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i feel that jkr should have put whatever it is she wanted us to know in the original series
i do not like how it seems that she makes stuff up as shes asked. either write another book or leave it alone.
but thats just my opinion
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Someone should delete this forum...
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I cant believe that she would just up and say oh yeah hes gay. Im really disappointed. I am(maybe was) a huge HP fan but I was an even bigger JKR fan, but now I dont know. I hope she will take this back or say that that was a portion of what Rita Skeeter thought and put in her book about DD. Harry just didnt come across it during DH.
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yeah....I mean, it would have looked pretty bad if she had crammed all this in in the prologue, but it's enough with the surprises....
And why on earth should this forum be closed down?!
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The forum is not being closed and it will not be over something as insignificant as this
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JKR is ruining the reputation of Harry Potter! it think
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It's as simple as this, JKR has said that most things she knows in her mind but that doesn't mean we have to know them in the books, it's just for her. And now that the books are over she can tell us the stuff not included, she told us 'cause people were asking, it helps us understand DD's relationship with Grindelwald better and it really wasn't something she could have casually put in the books, I mean look how people are reacting to it now. They're not surprises, they are revelations and with most people wanting the HP encyclopaedia I don't see why this little, barely important piece of information should 'cause such an uproar.
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it never really occured to me that dumbledore could be gay.
i mean, i knew he never really showed any interest in woman, but nor did he in men.
this was pretty shocking to me.
eitherway, whether dumbledore's gay or straight, he's still amazing.
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Its causing an uproar because it is completely senseless. There is no freakin reason why there should be a gay person in HP. Especially the greatest wizard ever. Rowling is trying to get more people who hate the books. She wants the uproar. She has stated many times that she loves that her books are on banned book lists and shes trying to get on a few more. Instead of respecting her fans, shes more worried about going against the grain so much that she has just as many, if not more, people who hate her as there are who like her. I just wish this would go away or she would come back and reveal some great reason why she said it(a reason that explains DD is really not gay).
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I didn't expect that, but now that I'm thinking of it, it makes sense... |
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| There is no freakin reason why there should be a gay person in HP. |
What the hell are you on about? There's as much reason to have gay people as there is to have straight people in the book. Maybe JKR just isn't as narrow minded as some people. Think about it, if Grindelwald was a witch and instead of there being an announcement that DD was in love with him it was that he's in love with her, would there be an issue? The problem should be based solely on the hidden love rather than DD's sexuality. I'm so sick of prudes.
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It has nothing to do with being a prude, teacakes. Homosexuality is wrong, yeah I said it. Gays are lost and confused people. I dont always have a big problem with gays in stories, or movies b/c its part of our world. I do have a problem with gay relationships. I also have a problem with DD being gay, because lets not forget HP is a kids story to begin with. There was no point making DD gay. He was someone who didnt need a love interest. He was extremely wise and wrapped up in his love for being there for the students of Hogwarts. His love for teaching magic was all the love he needed until JK decided to be stupid and say hes gay. This goes farther than some garden variety character being gay. We're talkin about DD. The greatest wizard ever(in the HP world). The best headmaster ever at Hogwarts. The center of the fictional wizarding world. Now shes saying hes gay. Whats next? is George gonna be gay now? The fact of the matter is, Gay is wrong. Not wrong as in morally(although it is) but wrong as in right and wrong. There is a right and wrong way to do things. Im really disappointed in JKR.
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You know I agree that JKR should not just keep making things up now as she goes along...if it wasn't reveleaved in the book series then it should not be said later.....HOWEVER....for those of you narrow minded bigoted self righteous dumb ass people who only have an issue with this because a HP character was gay then I'm soooooo glad she did it because its for people like you she makes sure to reveal this kind of info....she has always made a commentary in her books about tolerance and the arrogant nature of some people think they are better than others....so yeah HP charcters are humans and there was bound to be even more than one gay character in there so deal with it!......If you decide to not be a HP fan anymore because someone was revealed as gay so freakin what...there are way more fans where you came from.....losing one or how many prejudicial fans won't hurt the series one bit.....
