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Posts: 20 · Joined: Aug 12, 2005 Posts: 20

hi! this is my first new topic. Smile

I think JKR has been building up to some kind of battle involving the different "races" in the wizarding world (Giants, House Elves, Wizards, Goblins.) There's all the references to tolerance, Hermione's SPEW crusade, Albus sending Hagrid out on the diplomatic mission to the Giants, the rather hypocritical statue of all the races in the Ministry...

And so I speculate that the horcruxes maaaybe will be found in different magical communities somehow? Maybe Harry has to negotiate with each of the different races and bring them together somehow in order to defeat Voldemort?

Anyone's thoughts on this scenario?? I think the different races are gonna play a role somehow...but what?

(What got me thinking about this was moonfisher's fanfic and his use of a house elf Harry didn't know helping Harry out. I recommend you read it!)

Posts: 3127 · Joined: Aug 18, 2005 Location: Tennessee Posts: 3127

Ohhh....Nice idea Very Happy

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Posts: 20 · Joined: Aug 12, 2005 Posts: 20

yeah -- a big showdown with everybody going in on it somehow, like in LOTR! that kind of battle would probably spill over into the Muggle world.

so Harry would have to figure out more about the Goblins -- who seem to keep mostly to themselves. then negotiate some kind of truce with the Giants, who are prone to violence. then maybe Hermione will come into the picture with SPEW, and figure out some way to work with the House Elves...and I'm sure there's more to the House Elves than meets the eye.

am i missing anybody?

Posts: 581 · Posted: August 19, 2005 8:06 pm Post subject:

I agree too! But its sounding a lot like LOTR so i think JK will probably make the wizarding world battle more interesting and original. But i think that all the races will play a big role in the last battle againsnt evi.

What about muggles?
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Posts: 20 · Joined: Aug 12, 2005 Posts: 20

yes, muggles will have to be in there somehow! and Squibs too, I was forgetting them!

Although I think it most likely that the wizarding world will do what it can to protect Muggles ... and shield themselves from Muggles!

Posts: 104 · Posted: August 20, 2005 8:40 am Post subject:

What a great idea. I think it's very likely you're right.
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Posts: 581 · Posted: August 20, 2005 2:40 pm Post subject:

I think the war will get out of hands and eventually a lot of weird (More weird than what happened in HP HBP)stuff will start happening in the muggle world. Poor Prime Minister hahaha:)
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Posts: 129 · Joined: Aug 3, 2005 Posts: 129

i never really thought about the other races till i read this

Posts: 20 · Joined: Aug 12, 2005 Posts: 20

can you imagine a house-elf rebellion? heehee! Also, it seemed like Grawp was more "civilized" at the end of HBP; consoling Hagrid at Albus' funeral...maybe that's a sign of good strides to be made between the giants and wizards?

Posts: 129 · Joined: Aug 3, 2005 Posts: 129

ya but not all giants will want to side with grawp and hagrid if they try to ally with them

Posts: 9 · Joined: Aug 16, 2006 Posts: 9

That would be friggin awesome with a lord of the rings feel to it!

It would be like all the different trees, elves and whatnot fighting together.

I think all the magical races may have something to do with HELPING harry, not really with finding the horcruxes alltogether

It would be awesome for the final battle with the inferi army and stuff. There should really be a ton of action in book 7, a ton.

P.S. J K Rowling should really read these forums, she might get a great idea for her new book.

Posts: 217 · Posted: August 16, 2006 10:21 pm Post subject:

Hmmmm.... i have never thought about that! I could definitely see that happening! I think the muggles would end up being involved. At least some of them....
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That would be freaky! Crying or Very sad

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Posts: 657 · Posted: August 31, 2006 3:01 pm Post subject:

You're forgeting that Voldemort is the biggest racist of them all. He would NEVER leave his precious horcruxes near a "filthy" house elf or centuar.
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Posts: 187 · Joined: Sep 3, 2005 Location: South America Posts: 187

I like the idea about the races having something to do... but I am not sure about the negotiating part... may be the different races will group in the two groups and they have to steal the horcruxes from the bad guys... I don't know...
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Posts: 38 · Joined: Sep 8, 2006 Location: The Unknowable Room Posts: 38

I don't know about all this...Harry can't even manage peace negotiations between his two best friends when they fight; what makes you think he could negotiate peace between the entirety of the Wizarding World and the Goblins or the Giants or the more abused House-Elves? Harry IS, however, good at making friends with people and beings who are outside the range of "normal" like Luna, Firenze, and Dobby. This is a gift I'm sure will benefit him in the seventh book.
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Posts: 187 · Joined: Sep 3, 2005 Location: South America Posts: 187

forlong is right... and you are forgetting that they are teenager... how many times have you fought over the most stupid thing?
Besides, this is war, and I don't think, or I would like to believe, that most good creatures in the magical world would like peace and they would put aside their differences and try to unite forces to destroy evil, blah, blah, blah... you know what I mean?
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Posts: 38 · Joined: Sep 8, 2006 Location: The Unknowable Room Posts: 38

I still disagree...I think when war is going on, people--magical or otherwise--seem to cling desperately to their petty differences. Look at what's been going on in OUR world for centuries now. People--adult people--fight about the dumbest things. And in the end, whose side they choose will depend on what they can get in return. I know it's not nice to think about the world in such terms, but it's true. At the very core, we're all selfish, aren't we? It's human nature--and probably goblin nature and giant nature too.
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Now I am depressed... Sad

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Posts: 38 · Joined: Sep 8, 2006 Location: The Unknowable Room Posts: 38

Sorry, I'm notoriously pessimistic. As nice as it would be for book seven to be closely concentrated on bringing the races together, I just don't think Harry's got it in him to be a peacemaker. He's similar to Ron in the aspect that he's a bit hot-headed. I don't see him as being patient enough to deal with cranky goblins who are out for their own purposes or violent giants who seem to have trouble just understanding that someone is actually on their side. Hermione would be better suited for a task of that nature, don't you think?
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Posts: 7 · Joined: Oct 29, 2006 Location: Calgary, AB, Canada Posts: 7

I for sure think that all the magical "races" or whatever you want to call them are involved somehow in a battle or the "war" idea, but I highly doubt it could relate back to the search for the Horcruxes, Voldemort thinks that everyone/thing that is not a "pureblood" is beneath him, he would use those oother creatcures for his "war" as cannon fodder and such, but he would never use them to watch over his "soul"
Just my thoughts on that character development. Anyone else?

Posts: 74 · Joined: Nov 20, 2006 Posts: 74

Centaurs, merpeople, werewolves (wasn't Lupin trying to convince them?), House-elves, and Goblins. Man, this will be some blowout! If that happens, this book is definately going out with a bang!

I think the house elves are all embarassed by Hermione and SPEW. All except Dobby, that is.
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