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PostPosted: January 13, 2008 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You seem to forget Hermione was actually wrong this time. She kept saying the Hollows weren't real when they were. I do agree that it is kind of silly they never get cought and they get lucky a lot but you have to remember it was built of a children's book. Could you really expect more then that ?


Dumbledore told hermoine to convince harry not to go into the deathly hallows because he didnt want harry to convince himself to be invicible.

Anyway, i thought the very last line of the book was there worst...
she tied it up soo quickly and didnt give us any answers
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PostPosted: January 15, 2008 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay. *prepares hands*
Reality is fine, Critic, yeah. But tell me how many times do you see a man in teal robes popping out of nowhere and shutting the lights down with a lighter in reality? How many times do you cast green beams from a piece of wood in reality? How many times do you have chitchats with snakes in reality? Phail.

Rowling's book is BASED in non-reality. Harry is a hero that is indeed based on luck mostly, but his ability to take advantage of his luck, which is a plus and not a con. Do house elves appear often in your basement? Wink I personally don't like Harry in the books. I find him kinda overpowered. The superhero firing pyroblasts out of a piece of wood and crying over dead bodies... meh. I prefer the more realistic characters, like Bellatrix Lestrange or Moody. Phail.

Being a villain does not mean you are engulfed in evil. As Dumbledore says, the Death Eaters are a mix of weak seeking protection, of ambitious seeking a share of power and of tramps that gathered over a leader. Voldemort is the main brain of the whole system. I personally don't find him evil, I just find him short-minded, which can be considered evil from the point he sees it. Phail.

Bellatrix is a totally not evil character, she's actually a victim of the whole story since she falls for the evil character of the book, and serves him blindly. She has no hunger for blood or wish to kill, all she does, as Rowling says, is to make Voldemort happy.

Moody is the standard type of bad-cop. Tough and realistic, not much talking and more of the action guy. He is out of the love game since he is not interested in such, simply.

Now as how would Harry be clever to not take the eye from Umbridge's office... I am afraid this is braveness and not stupidity. Harry as Dumbledore says, at the King's Cross, is a person who is oftenly pushed out of his mind and controlled by his heart. "I counted on miss Granger to calm you" thing. His act to take the eye was the act someone would do when in war. Phail.

Take into account that Harry is already in mortal danger and that according to Dumbledore at King's Cross again, he has become used to the idea of death. Your mind might work a bit different, but his mind is a bit close and thinking more of... knightly stuff-wise. Phail.

As for how much the necklace is a LOTR copy... I don't find LOTR all this good as a book series. It is just to thickly written, which does not make it complex or interesting but merely makes you struggle to finish it, and I am not interested in reading such books, so I do not know. The LOTR movies = phail.

Fred, Lupin and Tonks do get a funeral, but it's easily meant to happen so, and putting it would be a fatal loss of time and interest, since after Voldemort's defeat, the people are delighted to read the end of the book without more pain, or Harry's super-amazing phrase "I've been through enough trouble in my life" would go boom-boom.

Ron becomes more of a jerk day by the day indeed. See it realistically. Your best mate seems to be in close-stuff with the woman you love. If you pass around whistling indifferently, then phail. Ron's return was to emphasise the meaning of the gift in Dumbledore's will more than bring news from the outer world, which could be heard easily otherwise.

Snape's immaturity is not necessarily bad. You know, there are immature people amongst reality too, heh. It is more of an act like Ron, to who I believe he looks like a lot, although he's more of the edge type. All he damn wants is Lily. And love makes us immature many times, so phail.

Deathly Hallows was all in all a well-written book to me. You do not need to have the classical brainless killers in a book to make it good. Nor to have all-clever-thinking people that always are unfortunate. Most of the characters are really well-written, since everyone is meant to have a personality. (Apart perhaps from some Death Eaters, but this is possibly just because they aren't referred to a lot.)

Phail.
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PostPosted: July 8, 2008 6:37 am    Post subject: Re: The Horribly Written Novel *Spoiler Alert* Reply with quote

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He didn't turn out good. He only pledged his loyalty to Dumbledore because he was Greedy. He wanted the girl and nothing more. All of the actions he took was his love for Lilly. I am sure if she would have never entered Hogwarts, he would have no problem remaining as a death eater. Him saving Harry dosen't make him a hero. He was still a jerk and held a school boy grudge against Lupin and Sirius through most of the book. Unlike James, he never grew up.