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Well, he had it better then his brother.... At least DD wasn't doing anything with Goats. 0.o
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| There is no freakin reason why there should be a gay person in HP. |
What the hell are you on about? There's as much reason to have gay people as there is to have straight people in the book. Maybe JKR just isn't as narrow minded as some people. Think about it, if Grindelwald was a witch and instead of there being an announcement that DD was in love with him it was that he's in love with her, would there be an issue? The problem should be based solely on the hidden love rather than DD's sexuality. I'm so sick of prudes. |
i agree with you 100%
love is love. If anyone is narrow minded it's the people who think gay people are lost. They aren't lost, they know what they want.
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I don't think it's a big deal at all. The actor that plays DD is gay, anddd DD is gay. I think it's cute. I'm actually pretty impressed with JKR for having the balls to do that. Good for her. There is absolutely nothing wrong with homosexuality, IMO. Having a prominent gay character in a huge book series will be good for the world. Rock on, DD and JKR.
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Harry: "My, that's a big wand Professor Dumbledore!"
Prof. Dumbledore: "Harry, do you like movies about gladiators?"
Harry: "Well, I'm not sure I wanna get 'down under' with Russell Crowe."
Prof. Dumbledore: "Harry, you ever see a grown man naked?"
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Dumbledore (looking at tickets): "Ahhhh, the Oscar Wilde memorial theatre. I know it well."
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i totally did not see this coming. all the while i thought he was just simply uninterested in girls... oh well... 
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Teacakes, no, haven't read them all just yet. still workin through them, it will take a while, but I am enjoying them.
I dont think DD being gay belongs in HP, I think if your gonna make a character gay, dont do it to a character sooo many young people look up to. I confuses some of them. At least not the way she did it.
Well, IMHO, DD is not gay. it wasnt covered in the books, so it isnt so.
I also believe that boba fett died in return of the jedi, even though later lucas said he lived and climbed out of the sarlac pit, the last we saw him he went down screaming like a lil girl, so, if something doesnt happen on screen or in a book, doesnt mean it can happen, but doesnt mean it does happen imho. |
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Teacakes, no, haven't read them all just yet. still workin through them, it will take a while, but I am enjoying them.
I dont think DD being gay belongs in HP, I think if your gonna make a character gay, dont do it to a character sooo many young people look up to. I confuses some of them. At least not the way she did it.
Well, IMHO, DD is not gay. it wasnt covered in the books, so it isnt so.
I also believe that boba fett died in return of the jedi, even though later lucas said he lived and climbed out of the sarlac pit, the last we saw him he went down screaming like a lil girl, so, if something doesnt happen on screen or in a book, doesnt mean it can happen, but doesnt mean it does happen imho. |
How is it confusing for kids? What, do you think she is trying to convert people to become gay? I think it's a good thing, it can show kids not to be afraid to be yourselves, whether you fall under society's vision of "normal" or not.
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^ yes. there is nothing wrong with being gay except our perception that homosexuality is "bad". perhaps that is a start. teach kids to not be so homophobic and be tolerant of other people, accept that good people can have different sexualities.
and besides, that dumbledore is gay didnt come out in the book; it just came out in an interview.
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| How is it confusing for kids? What, do you think she is trying to convert people to become gay? I think it's a good thing, it can show kids not to be afraid to be yourselves, whether you fall under society's vision of "normal" or not. |
Right on. :]
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I liked it, that really does make sense...although it's a sad story...poor Dumbledore...
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^ very good point, I just wish it was somewhere revealed in the books, not after words. Not the way it was done.
It is kinda sad, it has already started in this thread, the spoofs that will come up from DD and Harry in the future that is.
Also, why in the world wuold an Author of a childrens book be proud to have it on banned lists, I believe she is proud of it, all the more reason I have 0 respect for jkr.
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Maybe she just decided he was gay, and didn't know while she was writing the books?
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