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jdezer
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PostPosted: August 30, 2005 9:28 pm    Post subject: Sirius Black Reply with quote

During Blacks last battle he fell through the Dais that Harry heard voices in????? Is Black really dead??????? Or is it a dorway, like the closet? A mystery...... Smile
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Sonita888
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PostPosted: September 3, 2005 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Na, he is not, I`m sure he will appear to help Harry against Voldemort...
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moonfisher
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PostPosted: September 4, 2005 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he comes back in any way, it will probably be through that mirror he gave Harry.
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Hermione
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PostPosted: September 4, 2005 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe. Hopefully he will come back. Im a little bit skeptic...
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Phoenix
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PostPosted: September 4, 2005 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also believe in the mirror theory Very Happy
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jdezer
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PostPosted: September 5, 2005 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well.... the only thing with the mirror is at the end of the book Harry finnally remembered the mirror went up stairs and tried to call Serious in it..... In his frustration he thre the mirror back in the locker and it broke......
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willow8
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PostPosted: September 5, 2005 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yes of course he did, I really dont think Sirius will come back in any way although id like him to Sad
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Hermione
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PostPosted: September 5, 2005 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I second that...
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PostPosted: September 7, 2005 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I totally agree.
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Sonita888
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PostPosted: September 7, 2005 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noooooooo, he canīt be dead, I mean, he is the only family left to Harry... it is not fear... I seriously think he should come back, as a person... or may be if Harry dies in the final fight against Voldermot (there are only 7 books...) at least he should meet his parents, Sirius, Dumbledore... in Heaven of wizards, or something like that... he is only 16 and he has been through so much pain... come on, give him some rest, for Godīs sake!
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PostPosted: September 7, 2005 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to feel like you do, that Harry had suffered enough but it seems JK needed him to go through all these tragedies to become a stronger person.
Im beginning to think that perhaps Harry will die but it will definatley spoil the series for me if he does. Crying or Very sad
I used to think Sirius may come back, mainly because Luna says something along the lines of "they cant be dead i can hear them talking" when they are near the veil in the department of mysteries. But I now think that when JK kills someone off, she makes sure they stay dead.
Sad but true...
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Sonita888
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PostPosted: September 7, 2005 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, she can't be such a bitch (I'm not tryinto offend anyone, JK Rowling either....) yes, it is true that now that Dumbledore is dead Harry realizes that all the poeple that had once stand before Voldemort are dead and that crap, but still... it is too much for a child, no one can handle all that, I mean, in the end it is that that will bring him down...
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willow8
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PostPosted: September 7, 2005 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really hope your right, maybe there will be a big twist and she may bring one person back. But will is be Sirius or Dumbledore...
Its so depressing all these people dropping like flies. At the end of HPB all i could think was who will help Harry now?? Especially as its been said throughout the series that "as long as we have Dumbledore we are saved". It just feels hopeless now, if you know what i mean....
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Hermione
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PostPosted: September 7, 2005 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it is more possible to bring Dumbledore back( I mean there are still many mysteries regarding his death) As for their deaths well I agree that they are helping shape Harry, it is the only way for him to become what he needs to become in order to defeat Voldie.Remember that when you fall you get up stronger than ever.

Harry will not die. If he does well poor JK. Its gonna be an inquisition. We'll begin burning all of the books, riots will ensue. In other words the Harry Potter world will fall apart. Its gonna be a nightmare. Unless he dies sacrificing for one of his friends but it is still unfair to us readers. HP is an epic about Harry and the heros never die and if they do it is after they have achieved their goal(see beowulf)

Now everyone in the wizarding world will say "as long as we have Harry we are saved" It is in his hands and only in his to save the wizarding world from evil Voldie.( Maybe thats what she is trying to tell us with all the unfair deaths. Stop depending in other people, Harry must stand up and fulfill his destiny.
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Sonita888
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PostPosted: September 7, 2005 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Remember that when you fall you get up stronger than ever. " Some people don't get up...
Anyhow, i mean, she already killed his parents when he was 1, he, which is find extremly wired, has no family like aunts and unkles and grandparent appart from the Dursley's, who hate him. The only thing that he had left was Sirius, he died too, then, the last, VEY last thing he had like a parent was Dumbledore, and he is dead too...
I mean, COME ON, that is too much... no one can handle that much, if people keep dying, I repeat, thats what is going to bring him down...
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PostPosted: September 9, 2005 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps. I dont think we have to worry about Harry dying if he does well poor JK will too ( well everyone will hate her forever and ever). What author in ther right mind would kill the main character in a epic?She would have to be insane to do that. Harry is a part of us! she cannot have a tragic ending! Its a children's book! Think of the children.... Sad
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PostPosted: September 9, 2005 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But if he does die, then she would, believe me, sell even more books... besides, how come if not that she is publishing only 7 books?? I mean, she could write endless books about Harry's life, I am sure aveyone would read them... She also said that she had the ending before she worte the first one, she also had to write it down so she would keep it that way and not change it... why could that be?
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PostPosted: September 9, 2005 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well i actually read that she had the last chapter written but that she could change it. She mentioned the last word was "Scar" but that it could change. I also read that she intended to do somthing like a dictionary but about the wizarding world. That shes not writing any more books about HP doesnt mean he'll die every story has to end eventually and i dont think it should be dragged on and on. Its like would you rather leave with all the glory or when it faded time ago?. All things must come to an end(see LOTR) but it doesnt mean a tragic ending.
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Sonita888
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PostPosted: September 9, 2005 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might be right, but I can tell you that an much more unexpectd eding would be Harry dying, I mean, it would be much more interesting...
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Hermione
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PostPosted: September 9, 2005 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree but remember the fan's emotional investment in the books. I mean dont you think its gonna make us feel like we wasted our time reading when all Harry did was for nothing? how can the world exist with Voldermort in power? I think that possible someone could die( yet again) but not Harry.
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Sonita888
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PostPosted: September 9, 2005 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I mean, if Voldemort take over the wizard world, then we could all spectulate from here to the end of time what would happen... still, I think it would be an excellent ending...
I mean, that would be more reallistic, not all heroes live...
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willow8
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PostPosted: September 10, 2005 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it would be absolute crap!! I know not all heroes live but in Harrys case I think it would spoil the whole series. Harry is the epitome of hope and survival. If JK kills him off it would wipe out all the messages shes tried to put across since the first book.
Im not saying its definatley going to happen but I think JK would be wrong if she did.
Hermiones right, the fans would not be happy if Harry died...Dont do it JK Mad Evil or Very Mad Crying or Very sad Sad
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Hermione
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PostPosted: September 10, 2005 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont worry Willow,If she does do it we will organize a book burning:)
Its gonna be sad really all those pages wasted.
If JK kills Harry, she is giving herself a death sentence( at least in the literature world).
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PostPosted: September 11, 2005 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I think a lot of fans wouldn't be pleased
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PostPosted: September 15, 2005 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nu huh! It would be chaos if that came to happen. The end of the world as we know it. Sad
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