I think you have missed the point here and therefore most of the series. Snape was never greedy, if he was he wouldnt have loved Lily, like Voldy, he would have been devoid of love. Lily was dead remember? he didnt HAVe anything to gain by helping dumbledore but had everything to lose including his life which he did. That is the ULTIMATE sacrifice, giving one's life for someone who is not even there

If lily was nott here Snape might have been a death eater but thats like saying if his parent's had not died, Harry might have grown up to be selfish like Dudley (Of course James and Lily were too sensible for that but hey my conjecture is as good as yours)

Its very easy to foprget the past and grow up when you are on teh victors side. james childhood was a happy one. Snape's was not. I have known real men who have been bitter because of their past. unless you face the same, its difficult to understand why

the series is all about retribution and not judging people. That Harry considers Snapoe the bravest man he knew and a hero hints as to how Rowling wants us to see Snape. Even Dumbledore hinted that Snape should have been in Slytherin (Someitmes i think, we sort too soon)

Lastly, never ever underestimate the power of love. (The story of the whole book). Snape's love for Lily was so great that it transended all the years and he paid the ultimate sacrifice for it.
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PostPosted: July 8, 2008 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand you critics. If we were discussing a fictional story then you could complain about why the author didn't do such-and-such with the characters and so forth, but this is a real story!

As everyone knows, JKR interviewed Harry Potter himself and wrote his life story, so how on earth can you complain that it's not realistic? That's what happened, and that's that! All complaints should be owled to Harry Potter, and should not be directed at JKR.
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PostPosted: July 29, 2008 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is site that is committed for Harry's fans.From what you say, it doesn't seem to me that you are a Harry Potter fan.Everyone who thinks Harry is an idiot should ask themselves why are logged on to this website! Confused
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PostPosted: July 29, 2008 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kwidditch wrote:
I don't understand you critics. If we were discussing a fictional story then you could complain about why the author didn't do such-and-such with the characters and so forth, but this is a real story!

As everyone knows, JKR interviewed Harry Potter himself and wrote his life story, so how on earth can you complain that it's not realistic? That's what happened, and that's that! All complaints should be owled to Harry Potter, and should not be directed at JKR.


Oh, erm, hate to break it to ya kid, but Harry Potter is fictional. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: July 30, 2008 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Critic, I don't know how you can say that Neville has no magical talent. LOOK AT HIM. Did you even read the seventh book? I would say he has great magical talent. After book five his magic " took off "
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PostPosted: July 30, 2008 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's hilarious that you all are continuing even after he stopped replying.

All I go to say is that different people have different opinions. You can like it or love it or whatever. If you don't like it don't complain and don't read it. Some of us actually do appreciate Mrs. Rowling's writing and enjoyed the last book very much. Good day to you sir.
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PostPosted: July 30, 2008 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HPFan_atic wrote:
kwidditch wrote:
I don't understand you critics. If we were discussing a fictional story then you could complain about why the author didn't do such-and-such with the characters and so forth, but this is a real story!

As everyone knows, JKR interviewed Harry Potter himself and wrote his life story, so how on earth can you complain that it's not realistic? That's what happened, and that's that! All complaints should be owled to Harry Potter, and should not be directed at JKR.


Oh, erm, hate to break it to ya kid, but Harry Potter is fictional. Rolling Eyes


No way. Really?! You're joking.
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PostPosted: July 30, 2008 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kwidditch wrote:
HPFan_atic wrote:
kwidditch wrote:
I don't understand you critics. If we were discussing a fictional story then you could complain about why the author didn't do such-and-such with the characters and so forth, but this is a real story!

As everyone knows, JKR interviewed Harry Potter himself and wrote his life story, so how on earth can you complain that it's not realistic? That's what happened, and that's that! All complaints should be owled to Harry Potter, and should not be directed at JKR.


Oh, erm, hate to break it to ya kid, but Harry Potter is fictional. Rolling Eyes


No way. Really?! You're joking.


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PostPosted: July 31, 2008 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HPFan_atic wrote:
kwidditch wrote:
I don't understand you critics. If we were discussing a fictional story then you could complain about why the author didn't do such-and-such with the characters and so forth, but this is a real story!

As everyone knows, JKR interviewed Harry Potter himself and wrote his life story, so how on earth can you complain that it's not realistic? That's what happened, and that's that! All complaints should be owled to Harry Potter, and should not be directed at JKR.


Oh, erm, hate to break it to ya kid, but Harry Potter is fictional. Rolling Eyes

*Sigh*. Sarcasm is underrated.
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PostPosted: August 18, 2008 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Harry Poter stinks then why do about 85% know about harry potter and JKR? And I've never heard of any of your books, critic, and I'm trying to write a book myself and would be happy to take tips off anyone aslong as the reader is happy, I'd be happy...


So don't go giving Harry Potter jip, or I'll jip your books on your books forum because they're probably not that good either!
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PostPosted: August 20, 2008 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The book itself was great. The Epilogue...not so much. Confused
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PostPosted: August 20, 2008 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally thought the 7th book was a failure compared to the other ones. It wasn't completly terrible, but should have been better since it was the last book Smile
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PostPosted: August 20, 2008 12:41 pm    Post subject: Re: The Horribly Written Novel *Spoiler Alert* Reply with quote

Potter10 wrote:
ThE_DaRk_MaRk wrote:

He didn't turn out good. He only pledged his loyalty to Dumbledore because he was Greedy. He wanted the girl and nothing more. All of the actions he took was his love for Lilly. I am sure if she would have never entered Hogwarts, he would have no problem remaining as a death eater. Him saving Harry dosen't make him a hero. He was still a jerk and held a school boy grudge against Lupin and Sirius through most of the book. Unlike James, he never grew up.


