: THIS DOES NOT MAKE SENSE... Reply with quote

Guyz, it makes absolutely no sense to believe that Harry is a horcrux. As wqe already know, a HORCRUX CAN ONLY BE PRODUCED IF A WIZARD KILLS ANOTHER...THAT NIGHT...VOLDEMORT WENT TO KILL HARRY...THE BOY WHO WAS DESTINED TO BRING HIS DOWNFALL...NOT TO CREATE A HORCRUX...

Have you not heard on countless occasions, from none other than DD that VOLDEMORT CANNOT STAND TO RESIDE IN HARRY DUE TO THE LOVE HE CARRIES, as we saw in Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. It is this tendency of love in Harry that makes him superior to Voldemort, as Dumbledore keeps reminding Harry in HBP. Harry himself underestimates and feels dissapointed by this. VOLDEMORT AND HARRY HAVE HAD THE SAME CHILDHOODS (AS ORPHANS DEPRIVED OF LOVE). YET HARRY HAS GREAT FEELINGS OF LOVE IN HIM. VOLDEMORT CANNOT BEAR TO KEEP HIS SOUL IN SUCH A BODY.

And the idea does not even make sense. Once a wizard kills another, it takes some advance dark magic to create a horcrux, and as we know VOLDEMORT LOST HIS POWERS THAT NIGHT. HOW CAN HE HAVE MADE A HORCRUX IN HARRY WHEN HE WAS HIT BY HIS OWN KILLING CURSE.
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PostPosted: July 8, 2007 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shishka wrote:
We don't know that Ravenclaw has something. Harry says "Something of Gryffindor's or Ravenclaw's. My bet's on the sword.


I highley doubt that it is the sword. How could Voldie get the sword to turn it into a horcrux if only a true Gryffindor could get it out of that hat?
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muggleblood
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PostPosted: July 10, 2007 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i am positive that harry is the last horcrux

how do you think harry and voldomort are so closly connected and dumbledore wanted harry to learn occulmacy

voldie can read harrys thoughts becasue of this connection and hence harry can speak parsle tounge and has all the problems with the dementors becasue he has voldies soul in him , the dementors are drawn to evil and they always head straight for harry !
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fadu_3
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PostPosted: July 10, 2007 6:07 pm    Post subject: HARRY CANNNOT BE A HORCRUX Reply with quote

If you pay attention to HBP, a horcrux can only be created when a wizard kills another...and then has to perform some advanced darm magic to create a horcrux...AND VOLDEMORT WANTED TO KILL HARRY (THE BOY WHO WAS DESTINED TO KILL HIM) and the night at Godric's Hollow...Voldemort lost his body while trying to kill Harry...how on earth could Voldemort have made Harry a horcrux when the Avada Kedavra rebounded on him...and WHY ON EARTH WOULD VOLDEMORT MAKE A HORCRUX OF TH BOY WHO WAS DESTINED TO KILL HIM...
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PostPosted: July 10, 2007 6:23 pm    Post subject: DEMENTORS PULL HAPPINESS OUT OF A PLACE.... Reply with quote

The dementors were abt 2 kiss Dudley in Order of The Phoenix....Does that mean Dudley is a horcrux????? Does that mean Dudley shares Voldemort's characteristics...

Harry can speak Parseltongue and shares Voldemort's characteristics bcoz the curse that Harry was hit by and rebounded off...gave him some of his powers...THAT IN NO WAY SUGGESTS THAT HARRY IS A HORCRUX...
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muggleblood
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PostPosted: July 10, 2007 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

who says dudley doesnt have magical abilitys as well !

yes hbp explains this but remebr dd thought that nagini the snake could be a horcrux

to create a horcrux you need to kill and be holding a item that you want to pass your soul into , voldie killed lilly , he was touching HP when this happend and thats whats caused harry to be a horcrux

thats my 10 cents worth
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PostPosted: July 10, 2007 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JK said there is nothing more to Dudley than meets the eye. and where does it say you have to be touching the thing you're making into a horcrux? and if that were the case, Voldy would have known not to touch harry whilst making it, as he'd made at least 5 before. the only way the harry is a horcrux theory could possibly work is if voldy did it on accident.
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PostPosted: July 11, 2007 3:03 am    Post subject: HARRY IS NOT!!! Reply with quote

Evil or Very Mad

Harry is not!!!
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Brittany, Many people believe that harry is the last horcure but everyone is forgeting that in the books it is said what the six!!! horcures.... Diary, Locket, Ring, Nagine, Huffibuff cup, something of gryffindor or something of ravenclaw.
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PostPosted: July 11, 2007 3:59 am    Post subject: IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE... Reply with quote

FIRST OF ALL DUDLEY HAS NOTHING MAGICAL ABT HIM...THIS HAS BEEEN CONFIRMEDD....SECONDLY YOU CANNOT CREATE A HORCRUX BY ACCIDENT....YOU CANNOT SPLIT YOUR SOULD WITHOUT KNOWING YOU HAVE....IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE...

