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Posts: 2523 · Posted: January 10, 2007 4:24 pm Post subject: Harry the Horcrux?

Is it possible that Harry is the missing Horcrux? In book 5, we learned that Voldemort attempted to kill Harry because of a prophecy that claimed he could defeat him. But is this really what happened? Maybe Voldemort didn't try to kill Harry at all. Maybe he turned Harry into his final Horcrux. We also discovered in OotP that Harry was being "possessed" by Voldy. But maybe this possession wasn't in his mind. Maybe Harry has part of Voldemort's soul inside him. And as soon as he figues that out, it'll be OMGWTF - I'm dying?
Just a thought.

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I am iffy on Harry being one. Voldy has wanted to kill Harry numerous times and Voldy is strongest when his horcruxes are all intact. I am sure that he can tell when some of them have been ruined. So I certainly think Voldy knows about the diary. I really do believe Nagini, is the last one.

Posts: 657 · Posted: January 10, 2007 6:43 pm Post subject:

Will you people stop suggesting this? How did Voldemort make Harry a horcrux while trying to kill him? AND if part of Voldemort's soul was in Harry he'd try to take control of him, like he did with Ginny. There's no implication that Harry has part of Voldemort's soul inside him.

Bottem line: Harry...isn't...a horcrux...PERIOD!
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I agree with you. I certainly believe tat Harry has part of Voldy inside him, but it has nothing to do with the horcruxes.

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I am going with Nagnini

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Posts: 2523 · Posted: January 12, 2007 12:53 pm Post subject:

And do u know what a horcrux spell looks like? Maybe it's green too. Why is this so impossible? Maybe Voldemort saw something else in Harry. He wanted a safe place to put his last Horcrux and he and Harry are so alike so he figured why not?

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Posts: 2523 · Posted: January 12, 2007 3:38 pm Post subject:

We don't know that Ravenclaw has something. Harry says "Something of Gryffindor's or Ravenclaw's. My bet's on the sword.

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I agree, that it is the sword.

Posts: 2523 · Posted: January 12, 2007 4:21 pm Post subject:

Thank you.

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It has to be, I just can't see it being anything else. So I guess the question is, is the real sword at Hogwarts or somewhere else?

Posts: 2523 · Posted: January 12, 2007 6:10 pm Post subject:

What do u mean. It's in DD's office. Or MG's office now.

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Yeah, the sword that is in Minerva's office. I guess it would have to be the real thing, because if you remember, in Book 2, Dumbledore said something like "Only a true Gryffindor could pull that out a hat", in referrence to killing the snake.

Posts: 2523 · Posted: January 12, 2007 9:09 pm Post subject:

Yeah I remember. It has to be the real sword.

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A horcrux requires that you commit a murder, and by all accounts it must be an elaborate spell, one that is very purposeful and not very easily disquised. Does anyone know the spell?

PS. Your idea that harry is a horcrux is totallyabsurd!
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the prophecy said that one must die to kill the other one?if harry is a horcrux that means that he is a part of voldy's soul, but voldy want to survive why would voldemort kill his own part of soul?that means the end of him right?
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One thing that every keeps saying is Harry can't be a horcrux because Voldemort tried to kill him. I pose a few questions.

Q. What does it take to make a horcrux?
A. We know you have to pretty much kill someone to split your soul off. The question is do you kill someone then catch the soul part that is split. Or do you have to cast a certain spell to split the soul. These are the unknowns that make the posters theory plausible. What is commonly done in other universes (NOT SAYING IT IS TRUE HERE.) You prepare an item to accept the soul. You release the soul. You then trap the soul. Voldemort comes to the house with said item that is suppose to be horcrux. Killing Harry would have been the second part. The third would be trapping the soul that would have been split from Voldemort by killing Harry.

Q. Would it be in Voldemort's character to make a horcrux by killing the one person that was suppose to be able to defeat him?
A. Yes

Q. If Harry became a horcrux would it have been intentional?
A. No... If it happened it was accidental.

Q. Can you reclaim a piece of your soul after you split it off?
A. Unknown we have to ask J.K. if that is possible.

This theory has been bantered a lot and a few have given good comments over the past few years. I am on the side of Harry being a Horcrux. Not because it is implausible but because it might be true.

First thing you hear what of the prophecy... It says he will defeat him. Break it down into smaller parts and not as a whole. It would support the posters assumption.

Second someone said Harry can't be a Horcrux because Voldemort would have possesed him like he did Ginny. Remember what happened in the ministry book 5. Voldemort battle with DD.
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I think it is entirely possible that Harry is a Horcrux. DD says in HBP that LV can't necessarily tell when a horcrux is destroyed because each horcrux is autonomous part of his soul. I think the reason we see LV trying to kill Harry in the first 5 books is because it isn't until OotP when LV got into Harry's mind that he realized that he had inadvertantly made Harry a horcrux the night he killed Harry's parents. This would explain why the DE's were ordered not to touch Harry in HBP. IMO it is entirely plausible that LV made Harry a Horcrux the night he murdered Harry's parents. The avada kedavra may not have been the only thing that backfired, and who's to say whether part of LV's sould wasn't placed in Harry along with some of his powers and ablilities. As to the suggestion that Gryffindor's sword is a horcrux I find this unlikely simply because LV would have had to have made it a horcrux practically under DD's nose, and I find it hard to believe that DD wouldn't notice a powerful piece of dark magic such as making a horcrux performed right in front of him.

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I believe Harry is a horcrux. It explains everything related to his scar. I don't see the point of Harry having the scar if it's not going to play some sort of role in the end. Voldemort and Harry have somekind of connection with one another that has not been fully explained yet. Why would Avada Kedevra leave a scar on his head for? It rebounded off Harry, supposedly, and hit Voldemort. But why would it leave a scar on his head? This is not explained either.

I don't think Voldemort was fully aware of Harry being a mistake horcrux, UNTIL the end of OOTP. HBP is the first book where he isnt trying to kill Harry. Snape tells the death eaters who are fleeing Hogwarts that Harry belongs to the Dark Lord. Does that mean Snape (assuming he is good) just said that to help Harry? Does it mean that Voldemort now realizes what Harry could possibly be (a horcrux)? Does it mean Voldemort wants to kill Harry himself?

The latter has some flaws in it however. If he wanted to kill Harry himself, his younger self wouldnt have wanted the Basalisk (sp?) to kill him in Chamber of Secrets. Or when he possessed Harry in OOTP, I dont think he would have told DD to kill the boy if he (Voldemort) really wanted to kill Harry. Now, he knew DD woudlnt kill Harry to kill him, but it was still an aggressive remark.
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