I think you have missed the point here and therefore most of the series. Snape was never greedy, if he was he wouldnt have loved Lily, like Voldy, he would have been devoid of love. Lily was dead remember? he didnt HAVe anything to gain by helping dumbledore but had everything to lose including his life which he did. That is the ULTIMATE sacrifice, giving one's life for someone who is not even there

If lily was nott here Snape might have been a death eater but thats like saying if his parent's had not died, Harry might have grown up to be selfish like Dudley (Of course James and Lily were too sensible for that but hey my conjecture is as good as yours)

Its very easy to foprget the past and grow up when you are on teh victors side. james childhood was a happy one. Snape's was not. I have known real men who have been bitter because of their past. unless you face the same, its difficult to understand why

the series is all about retribution and not judging people. That Harry considers Snapoe the bravest man he knew and a hero hints as to how Rowling wants us to see Snape. Even Dumbledore hinted that Snape should have been in Slytherin (Someitmes i think, we sort too soon)

Lastly, never ever underestimate the power of love. (The story of the whole book). Snape's love for Lily was so great that it transended all the years and he paid the ultimate sacrifice for it.


Snape was never greedy? Why is it he can give the Potters straight to voldemort and ask him to only spare Lily's life? To take a family away from Lily just so he could be with her sounds a bit greedy to me. If Voldermort would have never threatened Lily's life Snape would have never made the decision to work for Dumbledore.
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PostPosted: August 21, 2008 2:24 pm    Post subject: Re: The Horribly Written Novel *Spoiler Alert* Reply with quote

ThE_DaRk_MaRk wrote:
Potter10 wrote:
ThE_DaRk_MaRk wrote:

He didn't turn out good. He only pledged his loyalty to Dumbledore because he was Greedy. He wanted the girl and nothing more. All of the actions he took was his love for Lilly. I am sure if she would have never entered Hogwarts, he would have no problem remaining as a death eater. Him saving Harry dosen't make him a hero. He was still a jerk and held a school boy grudge against Lupin and Sirius through most of the book. Unlike James, he never grew up.


I think you have missed the point here and therefore most of the series. Snape was never greedy, if he was he wouldnt have loved Lily, like Voldy, he would have been devoid of love. Lily was dead remember? he didnt HAVe anything to gain by helping dumbledore but had everything to lose including his life which he did. That is the ULTIMATE sacrifice, giving one's life for someone who is not even there

If lily was nott here Snape might have been a death eater but thats like saying if his parent's had not died, Harry might have grown up to be selfish like Dudley (Of course James and Lily were too sensible for that but hey my conjecture is as good as yours)

Its very easy to foprget the past and grow up when you are on teh victors side. james childhood was a happy one. Snape's was not. I have known real men who have been bitter because of their past. unless you face the same, its difficult to understand why

the series is all about retribution and not judging people. That Harry considers Snapoe the bravest man he knew and a hero hints as to how Rowling wants us to see Snape. Even Dumbledore hinted that Snape should have been in Slytherin (Someitmes i think, we sort too soon)

Lastly, never ever underestimate the power of love. (The story of the whole book). Snape's love for Lily was so great that it transended all the years and he paid the ultimate sacrifice for it.


Snape was never greedy? Why is it he can give the Potters straight to voldemort and ask him to only spare Lily's life? To take a family away from Lily just so he could be with her sounds a bit greedy to me. If Voldermort would have never threatened Lily's life Snape would have never made the decision to work for Dumbledore.


Exactly!
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PostPosted: August 22, 2008 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HARRY POTTER FRICKIN' RULES LOL!!!
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PostPosted: August 22, 2008 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

+ How am I still a muggle...

I should be in first-year?
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PostPosted: August 22, 2008 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedclark wrote:
+ How am I still a muggle...

I should be in first-year?


Maybe this'll help:
http://www.potterforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=11813
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PostPosted: August 26, 2008 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with you somewhat on the writing and effort, but you seem not to realizes that Harry Potter's character is very irrational and acts upon the heat of the moment. He rarely thinks through anything.
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PostPosted: September 2, 2008 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All I have to say is: I like Snape:)

Hehe... anyway... yeah, so what if you didnt like it, some people do... I do, even though I don't like my favourite characters dying and stuff... and yes Harry Potter is an idiot, I agree, I don't like him. I don't know why... I just don't lol... he annoyed me in book 5, but he is a kid so y'know.

Don't just come on here to bash the books. Smile

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PostPosted: September 16, 2008 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love how some people analyze & pick out every detail they find wrong about a fictional story. Laughing
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