HERE IS THE BET.....YOU WILL READ THE BOOK BY THE 22ND OF JULY AND SOOO WILL I...LETS SEE WHO WINS
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Dobby1001
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PostPosted: July 12, 2007 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Harry is the last Horcrux", if this is true then I'd say JK is brilliant. That would put more pressure on our poor Harry. He has to find a way to separate the Horcrux from him in order to defeat Dumbledore. This would also explain why Harry was not targeted seriously in Book 6. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: July 12, 2007 12:46 pm    Post subject: HARRY IS NOT A HORCRUX Reply with quote

HARRY WAS NOT TARGETED IN BOOK 6 BECAUSE VOLDEMORT WANTS TO KILL HARRY....AND IF YOU REMEMBER...VOLDEMORT TRIED TO KILL HARRY IN BOOK 4 AND BOOK 5 IN THE CHAMBER OF MYSTERIES...HARRY IS NOT A HORCRUX....IT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE....
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Dobby1001
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PostPosted: July 12, 2007 12:56 pm    Post subject: Re: HARRY IS NOT A HORCRUX Reply with quote

fadu_3 wrote:
HARRY WAS NOT TARGETED IN BOOK 6 BECAUSE VOLDEMORT WANTS TO KILL HARRY....AND IF YOU REMEMBER...VOLDEMORT TRIED TO KILL HARRY IN BOOK 4 AND BOOK 5 IN THE CHAMBER OF MYSTERIES...HARRY IS NOT A HORCRUX....IT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE....


The reason why Voldy tried to kill Harry initially was because Voldy himself didn't know that Harry is indeed a horcrux that is why in Book 6 he never had any serious attempts to kill Harry anymore.
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Twinsboy48
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PostPosted: July 12, 2007 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if harry is a horcrux, it doesnt necessarily mean that he must kill himself to destroy the horcrux. it would help if we had more information on how to make or destroy horcruxes tho.

personally, i dont believe harry is a horcrux. i think the horcruxes are:

1. riddle's diary (destroyed)
2. gaunt's ring (destroyed)
3. slytherin's locket (destroyed???)
4. hufflepuff's cup
5. something of gryffindor or ravenclaw
6. nagini

i agree with dumbledore. unless we find out that harry is gryffindor's heir, which could be of importance to voldemort. maybe the night voldy killed harrys parents, he actually wanted to make harry a horcrux, and then kill neville instead of harry? just a thought.
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R.A.B
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PostPosted: July 13, 2007 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no way it would not make sense and make the whole series a mess i wouldnt read it again if that happened it would ruin it
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PostPosted: July 14, 2007 4:08 am    Post subject: Re: HARRY IS NOT A HORCRUX Reply with quote

[quote="Dobby1001"][quote="fadu_3"]HARRY WAS NOT TARGETED IN BOOK 6 BECAUSE VOLDEMORT WANTS TO KILL HARRY....AND IF YOU REMEMBER...VOLDEMORT TRIED TO KILL HARRY IN BOOK 4 AND BOOK 5 IN THE CHAMBER OF MYSTERIES...HARRY IS NOT A HORCRUX....IT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE....[/quote]

The reason why Voldy tried to kill Harry initially was because Voldy himself didn't know that Harry is indeed a horcrux that is why in Book 6 he never had any serious attempts to kill Harry anymore.[/quote]



HARRY WAS NOT TARGETED IN BOOOK 6...BECAUSE...IN BOOK 6...VOLDEMORT'S MAIN AIM WAS TO BRING HARRY'S LAST AND GREATEST PROTECTOR (DUMBLEDORE) DOWN....DONT YOU NOTICE WHAT HE IS DOING...HE IS TRYING TO KILL ALL HARRY'S PROTECTORS SO THAT AT THE END HE IS LEFT ALONE...

