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lovell
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PostPosted: August 22, 2005 5:01 pm    Post subject: Does harry have to do a great act of love to succeed Reply with quote

i'm starting to think that maybe harry has t show V love inorder to succeed, not a sacrifise of love but show that he can be loved. The whole of B6 enphasised that V was unloved etc.
whats your views...





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t_moz
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PostPosted: August 22, 2005 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ginny and Harry??? but in taking some of harrys blodd didnt voldemort think that would save him from the Love power???

Confused i cant remember it all, will have to read them again!
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hengest
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PostPosted: August 22, 2005 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no i dont think he will its not that voldemorts unloved look at most of his deatheaters. its the fact that he doesnt want their love or doesnt think he needs it.
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PostPosted: August 22, 2005 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree!

Voldermort has the love of all of his deatheaters, but he doesnt need it, nor cares. Voldermort only knows hate and I dont think love can just defeat hate that easily. Voldie is pure evil, he doesnt deserve love plus he is not gonna accept it.

Evil Voldie! Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: August 23, 2005 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe that's the point. that he won't accept love. Even after he'd taken Harry's blood and was able to touch Harry, Voldie still couldn't possess him. The reason: Harry's ability to love drove him out. Its sorta like saying don't conquer with hate, but do it with love.
Which sounds sappy and everything, but still.
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lovell
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PostPosted: August 23, 2005 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hermione wrote:
I agree!

Voldermort has the love of all of his deatheaters, but he doesnt need it, nor cares. Voldermort only knows hate and I dont think love can just defeat hate that easily. Voldie is pure evil, he doesnt deserve love plus he is not gonna accept it.

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i dont think that the death eaters love voldermort, i think they serve him through fear as they believe he is more powerful than them. they only risk death for him because thats the only chance they will have of living. If they dont he will kill them anyway.

may i also add, that even when voldermort was in foster care he used magic to create fear in the other children, and he is using very dak magic to put fear into his followers

remeber aparently it was and act of love that saved harry in the first place, (i write apparently, because im not convinced he tried to kill harry - if harry is the last horcrox that is) to find clues in how to defeat somebody you offen have to return to the beginning. it was love that saved him in the beggining so why not now
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hengest
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PostPosted: August 23, 2005 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

all the deatheaters have had a chance of turning back. the only deatheaters ive seen scared of voldemort are malfoy and kakoraff
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Hermione
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PostPosted: August 23, 2005 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Hengest, but i also think they love him/admire in a way. Its kinda of a fascination. It happens so in history. Stalin was pure evil( the great purge killed more people than the nazi holocaust) but when he died the russians cried. They had seen his horrors yet they loved him and followed him. Its kinda like when you know you cant be that powerful but fall deeply in love/admiration with someone who shows those qualites...Another Example Hitler they didnt only follow him because they were afraid...they loved hitler and many of them gave their life for him...
Its just like Voldie and the deatheaters.

PS. sOrry for the history bla bla bla lol
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PostPosted: August 24, 2005 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stalin didn't just kill more than hitlet he blew him out of the water he killed wat 17 18 million more than hitler?
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PostPosted: August 24, 2005 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, The great purge lasted longer than the holocaust. I think it started in the 30's. The holocaust was 5.6 to 5.9 million while the entire Stalin regime killed 20,000,000–62,000,000 -thats Stalin's regime (1924-53), (not including WWII )

So thats pretty bad. So to answer your question i think it is like
more than its from anywere 20-millon to 57 million more than the Holocaust.
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PostPosted: August 24, 2005 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think Voldemort's followers love him, they fear him! They are greedy and want power. Voldemort represents power!
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PostPosted: August 25, 2005 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are willing to sacrifice their lives for him, They love power, thus they love the representation of Power and Evil=Voldermort. It is a deep admiration slash love. They are loyal to him, willing to do anything for him. I think it is a lot like the warrior society in the anglosaxon literature. They may be followers who want glory/power but they love their leader.

Fear is understandable at least in some of the characters but there are others whose admiration/love toward him is not justifiable by fear.
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PostPosted: September 7, 2005 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of the Death Eaters certainly do love him. Bellatrix does. She's very passionate about serving Voldemort. Some of them do fear him, but I think most of them joined because they admired him and looked up to him.
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PostPosted: September 7, 2005 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going back to the subject, what should then the acto of love Harry has to perform be?
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PostPosted: September 7, 2005 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No idea. Voldermort will not let Harry perform any act of love toward him. And why should Harry? I dont think loving him is in his mind right now.
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PostPosted: September 7, 2005 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am shure all little Voldie needs is a hug... Laughing
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PostPosted: September 9, 2005 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL. He sure needs one Razz but I think he will do a avada k on anyone that tries. *sighs* BAD Voldie.
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PostPosted: September 9, 2005 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You never know...
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PostPosted: September 15, 2005 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dun think Harry will be able to show love (or an act of love towards him) . Sad
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PostPosted: September 23, 2005 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But he has to! That's what DD said atleast!
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mothermaclean
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PostPosted: June 21, 2007 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i belive harry out of rage tries to save his friends and does the killing curse on LV to kill him at the same time making a horocrux which would be silly but hay if harry is a horocrux himself then all he would need to do is take LV part of the soul out of him and figure away to put it into something else destroying LV and the horocrux at the same time and i dont know people keep saying about the ministry of magic and the vail maybe chucking the newly made horocrux threw which would destroy it then the killing curse he used would of killed LV just a totally rediculas theorie tho. and a mouthful lol
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PostPosted: June 21, 2007 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oho!!!

harry will show voldie some love and sympathy? nice one.
i dont know exactly how that will happen since harry hates LV so much. and even if harry shows love, LV will still hate him.

but if its written in a nice, logical way, i would very very very much apporve of that.
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mothermaclean
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PostPosted: June 21, 2007 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

there will be no love for LV because he killed his parents plus more people its everything harry isnt
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PostPosted: June 21, 2007 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe, maybe not. id like it if it ended that way. love, forgiveness...
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PostPosted: June 21, 2007 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes but it doesnt make a pycopathic killer change because harry flickered his eye lashes lololol
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