REMEMBER WHAT SNAPE SAID...."HE IS TO BE LEFT FOR THE DARK LORD"......
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PostPosted: July 14, 2007 4:09 am    Post subject: Re: HARRY IS NOT A HORCRUX Reply with quote

[quote="Dobby1001"][quote="fadu_3"]HARRY WAS NOT TARGETED IN BOOK 6 BECAUSE VOLDEMORT WANTS TO KILL HARRY....AND IF YOU REMEMBER...VOLDEMORT TRIED TO KILL HARRY IN BOOK 4 AND BOOK 5 IN THE CHAMBER OF MYSTERIES...HARRY IS NOT A HORCRUX....IT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE....[/quote]

The reason why Voldy tried to kill Harry initially was because Voldy himself didn't know that Harry is indeed a horcrux that is why in Book 6 he never had any serious attempts to kill Harry anymore.[/quote]



HARRY WAS NOT TARGETED IN BOOOK 6...BECAUSE...IN BOOK 6...VOLDEMORT'S MAIN AIM WAS TO BRING HARRY'S LAST AND GREATEST PROTECTOR (DUMBLEDORE) DOWN....DONT YOU NOTICE WHAT HE IS DOING...HE IS TRYING TO KILL ALL HARRY'S PROTECTORS SO THAT AT THE END HE IS LEFT ALONE...

REMEMBER WHAT SNAPE SAID...."HE IS TO BE LEFT FOR THE DARK LORD"......
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PostPosted: July 16, 2007 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PEOPLE BELIEVING HARRY IS A HORCRUX ARE MORONS!! WHY WOULD VOLDEMORT WANT TO KILL HARRY IF HE'S A MORON. WELL IF HARRY IS A HORCRUX THEN VOLDEMORT IS A MORON. Anyway... I believe harry isn't a horcrux....


I really believe that the "Deathly Hallows" are the Hocruxes... I tried to research about Hallows. and I came to a part where I got these informations.:::



In some legends there are actually 4 Hallows::

earth
air
water
fire

These elements represents objects:

earth represents "dish" or "coin" or "pendant" or "locket"
air represents the Excalibur --- Arthur's "sword". Or it can be any sword!
water represents the Holy Grail. or it can be called a "cup".
fire represents a "spear" or "baton" or a "magic wand".


Noticing that there are 4 hallows and there are 4 hocruxes excluding voldemorts soul leaving "4".

rememeber the ring(destroyed), and diary(destroyed)

So these Hallows are actually the remaining horcruxes and they are "deathly" or deadly whatever.

Remembring Godric Gryffindor had a "sword". Helga Hufflepuff had a "cup". Salazar Slytherin had a "locket". I don't know what Rowena Ravenclaw had, maybe a spear, wand or baton.

Those are the stuffs that Harry will encounter. So that means Harry or harry's scar isn't a hocrux. I actually wikipedia it. Suit yourselves if you'll believe me.

But I'm really believing what I just saw!!!!
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PostPosted: July 16, 2007 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harry is not a horcrux. Voldemort simply just unfourtanatlly add some of his powers to Harry. Besides the prohopecy says one must die by the hand of the other and Voldemort would try to destroy his horcrux would he?
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PostPosted: July 16, 2007 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am 100% that Harry is the last one. Why else did Voldemort leave him safe last year? He IS. The only way to destroy Voldemort is for Harry to kill himself.
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PostPosted: July 17, 2007 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the horcruxes my guess

1. diary
2. ring
3. the real locket (not fake one from book 6)
4. hufflepuff's cup
5. ravenclaw's tiara
6. piece in voldermort
7. harry

harry does not need to die to kill voldermort! all he needs to do is create a horcrux of himself when he kils voldermort because you need to kill somone to make a horcrux. the objects of the horcruxes are not destroyed just the soul in it, so harrry will remain alive if he makes a horcrux of himself
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PostPosted: July 17, 2007 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i agree harry is the last horcrux but it will be nangini as one not anything from Ravenclaw. Harry won't kill himself though because Wormtail will come in here. He owes Harry a life dept so with himself being by Voldemort's side all this time, he must of heard something, so he will probably tell Harry that there is a way to destroy the horcrux without destroying himself
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PostPosted: July 19, 2007 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don`t think he`s a horcrux,for a while i did,but now im not sure.


I suppose after Vold tried to kill harry,what,like 5 times or something?,Vold may think harry would make a good horcrux coz he seems to avoid death no matter what.

But how and when did he make him one?Wouldnt harry have felt it?I mean,in the 5th one,when he tried to use the avada kedavra on harry,he didnt get to do anything coz dumbledore stepped in,and he wasnt in the 6th one apart from the memories of Dumbledore.


And seeing as he knows that one of them has to kill the other,would he place himself into someone he knws he as to kill to become immortal?



Buuut when he temporarily possesed harry in the 5th book near the end,he could have done something then?


Dunnoooo...
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theprophet
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PostPosted: July 19, 2007 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nagini won't be a horcrux. dumbledore suspected it, but he was wrong. after all they found a fake horcrux, why should nagini be a realone. plus horcruxes
tend to be made with murder. after all who was murdered with nagini? but harry could be horcru because his parents were murdered. i think you need to hold an object and then murder someone to make a horcrux.
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